Real Dems should run a primary challenge against Hillary's Senate seat next time around.

[mistertrickster]

Maybe we can get somebody who won't back Republican wars this time.

[ej510]

1. I will help fund it.

[LakeSamish706]

2. Now theres a plan I would like to see come to pass. n/t

[dlfuller]

3. You got that right

We need to run challenges against any so called Democrats who are not progressive. I understand there are quite a few.

[MADem]

4. With any luck President HR Clinton will help RFK Junior win that seat. NT

[ej510]

5. Hillary will join he ederly and become a greeter at Wal-Mart.

[MADem]

11. My, what a clever riposte, that was... not really. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Why The Ageist Slur

It's hardly progressive but we already know you are not one...

[Bake]

38. What ageist slur ... "ederly?"

I don't even know what that means ... oh, the poster meant ELDERLY. Right.

And they call the Hillary supporters uneducated ...

Bake

[QC]

41. It's what passes for clever repartee around here these days. n/t

[Leftist Agitator]

7. You'd need an magical rainbow iceberg's worth of luck...

For Hillary to come anywhere close to winning the presidency in this lifetime.

[MADem]

12. We'll see. nt

[bookman]

6. I'm an Obama supporter...

..who would like to see Senator Clinton remain.

I prefer Obama for President, but I think Senator Clinton is an ok Democrat. She's done some good things for NY.

Someday (hopefully soon) we all have to get through this and concentrate on McCain.

[Yael]

8. Just let me know who to send a contribution to

[dbackjon]

9. And maybe a REAL Democrat can run in Illinois' primary

And beat Obama.

You know - a Democrat that actually supports equal rights for all Americans, not just the heterosexual ones.

[mistertrickster]

13. Hell hath no fury like a non-hetrosexual scorned. Obama had a gay preacher at that event

that got the GLBT community so twisted up.

But one is either 100 percent gay-friendly or they must be CRUSHED!

BTW, Bill was the one who signed the HATE AMENDMENT making gay marriage illegal, not Obama.

[dbackjon]

16. What Bill did doens't excuse Obama's opposition to equality

And Obama does NOT support full equality for all Americans

[ieoeja]

23. This thread was about Hillary (who also does not support full equality for Gays).

She and Obama hold the exact same position regarding Gay marriage.

[dbackjon]

48. This thread is idiotic to begin with

I was just highlighting that neither are "Real" Democrats, but once again, the Obamatrons fail to notice, but are content to tear the party apart by denigrating Clinton.

[mistertrickster]

24. Okay, but isn't Hillary running on Bill's "experience." It's hypocritical to

whine about Obama's gospel singer, which hurt homosexuals not at all, and ignore the Clinton's support of the HATE Amendment.

[northzax]

45. wow, bill Clinton signed an amendment?

to what? And here I thought the President only signed bills and treaties. I don't remember any amendments while Clinton was in office, you should like go and update the wikipedia page, cause they don't have one either.

oh, you mean the Defense of Marriage Act? The one he signed to defang a very popular movement to actually amend the constitution? One that would have succeeded, and removed any real possibility of any state having equal rights for a generation at least?

DOMA is a bad law, but it protected us from an even worse amendment. Laws can be changed, amendments are basically forever.

[QC]

44. Damn ungrateful nellies always whining about something!

He had somebody else there besides the guy who says they are possessed by Satan and determined to kill America's children. And he said they can have "a basic set of rights." Isn't that enough for those people!

Geez, you'd think they thought they were just as good as the normal people.

[Muttocracy]

10. I wonder if she'll want to keep doing it since it was just a stepping stone for the White House. nt

[Olney Blue]

19. One could say the same about Senator Obama. They all do it.

[mistertrickster]

14. Especially since she bad-mouthed the "moveon.com liberals" and backed

Leiberman over Ned Lamont.

[Mags]

40. Move on stabbed her in the back.get real.

[mamalone]

15. Oh, please, please, please....

I'm from NY and I am hoping and praying that she'll get challenged for her Senate seat. I think she'll have a very difficult time holding on to it, honestly..

[SoCalDem]

17. Nope.. she's probably got some people RIGHT now, preparing to "coax" Patterson

into "spending more time with his family" so she can be governor.

She has to be pissed beyond belief to think that she'll have to go back to being 1 of 100 in the senate..She has slogged along patiently at the job because it was her ticket to ride the White House Express..but the train left the station without her, so I doublt she has much interest in that job anymore..

