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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:13 PM
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Simple MATH: If remaining pledged delegates split 50/50, Clinton needs 69% of uncommitted Super Ds..
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 10:45 PM by tiptoe
to get to 2024. (Download the Excel Delegate Calculator)

The Excel Delegate Calculator
TruthIsAll    http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/DelegateCalculator.htm

April 24, 2008

The Pennsylvania primary only served to postpone the inevitable: Clinton's 9-point win just put Obama in a much stronger position to get the 2024 total delegates he needs to win the nomination.

Obama currently leads Clinton by 1488–1338 in pledged delegates.
On Feb. 20, Clinton led Obama by 81 super delegates (246-165). Her lead has been cut to 24 (262-238).

For Clinton to catch Obama in pledged delegates, she needs to win 69% of the vote in the remaining primaries.
If Obama wins 50% of the remaining pledged delegates, he will need just 32% of the 295 uncommitted super delegates to clinch the nomination.


This graph displays the effect of Obama projected shares on the pledged delegate () count.

This is a graph of the trend in super delegates ().

This is a graph of the required super delegates () needed by Obama to win the nomination over various projected primary vote shares.

This is a summary of the 2008 Primaries.

The Delegate Calculator is an Excel worksheet for projecting the total number of pledged and super delegates.



TruthIsAll

24-Apr-08

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/2008PrimariesLinks.htm

Enter current data and projected vote shares in BLUE cells only

Total Pledged and Super Delegates needed to win: 2024 (excl. FL, MI)




Current Delegates

Projected Delegates



Pledged Super Total
Obama 1488 238 1728
Clinton 1338 262 1600
Other 19
Total 2845 500 3326

                                         Pledged+
Pledged Total Super Total Super
Obama 204 1691 50.0% 386 2077
Clinton 204 1543 50.0% 410 1952
Other 19 19
Total 408 3253 795 3038


Remaining  408      295       703

 

Pledged Delegates



Pre- March 4 Total Vote share % Delegates
Primaries Delegates BO HRC BO HRC
Pledged 2253 52.3% 47.7% 1207 1046


Post-March 4 Total Vote share % Delegates
Primary Delegates BO HRC BO HRC
3/04 OH 144 45 55 65 76
3/04 RI 21 41 59 8 13
3/04 TX 193 47 51 99 94
3/04 VT 15 59 39 9 6
3/08 WY 12 61 38 7 5
3/11 MS 33 61 37 20 13
4/22 PA 158 46 54 73 85

Total 573 47.4% 51.7% 281 292


Current Pledged 2826 51.4% 48.6% 1488 1338


Current Super 500 47.6% 52.4% 238 262
Current Total 3326 51.9% 48.1% 1726 1600


Pledged Delegate Projections (enter BO vote shares only)


Total Vote share % Delegates
Date Primary Delegates BO HRC BO HRC
5/03 Guam 4 50 50 2 2
5/06 IN 72 50 50 36 36
5/06 NC 115 55 45 63 52
5/13 WV 28 42 58 12 16
5/20 KY 51 40 60 20 31
5/20 OR 52 55 45 29 23
6/01 PR 55 45 55 25 30
6/03 MT 16 55 45 9 7
6/03 SD 15 55 45 8 7

Total 408 50.0% 50.0% 204 204


Projected Pledged 3234 51.2% 48.8% 1691 1543


Sensitivity Analysis



                                 Obama Projected Share of Remaining Pledged Delegates
Delegates 32% 34% 36% 38% 40% 42% 44% 46% 48% 50%
Pledged
BO 131 139 147 155 163 171 180 188 196 204
HRC 277 269 261 253 245 237 228 220 212 204
 

Projected Total Pledged
BO 1618 1626 1635 1643 1651 1659 1667 1675 1684 1692
HRC 1616 1608 1599 1591 1583 1575 1567 1559 1550 1542
Diff 2 19 35 51 68 84 100 117 133 149

Projected Pledged + Current Super
BO 1856 1864 1873 1881 1889 1897 1905 1913 1922 1930
HRC 1878 1870 1861 1853 1845 1837 1829 1821 1812 1804
Diff (22) (5) 11 27 44 60 76 93 109 125


Super Obama Share of Uncommitted Super Delegates Needed to Clinch
Delegates 168 160 151 143 135 127 119 111 102 94
Share 56.9% 54.1% 51.3% 48.6% 45.8% 43.0% 40.3% 37.5% 34.7% 32.0%


Super delegate share required by Obama for various projected pledged vote shares
Pledged 32% 34% 36% 38% 40% 42% 44% 46% 48% 50%
Super 56.9% 54.1% 51.3% 48.6% 45.8% 43.0% 40.3% 37.5% 34.7% 32.0%



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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:20 PM
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1. Bullshit
Bush just signed an executive order banning math.

Ha ha! Now Clinton will win!
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:19 AM
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3. D'oh! nt
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:24 PM
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2. The way I see it,
and I don't really care which one wins... is that the largest chunk of the remaining superdelegates will vote more or less as a block. If they haven't committed by now, I think they are waiting for a nod from someone.

There may be several blocks out there among the SDs. I don't believe for a second that they are all acting independently.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:58 PM
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4. Announcements like the following could be influential:
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 06:00 PM by tiptoe
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:12 PM
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5. Another super delegate announced for Obama. 4/25
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:16 PM
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6. This is all backwards.
The f'ing superdelegates could and should endorse NOW.

If only 40% of the ones who currently exist (not add-ons to be chosen later) endorsed Obama, he would need only 45% of the remaining Pledged Delegates up for grabs in the final states/territories.

Since all the polls show he'll do better than that, we could pretty much call him the presumptive nominee and start working on McCain.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:25 PM
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8. yep...and this factor has been prolonging the delay on attending to McCain:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:24 PM
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7. God bless Rev. Wright!!!!!!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 11:25 PM by jackson_dem
Great job doing that work, tipetoe. Here are some points you overlooked:

1) She needs 69% to get to 2,024. She needs less, probably around 62-63% to prevent Obama from getting 2,024 and taking this to the second ballot, where all bets are off because delegates are free to vote as they wish then. This is a scenario under which Gore could emerge.

2) She needs that percentage if FL and MI are seated. If they are the delegate gap closes, even if uncommitted is given to Obama, and the magic number becomes 2,208. She would need a lot smaller percentage of supers if FL or FL and MI get in.

3) She will likely enjoy a net delegate gain in the remaining primaries, chiefly due to blowouts in WV and KY.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:45 PM
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9. we'll see how things play out. nt
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