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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:53 PM Original message |
Axelrod: "Our goal in PA was to limit her margin there. We did that-got it to single digits..." |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. ummm...EXCUSE me.... |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. 9 points.. But close. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I THINK he's being sarcastic. n/t |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. 9.2 is not a double digit win. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. How about 9.24% - Three digits! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I don't hear that as much anymore. I've heard "about 9 points" more and more often since many |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. Stephy said "9 pts." this morning on ABC n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. I heard that. |
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futureliveshere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Nope - 9.2%. C - 54.6 & O - 45.4. Here's the link! |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. In the Hillaryverse, 9.2 rounds to 10, |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Even if it rounded up to 10, it still isn't "double digits" |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. You haven't heard of the round-to-most-favorable-to-me method? |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. was Hills ever good at Math? |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. That's OK, we also hear that she won Texas... |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Hillary's claim of a win in Texas is actually consistent if her belief is that |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. You have been misinformed. It was not. |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. She won PA though Supers are still going toward Obama.. LMFAO.. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Yup. Because SDs see through the Clinton spin. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. His job was to win and they didn't. n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. No. HER job was to win every remaining state with about 65%. PA was her best chance. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. Congrats, bro. You did it... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Cutting her 20+ point lead to under 10 (even by 8/10ths) is remarkable. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Your "girl" needed a HUGE double digit win. She didn't even get LOW double digits! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
84. She blew a 25 point lead in her home state. Be proud. (nt) |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Double digit WIN in PA. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. 9.2 points is NOT a double digit win! Who are you-Karl Rove with "the" math? |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Let's see WHO is laughing AFTER the COnvention. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Hillary and her supporters won't be laughing. They'll be crying. |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. And the sky is also blue, but that doesn't mean we're talking about it. |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. 9.2 is not 10% |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. Except that it wasn't 10%. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Sure it is. I see a "9" and a "2" - that looks like two digits to me! |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. NOW we're fighting over decimal point placement. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
63. Dude, seriously, take remedial arithmetic. The decimal is *between* the 9 and the 2. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. What's Obama's goal in the General Election? To keep their loss to single digits there, too? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Um, no. In his memo seen MONTHS ago, he predicted a loss in PA. It wasn't a surprise. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. He should have no trouble predicting his loss to McCain either, if he gets that far, that is |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. If he predicted a loss to McCain he would've have run for president. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Only the Obamaites would be proud of predicting a 9+ loss. lol |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Stop with the insults. He correctly predicted a loss in PA as well as wins in 30 states. If you're |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And yet which candidate consistently has a higher unfavorable rating than favorable? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Favorability is good for popularity contests. This is about beating McCain, not losing by 9+ points |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Best spin of the day: High negatives are actually good. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That's your spin, not mine. Are you and Jenmito related by any chance? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. We're obviously both smarter than you. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Are you retarded? Are you saying that because Hillary beat Obama in one state she was expected to |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. And you're Gods gift to rocket scientists, I suppose (snicker) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Compared to you, yes. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. lol |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. Obama's favorability is tanking since the vetting began |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Why don't you post Hillary's negatives so that we can compare? |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. And Hillary's goal is to win half the amount of states Obama does.. |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. You and I are SO on the same wavelength! I just posted pretty much the same thing! eom |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. That's not something you should be proud of! |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Keep it moving. Supporting Barack Obama is not something YOU should be proud of. eom |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I see you didn't respond to my post below. You unable? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Being on the same wavelength with you, journalist, makes my night! |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. his goal of losing florida by a landslide is a step in the right direction. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. Obama surrogates NEED TO MENTION SINGLE DIGITS. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. They are. Even members of the MSM are now doing so. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
62. Barack Obama: "Winning is 50+plus one" (regarding NC) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. He was being magnanimous. Hey-why don't YOU be the only Hillary supporter to |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Magnanmious about what? He was setting the bar for NC |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. By not spinning. He was NOT setting the bar. That's Hillary's specialty. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. Saying "50 plus 1" is winning in NC but losing PA by 9 is "winning" is not spin? |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. here is the video if anyone is interested: |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. This reminds me of Bush's "soft bigotry of low expectations." |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. His goal is to win the nomination. He predicted which states he'd WIN against Hillary and which |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. That's all they needed |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. That was their big goal? to get their ass kicked by 9 points in an important swing state? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. It was their expectation, which he was right about. Hillary, on the other hand, expected to |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. He spent $16 million to lose? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. He spent it to keep it within single digits-which he did. He was down by 30 many months ago. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. He was down 4-6 two months ago. He spent $16 million to lose by 9? |
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Mick426 (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
58. Clinton swindled PA. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. Obama on NC just yesterday: "Winning is 50 plus one". |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. You can say that a million times. It doesn't change the fact that he kept her margin within single |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. You made that out of thin air |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. No I didn't. Obama won many states with 60%+. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. There are no caucuses in the general election |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. He bankrupted Hillary in the process. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Yup! Very smart of him to make her spend money where she couldn't afford to! |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. And thus far |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. I love the smell of vindication--I said as much |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. EXACTLY. How could Hillary supporters not understand that?! |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
82. Oh Yeah! That Axelrod is a real genius alright. He pushed a 10pt win... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. You mean a 25 point loss into a 9.2 pt loss. In her home state. (nt) |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Why Gore lost Tennessee |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. "...the greatest black thing since white sliced bread?" |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Negative as usual and predicted. You all thought BHO would *win* PA and he did not... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Who all thought Obama would win? That is a very stupid thing to say. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. And you're a filthy mouthed loser. What office are you a MGR off? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. WTF? |
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pilar007 (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Hillary was always slated to win PA..... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. welcome to du, but I gotta tell'ya, anyone that thought the numbers would not tighten? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Um, he told the truth. It's a BIG difference between the psychology of "double digit win" and |
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lolpop4 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
89. 55-45, Clinton won by ten. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. She won by 9 and lost the nomination |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
90. I guess you have to spin it |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Um, Hillary said HERSELF that she "won by double digits like the media said I needed to do." |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
93. It's actually 9.1% - same rounding error that moves 9 to 10 moves 9.1 to 9.2 |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Thanks for that! |
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