Sec. of State: Barack Obama

[oasis]

Think about it.

Obama would be widely respected, accepted, appreciated and effective on the international stage as our #1 ambassador.. This also would be a golden opportunity for him to work on his resume for 2016.

Hillary could break with tradition and announce his cabinet position soon after she becomes the nominee.

A good way for the party to soothe the hurt feelings and move forward to November.

[oviedodem]

HA HA,

[scheming daemons]

1. Sorry, Hillbots... you can't bargain from a position of weakness.... the nom's his to lose....

...and from the kindness of his heart, he might offer HER a position.

[oasis]

8. He's damaged goods, VP is lost to him now. (eom)

[scheming daemons]

11. Haha... if he's "damaged goods" she's "destroyed goods"......

He will be the nominee.


Deep down, you know it.

[scheming daemons]

21. She has 58% negative ratings... and 60% say she's untrustworthy.... who's damaged?

[Divine Discontent]

103. shh shhhhhh! stop pointing out the truth! that's not permitted - facts are of the devil, dontuno!

[kevinbgoode]

118. hahaha..and that's just the general population.

Right now I wouldn't be surprised if her negative ratings among DEMOCRATS isn't well over 50%.

[TahitiNut]

43. Newsflash: "You broke it, you bought it" hasn't applied to human beings for over 140 years.

The noxious presumption of entitlement seems to be a plague these days. :puke:

[democrattotheend]

102. You have got to be kidding me

Depending on how the rest of the contests go, it's possible that the superdelegates might determine that Obama is perceived as too inexperienced to win, and there might be a case for a joint ticket. But I think having an insurmountable lead in delegates has at the very least earned Obama a spot on the ticket no matter what.

[KamaAina]

108. Damaged goods? Care to expound on that, old buddy?

Can it be that you've been breathing the polluted mainland air a bit too long? :shrug:

[oasis]

122. Rev. Wrightgate, Bittergate, Weathermangate etc. etc. It's the perception.

BTW, how ya doin'?

"The day I left Hawaii I Kauai'd".I read that on a passing auto today.

[mkultra]

128. the perception of hillary is far worse.

Thats why she cant beat McCain in GE polls.

[KamaAina]

136. All these "-gates" are being ginned up by Team Hillary and her cheerleaders in the M$M

Weathermangate? Barack Obama is three years and a day older than I am. During the Weathermen's heyday, he would have been eight. "Mommy, can I go bomb a recruiting station with my friends? Pleeeeze?" Besides, many ex-'60s radicals have "gone straight". Jerry Rubin's a flippin' stockbroker, for Pete's sake.

Bittergate? Sen. Clinton has had some less than complimentary words for working-class voters as well, specifically Southern ones: "Screw 'em".

Rev. Wrightgate? Here's another money quote: "God has a way of standing before the nations with justice and it seems I can hear God saying to America "you are too arrogant, and if you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I will place it in the hands of a nation that doesn't even know my name."

Oh, wait, that wasn't Wright, it was Martin Luther King. My bad. :-)

So there you have it: it's the M$M that is marketing Obama as "damaged goods". The ABC farce debate the other night was (one hopes) the nadir of it all.

As to the bumper sticker, at least it wasn't Pun. No. 11,432,538 on "lei'd"!

[oasis]

144. When did MLK say "God damn America"? Oh, wait that was Rev. Wright.

Obama showed bad judgement in allying himself with a former Weatherman-would-be-cop-killer. You can make all the excuses you like about that one, but mainstream America is a little less forgiving.

[KamaAina]

148. Mainstream America is a little less forgiving?

The logical consequence of that would be, should Clinton be the nominee, that the M$M would feature reruns of the '90s classic "MonicaMonicaMonicaMonicaMonica!!!" 24/7, with an occasional break for "Hillary is a lesbian who was having a torrid affair with Vince Foster before she had him killed". :eyes: By now it should be clear that any Dem candidate is going to be swiftboated. Look at the abuse presently being heaped upon Jimmy Carter!

Obama may not even have known of Ayers' Weatherman past. It's not like there's a historical plaque on the house that reads "Former member of the Weather Underground lives here". As for GDA, the full quote is considerably less scary: "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human...."

In both instances, a then-obscure candidate for the Illinois state senate and a preacher are being retroactively placed under the microscope of a national political campaign. Who among us lives our lives thinking, "If I do this, it'll come back to haunt me when I run for President"?

