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Fri Apr-25-08 12:40 PM
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That HIllary won't speak out against the repuke racist campaign against Obama in NC |
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tells everyone exactly what they need to know about her character- or rather her lack thereof. And if the repukes were doing that kind of crap against Hillary and Obama's campaign said no comment, I'd feel the same way about Obama.
One more revealing moment showing something very ugly about her. I don't need to know anything more. I don't care anymore that she's gutsy or has a fighting spirit or did the right thing on this or that issue or vote. Her temperment and character make her a very poor choice for President.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:41 PM
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1. And to add insult to injury... she's abandoning the downticket Dems |
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Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:41 PM by redqueen
who are also being smeared with the ad.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:43 PM
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6. it's more than that for me, redqueen |
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it's beyond party loyalty. it's about basic decency and taking a stand against hate. By not denouncing it, she's absolutely embracing it.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:44 PM
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9. It is about basic decency, isn't it? |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:45 PM
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:47 PM
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13. She's not just "embracing it" ... she's FUELING it. |
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They might as well be a 527 in her camp ... they're INDISTINGUISHABLE from her.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:51 PM
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21. because it benefits her |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:44 PM
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10. Cliton simply doesn't support Democrats, she has nothing to offer Democrats... |
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... She merely uses the party as a vehicle to her own power.
Obama however has bonafide coattails downticket - both in direct campaigning, and by enlarging the Democratic electorate itself.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:07 PM
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35. "enlarging the Democratic electorate itself" |
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Those are the key words... and I sure hope the SDs have taken note.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:10 PM
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36. And, to add to it, Bill is campaigning exclusively in white, rural areas. One might ask why. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:25 PM
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but maybe it's because he thinks he can get more votes for Hillary by focusing his efforts on those areas.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:42 PM
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2. she'll fight for herself every day |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:42 PM
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3. Obama needs to go on the attack. Seriously, she needs to be put on the defensive. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:44 PM
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:42 PM
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4. weird that the Repub candidate shows more class than Hillary |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:42 PM
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5. Too busy taking notes. |
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She's more than happy to let the nasty racist smears go on. Hell, it save her $$$ so she doesn't have to do it herself. x(
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:45 PM
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11. I wonder how the Hillbots would react |
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If the GOP were running ads featuring Gloria Steinem mocking John McCain being a POW, or Marcia Pappas from NY NOW talking about the press "gang banging" Clinton. I'm not personally offended by what Steinem said, especially in the context of the point she was making about gender, and I'm only slightly bothered by Pappas' statement. But those are pretty controversial things to mainstream America. Imagine them in a ad shown in the NC market. Obama would probably denounce them as sexist and irrelevant to the issues. Notice how he's never brought up outrageous comments made by Clinton's surrogates, while her campaign has a field day with his.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:47 PM
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Brought to the attention of the SD's that have not committed yet, and I am sure that somebody in Obama's camp is thinking the same thing, or already done so. This goes to prove that Hillary is not interested in the party winning in November, but only in her own selfish desire to trash Obama no matter what it takes. I still think her goal is to make sure Obama can't win so she can run again in 2012.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 PM
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19. I am wondering what they said to her |
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at her private closed door meeting with uncommitted supers in the house and senate yesterday. I think its unfair she got to attack them all at once. God I would give anything to know what she said and they said. I bet she begged them not to come out for obama at least till after may 6th. or maybe longer.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:56 PM
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28. I would like to know also |
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But I doubt we ever will.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:48 PM
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14. Why would she speak out against Republicans when she's depending on them? |
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She has completely gone over to the dark side, nothing that she does now surprises me.
The only surprise is the number of Democrats willing to follow her as she becomes another Republican.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:48 PM
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That`s the Clinton standard.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:49 PM
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16. Wouldn't speaking about an obvious and transparent smear give it visibility? |
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:51 PM
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22. Considering the fact that she's given visibility to it herself... |
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that excuse sorta falls apart pretty much immediately.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:54 PM
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(I might be ignorant on this one :-))
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:59 PM
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31. She said she would have walked out... |
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you can choose your pastor... all that crap.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:02 PM
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32. Oh.. I thought it was something recent. |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:58 PM
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29. no. it's already hugely visable. |
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I'm sorry. You're a great supporter of Clinton's but this is just not defensible.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 PM
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17. There's no daylight between the Clinton campaign and the NC GOP. None. |
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How much clearer could it be??
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 PM
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18. I thought she was showing some class by not commenting on the Rev. Wright incident |
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She was just waiting for the right time to attack. I think she's doing the same thing now, trying to figure out how to use this to her advantage.
She'll probably point to this ad as an example of what the GOP will do to Obama so you may as well vote for her.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:51 PM
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20. Hillary is out for herself. |
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It should be obvious to anyone paying attention.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:51 PM
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23. YEAH! She should do what Obama did when Jesse Jackson III was calling them racists in SC!!! |
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Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:52 PM by wlucinda
Oh. Wait. He didn't do anything to stop it.
Never mind.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:43 PM
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he ultimately renounced his campaign's smear-tasctics in South Carolina, and he claims that he put a stop to it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in South Carolina. As a Hillary supporter, I've seen enough of the "Let's interpret X in the most unsympathetic way possible."
By the way, I like to think that you use "wlucinda" because you are lucinda williams, my favorite singer. If you are, then I agree with anything you say.
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Fri Apr-25-08 02:57 PM
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:hi: I am definitely Lucinda...and my last name does start with a W.
As for Obama, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt in SC. He could have stopped it immediately, but chose not to. Politics 101.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:51 PM
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24. Hillary is not a Democrat. - n/t |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:52 PM
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25. It's like her "as far as I know" qualification about whether he is a Muslim. n/t |
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:32 PM
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38. haven't heard that anti-Clinton smear in a while n/t |
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:56 PM
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27. The effects of the right-wing attacks on Hillary Clinton |
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were a primary argument from Obama concerning his own electability: She was tarnished, "polarizing - divisive."
Obama himself overtly CAPITALIZED ON RIGHT-WING ATTACKS. And now you think Hillary should rush to his aid?? Oh dear God. So you think Hillary should come out and call the repukes racist for running an ad featuring Obama's mentor? That ad may be dirty, yes, but you need some proof of racism to make that charge - with credibility.
So even looking beyond Obama's shameless use of right-wing attacks for personal gain (treachery), Hillary, would look very silly saving Obama from what she "thought" the repukes meant.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:04 PM
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33. completely pathetic rationalizing of the indefensible |
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this isn't about rushing to his aid. how sad that you can't see that. there have been numerous articles about the ad being racist. Hilly is just being hilly. I'm glad this will further screw her with the SDs.
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Fri Apr-25-08 12:59 PM
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Every democrat should be condemning the ad. It's a sad state of affairs when McCain spoke out against it but other democrats didn't.
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Fri Apr-25-08 01:06 PM
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34. "I'm fired up for the Lady~!" |
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