[Political Heretic]

18. No.

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. She handily defeated Jonathan Tasini two year ago. I guess he was a fake Democrat

[ampad]

21. I'm all for it

I'm sure after everything is said and done she will have a hard time holding on to that job. It would be funny to see how she will try to counter all the ammo she has put out there.

[NoPasaran]

22. Pointless, since she'll be in the White House

Deal with it, bozo!

[mistertrickster]

25. She'll be in the White House? I thought they already had a cleaning woman . . . nt

[mistertrickster]

26. BTW, I'll bet you a $50 donation to DemocraticUnderground that Obama gets the nomination.

Deal with it, hehehe.

[Texas Hill Country]

27. petty.

[jconner27]

28. Ha

I'm starting to see that 28% of the people who said they wouldn't vote for Obama are seeing.. I will suggest to the Hillary supporters not only let Obama get slice and dice by the Republicans in the fall if he gets the nomination.. Send money to the RNC to help boot Obama when his senate is up.

[mistertrickster]

35. You judge a man by his supporters? I judge a man by the man.

The 28 percent who won't vote for Obama include the RepubliCONs who crossed over to vote for Hillary and racists.

Nice company you keep there.

Not only that, I didn't say support the RepubliCON next election cycle--I said run a real progressive Dem against Hillary "Nuke 'Em Now" Clinton.

[woolldog]

29. would love to see that happen.

Isn't there a Kennedy from NY who is considering running?

[leftynyc]

30. I see you're not from New York

Why don't you let us worry about our representatives in congress? And we wont tell you what's wrong with Kansas. Is that fair?

[mistertrickster]

34. Actually, I wish you WOULD help us out in Kansas. My Rep is the Hon. Todd Tiahrt, the biggest

right-wing Bush shill among the entire House. My Senator is the execrable Pat Roberts, who stalled the Intel Committee Report on WMD's Iraq so as to not implicate his CONservative bosses.

The joke out here is that if Bush turns too abruptly, Pat Roberts will break his nose . . .

[leftynyc]

51. Oy - I'm sorry to hear that

I was being snarky (New Yorkers are born that way) and I shouldn't have been. I can't even imagine being represented by conservative whackos. I was represented by a republican congressman but he was very pro choice and very enviormentally conscious so it wasn't too bad - retired and replaced by a very liberal woman.

Is there any chance at all the Kansas would go blue in November?

[mistertrickster]

52. I'd like to think so, but realistically, that's a long-shot. We've got 2x more Reps registered than

Dems at this point.

[BlueIdaho]

31. I already have $200 set aside to donate to any challenger.

Its time for the Clintons to take their massive egos on the book tour circuit. I can only hope they will take the rest of their DLC cronies with them.

[Coexist]

32. that is an issue for the people of NY to decide

[PBS Poll-435]

33. That'll Learn Her Good!

That seat is Hillary's as long as she wants it.

Fact.

[liberaldem4ever]

37. K & R!

[gsaguyCLW54]

39. pretty myopic view of things.....

...as did many of the Senators supporting Obama. I hold that vote against her and always will, but lets not pretend voting against the resolution was a support for war.

[mistertrickster]

50. It was a gutless capitulation to fear and war-mongering.

And so is her continued defense of it instead of Edward's principled apology for it.

[Austinitis]

42. I think you're kind of out of touch there...

[bigwillq]

43. Good idea.

The only way to change something we dislike is to do something about it. Good thinking. :thumbsup:

[Why Syzygy]

46. They will. She is RUINED. Her filthy indiscretions know no bounds.

She is much more the LIAR than Bill was IMPEACHED for. Do you think she could make it four years without LYING to Congress or the American People? HA!

[depakid]

47. Seems to me that there are a lot bigger fish to fry than Hillary

I know, the irrational hatred demands its pound of flesh.

If the party is really interested in getting rid of its far right enablers- there about 6 or 7 senators who routinely vote with Republicans- or have undermined Democratic efforts to block egregious legislation or incompetent and extreme nominees.

And I have news- Hillary's not among them....

[thoughtcrime1984]

49. I'd donate to her challenger

She needs to be out of politics.

[Lord Helmet]

53. great idea, time to take out the trash

[ObamaKerryDem]

54. I wouldn't be surprised..

She's managed to alienate so many Dems, even ones who used to support her (myself included). It's a damn shame, really..