It is increasingly clear that there is only one way to resolve this dispute: the consumption of a case of Corona on Opihi's lanai. :-) And I can guarantee all of you the ensuing debate (with Opihi in the Gibson/Snuffleupagus role) would be far more entertaining that anything you'd ever see on Faux or BSNBC!

And lest we lose sight of the real enemy here, McClown had the chutzpah to go to New Orleans today and say, if he were President, he would have gone there after the Federal Flood! Remember, he was eating cake with Bush while it happened. Did he urge Bush to go? Well? That's what I thought.

[oasis]

149. Corona/poke. On that we can agree.

:beer::hi:

[kevinbgoode]

117. Hahaha...she was damaged goods when she announced her candidacy

but the Republicans sure seem to love her.

[JVS]

91. See 89

[movonne]

2. Have you nothing better to do....

[SoCalDem]

3. Lens Crafters Night Manager : Hillary Clinton

:P

[KamaAina]

107. Wilford Brimley's Understudy: John McCain

:P :P

[ProSense]

4. Senator: Hillary Clinton,

at least for another four years.

Democratic Nominee: Barack Obama, currently the prospective nominmee

[frazzled]

5. Well, how about Hillary as Secretary of Health and Human Services?

I think that would be better.

[newmajority]

26. In 1993 maybe

But not with her Romneycare II plan.

[cali]

35. no way. i'd prefer howard dean

he's got tons of administrative experience. tons of experience instituting innovative health care initiatives. he's a doc who practiced for many years. and he really knows how to get things done.

[Clintonista2]

46. I wouldn't trust Howard Dean to flip my burger

[cali]

55. of course you wouldn't. you're a carvillian hillbot

[Clintonista2]

65. And you're an amoral deanie baby

Go back to disenfranchising states that don't vote for Obama.

[Warren DeMontague]

78. Those states "disenfranchised" THEMSELVES. There are RULES, they BROKE THEM.

You know this, you just don't give a shit, because all that matters is Hillary Clinton "winning" by any means necessary.

[JoFerret]

124. and rules are more important than voters

.

[Warren DeMontague]

134. Noooo. But the idea that FL and MI are being "picked on", as if someone FORCED them to hold their

primaries earlier than the rules said they could, is the height of fucking facetiousness.

[oasis]

48. Yup, get him out of the DNC, where he's done "a heckuva job".

:eyes:

[newmajority]

81. Yeah, why don't we bring back Terry McUseless as DNC chair

That 11 state strategy of his worked wonders, didn't it? :puke:

[oasis]

111. If Doc Dean handled his patients like he handled Michigan/Florida, he

would be up to his eyeballs in malpractice suits.

[Capn Sunshine]

92. Are you sitting in on our conference calls?

because that exact thing has been proposed if she agrees to go away in the next two weeks.

[Liberal Veteran]

98. I'm thinking she would do better as Minister of Plenty or Minister of Truth.

[ej510]

6. Shut the fuck up with that bullshit! He will not go to the back

of the bus! That's a fuckin slap in the face to the frontrunner!

[cali]

15. calm down.

let the denizens of hilllyworld have their blankies. he's got it.

[oasis]

20. To have the privilege of serving America is not a "slap in the face". To most

Americans anyway. Get real, it's a real chance for Obama to blossom. He never dreamed he would get this far.

If he loses against McCain, he'd be another Dukakis.

[ej510]

28. Here you go!

[cali]

30. what would hill be if she lost against McCain?

[oasis]

44. (1) Hillary has a better chance of winning.(2) Hillary didn't leap frog into

the race for the presidency. She's been working at it. History is kinder to those who miss the mark after they've worked hard.

[cali]

56. your opinion isn't backed by facts.

leap frog? wow, you guys are really bitter.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

80. OMFG.

Yeah, like Senator Carpetbagger Clinton (DLC-NY) didn't leapfrog.

God you Hillbots are delusional. :eyes:

[krkaufman]

114. Ah, by "leap frog" you mean it was Hillary's turn ...

.... and Obama broke protocol. I wasn't aware of any particular royal line of succession in regards to the Presidency or the Democratic Party's nomination process.

As for chances, all voting and polling to date indicate otherwise.

[oasis]

120. Obama's ambition-on-steroids compelled him to make a grab for Bobby Rush's

House seat a few years back but the voters had other ideas. You'd think he had learned how to wait his turn.

[krkaufman]

151. I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with any particular line of succession.

Candidates run when they consider the opportunity right, and Obama's time was right. The nomination would long have been Hillary's had she not spent her time in the Senate triangulating as a Republican, and Obama wouldn't have stood a chance. Besides, if it was strictly about who's turn it was, then Hillary should have stepped-aside for Biden or Dodd, who both have more experience than she does.

