Obama very effective at courting White Democrats

[XemaSab]

Among states Obama won:

*Obama got 48% of white men in Georgia.

*Obama got 58% of white voters ages 18-29 in Georgia.

*Obama got 33% of the white vote in Iowa, to Hillary's 27%.

*Obama got 49% of white men in Texas, tying with Hillary.

*Obama got 56% of white voters ages 30-44 in Texas.

*Obama got 64% of white men and 49% of white women in Utah.

*Obama got 55% of the total white vote in Utah.

*Obama got 70% of white voters ages 18-29 in Utah.

*Obama got 60% of white voters ages 30-44 in Utah.

*Obama got 53% of white voters ages 45-59 in Utah.

*Obama got 64% of white men and 56% of white women in Vermont.

*Obama got 60% of the total white vote in Vermont.

*Obama got 63% of white men in Wisconsin.

*Obama got 54% of the total white vote in Wisconsin.


Even in states he lost:

*Obama got 55% of white men in California.

*Obama got 45% of the total white vote in California, to Hillary's 46%

*Obama got 63% of white voters ages 18-29 in California.

*Obama got 57% of white men in Connecticut

*Obama got 48% of the total white vote in Connecticut, to Hillary's 49%

*Obama got 49% of white men in Massachusetts, to Hillary's 48%.

*Obama got 57% of white voters ages 18-29 in Missouri.

*Obama got 63% of white voters ages 18-29 in New York.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660890/

Note well:

No poll information collected for: Alaska, Colorado, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Washington, and Wyoming.

States full of white people, most of which Obama won. :idea:

[DontTreadOnMe]

1. I can't say it enough times...

so who is in first place right now?

[anonymous171]

2. Why can't Clinton connect with these white voters?

[Oleladylib]

7. she does very well, thank you!

[anonymous171]

8. Why is she losing the white vote in those states then?

[Oleladylib]

10. she isn't...It's not black and white...it's pretty grey here.

[XemaSab]

16. Where's that?

:shrug:

[ErinBerin84]

3. I'm going to channel...

Pat Buchanan: "What is the MATTER with BARACK OBAMA that these white guys WON'T VOTE FOR HIM!" haha.

[stray cat]

19. channeling Pat Buchanan - scary! But you do it accurately.

Can you mimic his look that makes Bull Dogs look cute?

[EffieBlack]

29. But then it's "What's the MATTER with those black voters that they won't vote for HILLARY?"

[sandnsea]

4. CA, PA, OH, MA, NY

We're supposed to elect her because she won those 5 "big states". It's crazy. I bet if you really got into all the numbers from day one, you'd find she won the vote of old women on social security and way too much has been extrapolated from that.

[Oleladylib]

9. Thank you and if you are right...we'll take her all the way to the WH

make sure YOU don't trip crossin' the street!

[anonymous171]

11. But she can't win the white vote.

[XemaSab]

15. Looking at the cross tabs

Hillary does very well among white women, and the older you get the more likely you are to support her.

I wouldn't quite say it's old women on social security, but I would say it's a stereotype with some truth to it.

[sandnsea]

21. That's also her under $50,000 vote

So many more older women are turning out to vote, that I think they're skewing some of these numbers. I keep forgetting that seniors are on "fixed" incomes, sometimes because social security is all they have, most times because they don't want to pay a lot of taxes. The way vast majority fix their incomes to below $50,000 a year. People can think she's getting the lower income single mom vote, when she's really getting a wealthy retired woman with her home paid for who doesn't need more than a couple thousand a month to do quite well.

[Taxmyth]

18. 5 Big States = Lots of Electoral Votes

Those 5 States give a candidate MORE THAN 1/2 of what's needed to be elected.

[sandnsea]

23. And a Dem will take them anyway n/t

[Taxmyth]

24. Only one Dem can take them

The other one hasn't proven that yet.

[sandnsea]

30. WA, IA, MN, WI, VT, IL, CT, DE, MD, ME

I guess Hillary couldn't take all of them if she were the nominee? I wish people would think ahead a month and realize what their words now will make them look like then.

[Liberal Gramma]

5. The "Obama doesn't get the white vote" meme is a myth

perpetrated by either the Clinton camp to strengthen her case with the SD's or the Republicans to explain his "loss" after they steal the election.

[Alexander]

6. Obama didn't lose Connecticut or Missouri.

[XemaSab]

14. Dammit, you're right

:banghead:

[Alexander]

20. You still have 9 minutes to edit your OP and change it.

[Cha]

12. Instead of listening to hilary lies..I

hope the SuperDees can figure this out.

[Andy823]

13. Obama should be

Running a TV ad with these figures!

[stray cat]

17. Thanks for gathering the real stats instead of the media spin

[Avalux]

22. Hillary's campaign has been trying to make Obama the BLACK candidate since Iowa.

Her win in PA has given her another opportunity, which will FAIL. EPIC FAIL Hillary.

[NJSecularist]

25. Seems like a bunch of cherrypicked data.

Combined with an inflated total from rethugs, who will vote for McCain in the general.

[stray cat]

26. Maybe if he just polled the large states that went for Hillary....

The numbers are laid out well - even what age group is being refered to - better and more even handed then most of the media or candidates.

[NJSecularist]

27. She cherry-picked data that suited her theory.

She didn't present the full breadth of the data, just age and gender groups that suited her hypothesis.

[XemaSab]

28. You're right, I did cherry pick data to back up my thesis

Basically, the older white women went for Hillary, and the younger white men went for Obama.

You're welcome to go start a thread with your own cherry-picked data, if you like.

But this idea that Obama's only winning black people and Hillary's winning all the white people? Pure crap.