Hillary supporter states on this board that "Oprah got her 'black' on" when campaigning for Obama...

[Danieljay]

Would someone please explain to me in detail just exactly what that means to them? I'm curious as to how that will be defended.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. In the context coming from that particular person, it translates to...

"Black people is stupid. White power!"

[SoonerPride]

2. Must be someone on my ignore list.

Now you know why.

[VenusRising]

3. I hope you alerted the post.

That is nothing but a racist statement and shouldn't be tolerated on a progressive board.

[xultar]

9. Why. I'm black. It's fucking true. We behave differently when we are with white people than

if we are with a group of black people.

[XemaSab]

31. Yes, it's a fact, and it's something that white people with ANY racism in them are suspicious of

It's part of the racist mentality that even though black people can "act" like white people, behind closed doors the mask comes off.

It's why the pastor attacks are nasty and effective. Obama "acts" like a normal, clean-cut dude, but he's really a secret Black Panther. :eyes:

[IntravenousDemilo]

42. Oh please, why can't you just be your fabulous self no matter whom you're talking to? n/m

[crankychatter]

43. This was in response to Clinton's fake southern accent in NC

as a "comeback"

The poster was implying that Oprah, normally a "well spoken" Black person, to put it in racist White idiom... had faked more African American accent, inflection and mannerisms... when endorsing Barack Obama in front of Black audiences.

There is a big difference between natural affectation and full on, self-misrepresentation.

This "comeback" may have been several times removed from true meaning but is hardly ambiguous, in it's clearly racist undertones.

THAT'S the "big deal."

[crankychatter]

47. I should add though... I don't think it's worth a top post or much discussion

really scraping here... jumping on a flippant remark from some transient in DU

[SaveOurDemocracy]

65. Although she moved from NYC in 1968 ... my mom

easily slips back into her NY speech patterns when talking to others from there. We've been teasing her about it for years.


If you listen to Oprah's speech patterns on her show, and compare them with her 'speechifying' for Obama ... there's a distinct difference.


Hiya xultar :hi:

[invictus]

10. That comment shows all of us what Team Clinton is really thinking and what kind of voter ...

... the Clintons are trying to appeal to.

[movonne]

41. Now that they don't have the black vote ... kick them under the bus...

[invictus]

4. There has been a constant racist undertone to Hillary's campaign. n/t

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[cali]

5. sure.

it means that hillbot is a racist pig. not the first one here by any means

[xultar]

7. I have to post a response about this. I know that everyone will say that it is racist.

But,
When I'm comfortable, I behave and speak differently when I'm around my own kind...BLACK FOLK. When I'm amongst white people, I may behave and speak differently.

My boyfriends some of who have been of other races have all said that when I'm hanging with a group of mostly black folk I speak and behave differently than when I hang with white folks, asian folks, Mmuslim folks, Jewish folks etc.

So I get what that poster is saying. Don't try to make it racist. IT is a fact that we behave differently with each other than we do with y'all around.

[Yes We Did]

13. That's fine for you, but then again, that is just you.

my gf is black and she talks and acts the same way around me as she does anyone else.

[xultar]

17. Trust me when you aren't there things are different. They just are, my brother's wife is white

when he and she are around we don't jones, tease, and play the dozens but when she's gone we do.

When you aren't there how would you know? Just askin.

[Yes We Did]

23. And not knowing her how would you know?

Please don't pretend to know more about her than I do. If those are your experiences, then those are yours. But not eveyone is the same. So please don't pretend to know about someone you have never met.

[xultar]

24. I'm just sayin, nothin like dancin with your aunties, and uncles to Earth Wind and Fire while pickin

on your cousin for having nappy hair and crusty feet.

Ahhh family time, so sweet.

[Yes We Did]

26. I hate to tell ya, but family time is family time.

You think white people can't have nappy hair and crusty feet?

You should visit my family.

[xultar]

29. My Ex Boyfriend, nappy headed jewish guy, with crusty feet....he was more intune with his blackness

than I was with mine.

He is the only white doode my grandmother liked enough for me to marry. She said,(she was 85) That white boy sure is black baby, y'all would make some pretty babies, you should marry him.

ROFL

[goletian]

50. nothin like knowing ignorance can be found among blacks just as its found among whites. - nt

[Yes We Did]

59. I think it has more to do with personal experience.

When I was young, if I were to go by personal experience alone, I would have thought that all black people were like the TV shows.

I have no doubt that she believes every word she says, but the fact is that no two people are exactly alike. And you shouldn't pretend to know what goes on in someone elses home.