Obama is winning because of Hillary's perceived weaknesses and his perceived strengths. Royal succession doesn't enter into it.

[JoFerret]

51. Great position from which to effect real change

with hard work.

[oasis]

60. It certainly is. Some here take it as a putdown. Heck, where was the guy

just 3 years ago?

[JoFerret]

64. It would be great thing for the country

to have him as ambassador to the world.

He would have to do a lot of preparation to get ready. It's a tough job but he is a very quick learner.

[CakeGrrl]

94. Delusion breeds...condescension?

It's gonna be a long two weeks to NC!

:D

[JoFerret]

109. I disagree. He would be GREAT in that role

He is a very quick learner with a broad world view. Even though he lacks the chronological depth. I am sorry you think he might not be up for it.

Or are you suggesting he thinks it would be beneath him? I don't think he is that petty. Do you?

[LSparkle]

7. Presumptuous to say the least

He has the DELEGATE lead (which is the only lead that COUNTS at this point).

[John Q. Citizen]

9. I don't think he can serve in his own cabinet.

[Lerkfish]

31. you know, I honestly don't know if there's a constitutional provision AGAINST it

LOL!

[cali]

10. bwahahaha. you hillybots have such adorable delusions.

the odds of her winning the nomination are very, very slight. but hey, you want to live in hillyworld, have a blast.

[oasis]

23. Sec. of State or Dukakis Dungeon status. Deal or No Deal?

;-)

[Barack_America]

12. I don't want my feelings soothed. I want the rules and results of the Democratic Primaries upheld.

In fact, I don't want it, I DEMAND it. If the Democratic party is interested in my vote come November, that is.

[Andy823]

13. How about

Clinton as secretary of BS! She would be a "natural" for that job!

[sandnsea]

14. SHE LOST, just stop it n/t

[oasis]

32. Rip Van Winkle much?

[Lerkfish]

33. full of bullhsit much?

LOL!

[oasis]

40. Hey, I'm series.

:cry:See that?

[gcomeau]

16. You guys would be funny...

...if this wasn't so insulting to our intelligence.

[scheming daemons]

17. Another Hillbot trying to force someone to the back of the bus.... especially when he's WINNING....

[oasis]

29. Some Obama folk on this thread choose to play a wee bit of the race card

rather than give real thought to my proposal.

[Lerkfish]

38. plonk!

[Liberal Gramma]

77. You mean that was a serious proposal?

HE'S AHEAD IN THIS RACE! He's the one who is going to be choosing cabinet members.

[Mags]

18. You know I don't even think he qualified for that.

[dbmk]

106. Based on how the people Hillary picked has run her campaign

You would trust her to pick who should run the country - compared to Obama how Obama has done?

Really?

[Adelante]

19. What a day for a daydream nt

[Coexist]

22. y'all are hysterical.

[Jersey Devil]

24. Ambassador to Bullshitswana: Hillary Clinton

Bill could bring his bongos and they could have a ball.

[Indenturedebtor]

37. Actually Her Presidency Is Already Established

President of the Nation Of DENIAL ;)

Its over, move along folks nothing to see here :P

[PoliticalAmazon]

101. I thought she was the Red Queen of Nuktonia? n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

25. Looks like Hillbots want the black man to go to the back of the bus

even though he's winning and she can't overtake him.

[oasis]

36. If he accepts the cabinet position, you'll feel rather foolish. (eom)

[Bjorn Against]

72. Usually President's aren't offered Cabinet positions

Do the math. Hillary can't win.

[oasis]

123. Do the logic. If she can't win, why is she still in? duh!

:eyes:

[Bjorn Against]

150. Ron Paul is still in the race for the Republican nomination. Think he can win?

[CakeGrrl]

99. He's STEALING this from her...you know, instead of a car.

:eyes:

[Lerkfish]

27. OMFGBBQ! you owe me a new computer screen

oh wait...you were SERIOUS????


pathetic, not funny. My mistake.

[BlooInBloo]

34. Self-pwns are the best-pwns.

[redqueen]

39. She is losing.

Accept it.

[butterfly77]

41. Too bad we are not making any deals...

because Hillary is not winning...and once Barack wins she will not be vice president or hold any other seat in his cabinet...

[olkaz]

42. Full-time Lieberman Imitator: Hillary Clinton

As long as we're being trolls, here's my contribution!

[CreekDog]

45. The OP said with no irony whatsoever

:rofl:

[bowens43]

47. Sorry but he can't be president and Sec of state.

What would be really hill-arious is is hillary anouncing any cabinet position since she isn't going to get the nomination. Want to soothe hurt feelings? Have hillary resign and offer a public apology to our party and our country.

[JoFerret]

49. A good choice

.

[oasis]

52. An excellent choice. (eom)

[IndianaJones]

50. maybe just secretary. nt.

[zulchzulu]

53. I think after his two terms as President, being Sec. of State may be too much

He will have been the best President in history and after two terms, why not take a break and continue being a great ex-President as well.

[grantcart]

59. secretary general of the United Nations?

lol just kidding

[depakid]

54. I'd like to see that, provided it was under, say, President Gore

[BlooInBloo]

57. You guys are hilarious. "Unity ticket", SoS for Obama... YOU'RE LOSING.

[David__77]

68. What will they do after Obama gets a majority of delegates?

Will they support the presumptive nominee? We shall see...

[BlooInBloo]

69. Nah. They'll offer him a janitorial position, of course.

EDIT: Typo.

[TomClash]

58. Or maybe not

after Billary gets pasted in NC and IN.

[oasis]

61. Hill is on the rise. (eom)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

130. ...to the great electoral dustbin in the sky! nt

[dbonds]

62. He can't be both President and Sec of State

[Alexander]

63. Obama's got 1,721.5 delegates. Why should he quit now?

Can you reasonably explain how Clinton gets from 1,593.5 to 2024?

[Leftist Agitator]

66. Wow...

Will delusions never cease?

Hillary lost. Obama isn't going to drop out. Get your freaking head out of the clouds.

[David__77]

67. Even if I supported Clinton, I truly would see that Obama will probably be the nominee.

It's hard truth to see your opponent with the advantage. I honestly think the best the Clinton supporters can hope for is for neither Clinton nor Obama to be the nominee. There is simply no way that the pledged delegate leader - who is African-American - will be denied the nomination in favor of the pledged delegate loser. Another dark horse, possibly. I know, I know, it's technically within the realm of possibility that Clinton could emerge with more pledged delegates, but the chance of that is so thin as to be quite remote.

[Bjorn Against]

70. Ambassador to Bosnia: Hillary Clinton

[rg302200]

71. What? What planet are you on?

At what point does that fact that she can not win the nomination start to sink into your thick candidates head? Obama S.O.S? Fine I guess in that logic he could make Hillary ambassador to Iceland....a good place for her cold hearted ass!

[NC_Nurse]

73. Can a former President be Sec. Of State?

If she's still a viable Candidate in 2016 at what, age 68?
Hope her health holds up. If she keeps her Senate seat after this disastrous campaign.

[Dr Fate]

74. I agree-associating with Obama would be her only chance at winning the GE.

Even with that, I dont think Obama's popularity with moderate Repubs would over come their irrational hatred of her.

Besides, how could she justify her association with him after branding him as an unpatriotic, terrorist friendly, elitist, racist?

[oasis]

121. Do you think he'd make a good Sec. of State?

:shrug:

[jackson_dem]

75. Interesting idea

[oasis]

113. It's a more prestigious office than VP. (eom)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

76. New York Senator Defeated In Her Next Primary: Hillary Clinton. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

79. Huh... and here, I thought you boys were OFF the drugs.

:shrug:

[tritsofme]

82. He is not qualified for this position.

How did a couple years in the Senate prepare him for such a role?

[CADEMOCRAT7]

83. Why would President Obama do that ?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

84. And the Obama supporters are arrogant?

Hint: You're. Losing.

You don't get to bargain for anything.

[wisteria]

85. President Obama. Screw Hillary.

Hell no to anything else.

[FatDave]

86. I'm pretty sure there's a law somewhere...

...preventing the same person from holding the offices of President and Secretary of State simultaneously.

[CakeGrrl]

87. I think they've reached the "Bargaining" stage. n/t

[Political Heretic]

88. The level of delusion around here truly astounds me.

[JVS]

89. Sec. of Eat Shit: Hillary Clinton

[oasis]

115. Don't let the present lack of a secretary stop you. Go right ahead.

;-)

[JVS]

138. I have no desire to usurp her rightful place as the first Sec. of Eat Shit

[Tactical Progressive]

90. Obma isn't even remotely qualified to be Secretary of State

any more than he is to be President.

[walldude]

93. LMAO, she barely recovers from a standing 8 count

and now you want him to throw himself on the mat for her... :rofl:

[dana_b]

95. yuck.

he's still in the lead so a bit premature I would say.