[goletian]

63. exactly. im sure she knows shes making some obvious generalizations. - nt

[Political Heretic]

19. That's not "just" her. It's many, but not all, people.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. That would be a perfectly logical explanation...

a discussion about how African Americans have to be "bilingual in english." Speaking one way around friends and family, and another way around, say, white racist job interviewers.

Unfortunately, this particular person has a history of racially insensitive comments, and I really doubt that's what he was getting at.

[redstate_democrat]

15. Um...please don't pretend to speak for all Black people.

You do you and the rest of us will do us. I'm black and fortunately, I don't have to pretend to be something I am not depending on whose company I have to be in.

Thank you kindly.

[xultar]

20. rofl, So you clown, dance to Earth Wind and Fire, play the dozens regardless of who is around

good for you

I don't because white folks just don't get it.

[Yes We Did]

25. Excuse me!?

You did not just say that.

Ignorant, simply ignorant.

[xultar]

27. Bade-ya bade-ya badey-yah eha eha bah bah bah bah

[Yes We Did]

34. You saying "white folks just don't get it" is ignorant.

It is a biggoted statement to make.

And for the record, I'm not white. I'm native american.

That is what I was commenting on.

[xultar]

35. Hey you're down with EW&F...That is great. Welcome to the club.

[Yes We Did]

38. ...Gather Round... One of my favorite songs of all time.

[Yes We Did]

36. Thank you for changing that.

[xultar]

48. Look I'm a 38 year old black woman, I've lived in Pocatello ID, New ORleans,

Chicago, Charlotte, Atlanta, Michigan,


I didn't change it because I felt it was untrue. I changed it because I know people wouldn't admit it was true. I know the enlightened black folk on DU will say otherwise. But in the deep down in their heart they know they play certain music when they host a party with white folk around than when they know mostly black folk are coming.

We know when we can do a steppers set at a party and when we can't. Simple.

[Yes We Did]

57. But you can't generalize people like that.

Even if they are your "own people"

That would be like me saying that all native americans have drinking problems.

[xultar]

51. Someone posted this below...You gotta read this...Words of Sen Obama in reference to Wright

Sen. OBAMA: "That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or the beauty shop or around the kitchen table. And occasionally, it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning in the pulpit and in the pews."


Which is EXACTLY what I'm sayin

Black Churches are a prime example.

[Yes We Did]

58. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm not blind.

What I am saying is that all people are not the same. My girlfriend for example will not tolerate anyone around her making a biggoted statement of ANY kind to ANY group of people; white, black, hispanic... you name it.

All people are not the same. And I wish you wouldn't feed stereotypes like that.

[burythehatchet]

21. THANK YOU!

[flowomo]

33. thank you for speaking up on this.

I believe you are right, and that this is true many members (not all) of all ethnic/racial groups. I hear it from my students from time to time. And I think Sen. Obama himself acknowledged it in his race-relations speech, as I said in the post below.

[xultar]

37. WE all do it. It is nature to speak and behave differently in groups where we feel comfortable.

Why people want to deny it is totally beyond me.

[flowomo]

46. much of GDP isn't about thinking or discussing these days...

and that's why I appreciated your post. In this environment, you knew it would be attacked and put it out there anyway.

By the way, when I'm with my family on my mother's side? I get my Italian on. In other situations, no one would ever guess I had any Italian roots at all. I'm not ashamed or "passing," it's just about culture, language, attitudes, experiences, solidarity and all those other complex things that define family and social groups.

[xultar]

49. Straight up. You know it. Why is it so hard for people to admit stuff like this.

BUT, they know deep down, you have your inside and outside voices, just like you have inside and outside behaviors. At work I can't dig in my sweats and pull my thong out of my ass like I do @ the crib. We all want to say we behave the same way regardless of where we are but we don't. PURE AND SIMPLE.

I haven't posted in weeks on DU because I hate this place. I come check out LBN, look @ the latest, and if I'm really feeling brave I'll peak in on the carnage in GDP. And then I get the fuck off this board.

I couldn't let this thread go because I just had to say the truth. Which is what cracks me up. Obama supporters always say that he speaks the truth and some people may not like it and he does it anyway.

Well I just did it. I just said a truth that we already know. and blammo attack mode is in force...not all, don't speak for all black folk etc... Why do people still post that shit as if anyone really thought they could speak for all? WE ALL KNOW THAT! WE ALL KNOW OUR POSTS DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL...oops there I go again speaking for all the people on the planet...guess that means I need to end this shit..

PEACE!