[book_worm]

96. Wait! He doesn't have enough national security/foreign policy experience according to Hill, but you

think he should be Sec of State? He will be President of the United States and Hillary will be one of 100 Senators.

[Condem]

97. Think about this, Oasis

President-elect Barack Obama

[PoliticalAmazon]

100. Just to carry bags of money from India to Hillary? Nope. Don't think so. n/t

[democrattotheend]

104. Soothe the hurt feelings?

As an Obama supporter, I'd be so f*cking insulted that I'd have to think twice about voting for her. He may not have the nomination wrapped up yet, but at the very least he has earned one of the two spots on the ticket.

[oasis]

119. Sorry, VP is out. Anyway, the more prestigious position is Sec. of State.

He'd be a good fit for the job.

[democrattotheend]

125. VP is out? Says who?

I personally don't see any scenario where Clinton could get the nomination without making him her VP. Even that might alienate some of his supporters, but if she gets the nomination despite being behind in votes and delegates and does not put him on the ticket it's going to be a disaster. I would probably still vote for her, but I am not going back to the majority black neighborhoods in Philly that I canvassed on Tuesday and asking them to come out for her. If they said they felt betrayed and she did not deserve their vote I could hardly blame them.

I have a friend who is African American and supports Clinton, and I hope he will go to those neighborhoods and ask them to come out and vote, because as a white person I would not feel comfortable doing it.

[oasis]

126. The Clinton's never betrayed anyone in the AA community.

Those who will use this as an excuse not to vote for Hillary can wallow in their own self pity.

[democrattotheend]

127. I never said they did

But I think giving Clinton the nomination when Obama got more votes and more pledged delegates would be a betrayal by the party.

[oasis]

143. The Democratic Party will betray America if it fails to nominate a winning candidate

because it fears that some feelings may get hurt during the nomination process.

[CakeGrrl]

146. Did you fall down and take a bump on the head?

Exactly who, in your alternate universe, took the VP off the table for the person who's AHEAD?

[Orangepeel]

105. Sorry, he's booked.

Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation....

[IDemo]

110. Secretary at law firm of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe: Hillary Clinton

[Why Syzygy]

112. Exactly!

[kevinbgoode]

116. I figured Hillary would be naming some Right Wing shill for that post.

After all, she always rewards those who step in to help her campaign.

[mkultra]

129. for hillary, i suggets letting her mow the whitehouse lawn.

i think she can handle that one.

[madwivoter]

131. Ha!

:crazy: :freak:

[wowimthere]

132. except... She won't be the nominee. Obama has won by in large... PA was a side show like the rest

coming up. She only lives to campaign in other states knowing she will not be the nominee. This is a very silly post.

[DUyellow]

133. This tops suggesting Obama could be Clinton's VP when she was/is losing to him. LOL

[barack the house]

135. Lol. Now if you were running and ahead do you take a lower position? Would you feel patronised?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

137. The black person, who's winning, should take a subserviant role?

Hmm.

OK, I thought about it.

[oasis]

147. What's being black have to do with it? Wouldn't the same "winning" standard apply to others?

:eyes:

[LSK]

139. except he has the nomination locked up?????

:wtf:

[Harry Monroe]

140. The #2 person is going to offer the front runner a position??

What color is the sky on your planet?? I wouldn't offer Hillary dogshit in a paper bag!!!

[Mme. Defarge]

141. He has already been demoted from VP?

Was it something he said? Was it something she ate, or drank perhaps? :wtf:

[jenmito]

142. Is it constitutional for the president to also be Sec. of State?

:rofl:

[Lucky 13]

145. You want to soothe hurt feelings? Tell your monster of a candidate to stop slandering our nominee.

You think stealing the nomination and sending him to the back of the bus will soothe hurt feelings?

He's the FRONT RUNNER. Offering him anything but the Presidency is a slap in the face and will NOT soothe hurt feelings.

He doesn't need to work on his resume. He's every bit as qualified as she is.

He doesn't need her to offer him jack shit because he's winning this thing all on his own.

Oh and WHEN he does become the nominee and eventually President, I hope that he does NOT offer her the VP slot OR a cabinet position OR any other appointment. I hope that someone challenges her for her Senate seat and that she LOSES by an embarrasing margin. I hope she is forced into an early retirement so that she and her philandering husband can devote more time to their sham marriage. And I SINCERELY hope she spends the rest of her days polishing her rifle and duck hunting in Scranton.

You want to soothe hurt feelings? Tell your monster of a candidate to stop slandering our nominee and attempting to slime her way to the nomination.

That is all.