[flowomo]

53. well, it it's any consolation, I admired your post.

peace/out. (LOL, that's how my son always ends his IM sessions with me -- and I've never used it myself before. It just popped out from the keyboard).

[TahitiNut]

56. Well, if it means anything at all ...

... we (you and I) have far, far more in common than we'll ever have different, cousin. Some of us ("white boys") aren't so insecure that you can't be YOURself -- all of it! You could take me to meet your nana any day. Just because I don't "do it" doesn't mean I don't "get it." While I might like EW&F, I prefer Motown - and the Beach Boys.

:rofl: :rofl:

:hug: :loveya: You better know you're tops in my book.

[xultar]

61. Luv ya sweetie!

[ampad]

8. They are really showing their ass

Please one of you tell this black person what it means to get your "black on." As far as I know black people are black 24/7.

[xultar]

11. You know what the deal is. As a black person you know we cut up when

we are amongst our own. Don't lie.

[NatBurner]

16. i'd cosign this, but...

*looks around*




nah seriously tho, i know what u mean

[xultar]

22. In-cog-negro...I was at an All African American Executive conference...and

we had a discussion about how when more than 2 black folk stand together around white folk it is ok but if a third bruva or sistah joins then we gotta go incognegro so the white folks don't get nervous and think we are scheming to be run away slaves.

It was funny.

But yes in-cognegro is totally in effect.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

52. I used to work with a lot of black women and when they saw I was accepting of them- they'd let me in

on a lot of things. They'd definitely act differently around me than they would around the more "uptight" people at work - and they told me they did so. We worked at a very uptight bank - so you had to mind your p's and q's. I acted differently around them them too, however.

It started by me asking one of my co-workers what "dawg" meant - why she kept saying it - I thought it was kind of cool... Then I started using it. We got to be good friends. She taught me all kinds of things and vice-versa.

There is probably a difference between someone who grew up in the city and the burbs.

[xultar]

54. Exactly that is the point. I do have white friends that I feel free to act as crazy

as I wanna because they is accepting of me regardless...

Hanging with them is like family.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

55. When they saw I wasn't judging them like a lot of other people did-

they'd let their hair down. We had a mutual respect. We were very different from each other too.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Not as much as Hillary got her white on when she waxed misty-eyed over Lake Winola and pinochle

(I won't miss this when it's over.)

[nomorenomore08]

32. HA! Best post of the thread!

nt

[SoFlaJet]

18. well did anyone else happen to notice Hillary's southern accent

yesterday talking in North Carolina? She's is such a fucking phony man

[Austinitis]

28. OMGOMGOMG!!!!!! There's something WRONG on the internet!!!!!

Why do you Obama people insist on making a new thread every time someone says something they shouldn't? It doesn't say anything about the race, about the candidates, about the supporters generally (unless you have lots of links to show a trend), or anything we care about.

I mean, maybe if it was going to help your candidate I could understand, but it's like you guys get a kick out of pretending to be mad about random trolls....

[redqueen]

45. You Obama people? Are you really that myopic?

Hillary's supporters here have gone so far as to dig up months-old posts FROM OTHER WEBSITES to post here and bitch about.

Please.

[flowomo]

30. Obama himself refered to this in his race-relations speech:

Sen. OBAMA: "That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or the beauty shop or around the kitchen table. And occasionally, it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning in the pulpit and in the pews."

Isn't this somewhat the same point?

[NatBurner]

40. yep

that's exactly right

and it's been going on since the slave quarters-

i could wax loquacious about the "duality of the american negro", but it's friday :)

i'll save all that angst for a wednesday

[Catherine Vincent]

39. You should have asked that particular DUer.

And more than likely, s/he was black him/herself.

[Coexist]

44. I wasn't aware she had "taken her black off" at any time??

[madrchsod]

60. i think mike jackson tried that and look what happened!

[Coexist]

62. lol!

[SoCalDem]

64. Here's what it "means"

A "pink" person (we're not really "white"..are we? ) can mask racism for a while, but eventually it always comes out..

a black person stands before us as they are..black.. they cannot hide it, even if they WANTED to..

As long as "pinkies" are in charge, they will always feel the need to pander to whatever "color" person they are appealing to. People who are NOT "pinkies" will not even be a minority for much longer, if they ever got together politically, but for now they are all niche minorities that "pinkies" pander to..

Within ANY group, there are common feelings, lingos, customs, so WHY would it be unusual or a "non-pinkie" to speak in a manner that is common to them.

Hillary is now "Miss Hillary, Antebellum Southern Belle" ,since she's moved on to her 6th or 7th "homestate"..she's wearing her drawl..

As for Oprah... You GO, girl:)