NBC Poll Kerry/Edwards 49%-Smirky/Snarly 41%

[Beetwasher]

First Glance - The NBC poll

Following wall-to-wall veepstakes coverage for Kerry-Edwards coming out of a long holiday weekend, a poll taken last night for NBC News by Princeton Survey Research and aired this morning on TODAY shows Kerry-Edwards beating Bush-Cheney 49% to 41%, with Nader-Camejo at 4%. President Bush's job approval rating is 45%, with 48% disapproving. Vice President Cheney's rating is 44% approve, 43% disapprove. Sample size is 504 registered voters, with a margin of error of +/- 5 points.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com//id/3626796/

The Gallup poll that was posted is propoganda and a load of crap. This poll conducted by NBC is a better more indicative poll, even thought they too usually have Bush lean, so this is even worse news for Bushco.

[Kadie]

1. Smirky/Snarly. Bwahahahahahahahaha

Thanks for the morning laugh.

[Clowny]

2. Haha

That is just great

[spooky3]

4. welcome to DU, Clowny!

[spooky3]

3. We just have to keep up the KE-mentum!

Thank goodness it's not Joementum!

[CompassionateLiberal]

5. "Smirky/Snarly" --- Love That!!

What a perfect name for those two. Now I want a bumper sticker with these names and a line drawn across them.

[lancdem]

6. What Gallup poll?

[Beetwasher]

7. It's Posted Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x571138

It has Bush approval at 53% and the race a dead heat. It was taken over 3 weeks for some inexplicable reason. Gallup, AFAIC, is nothing but propoganda and they can't be trusted.

[lancdem]

12. And the first half of the poll took place

during the Reagan bounce. BTW, if your approval rating's 53 percent, you're supposed to be comfortably ahead, not in a tie with the challenger. That's weird.

[Beetwasher]

14. Exactly! Gallup Is Completely Transparent in Their Whoring

It's sad really, they used to be the most respected organization around, and now they are bending over backwards to skewer their data...

[tandot]

8. Thanks, Beetwasher. Smirky/Snarly ... that is f*cking funny

I think I have to put that on a bumper sticker:

"Smirky and Snarly - working hard for
the Haves and Have Mores"

[cmf]

9. Smirky/Snarly - I'm going to use that from now on!! n/t

[theprisoner]

17. I like Smirk and Sneer more...

[meti57b]

10. EXCELLENT NEWS!! ... and I suppose we are going to start hearing ....

"yeah, but that isn't very good, they were supposed to get a 15 point bounce"

[StClone]

11. Chimp and Cheney will never KEtch-up

Kerry/Edawrds is smoothering these chimpinals like a order a fries!

[spooky3]

13. LOL!

[CompassionateLiberal]

15. Don't You mean Freedom Fries, baby!

[RummyTheDummy]

16. Actually it's probably more like a 10 or 11 point lead

If you take the Hobbit in a cheap suit out of the race.

[Beetwasher]

18. Actually, It's Probably More Like

the 15 pts predicted by the Chimp's campaign, especially considering NBC's pro-bush bias...

[GOPBasher]

19. That's great!

Let's keep up the pressure.

[yellowcanine]

20. Edwards selection bounce or tipping point? Bushies will dismiss this as an

Edwards bounce - but it may be a tipping point. I get the feeling that many voters were waiting to see if Kerry had the cojones to select Edwards, who obviously has more charisma as a campaigner. Now that he has, many have made their decision that Kerry has what they want in a president. Remember the 1992 race when Clinton was actually trailing both Bush and Perot. Then Perot dropped out - Clinton went up and stayed up even when Perot later came back in. With the Edwards selection you could almost feel the voters letting out the breath that they had been holding. Of course I could have it all wrong. Maybe it is just a bounce. But where is Bush going to get a similar bounce? Not unless he drops Cheney and convinces Powell or McClain to run with him. And that would cause the fundies to bolt big time. I think Bush is Cheneyed.

[Nicholas_J]

21. Average boost after the opposition running mate is named

Cliton got a ten percent boost after naming Gore, Gore got a 5 percent boost after naming Lieberman. It doesnt mean much unless polls start showing boosts of 15 to 20 percent for Kerry/Edwards.

[Beetwasher]

22. That's Nonsense

That 15-20% is a GOP talking point and it's bullshit to make it seem bad if they don't get that bump.

This is the first poll too, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually DOES get close to a 15 pt bump.

[Nicholas_J]

23. A ten percent a boost is AVERAGE

And has happened after the running mate was selected everytine. Whoever annouces get s a boost whether it is Republican first, or Democrat. Sorry, it is absolutely nothing extraordinary for Kerry to get the kind of boost he has gotten after selecting Edwards. He would have gotten roughly the same boost no matter who he chose. In fact ,the average lead caused by the announing of the running mate was not ten percent as I earlier stated, but actually is 15 percent, so the boost that the campaign got from Edwards is roughly half of the average. So it simply isnt all that much to get excited about. Edwards has not boosted the polls by 15 percent as of today, So he has not given as much of a boost as has occured in the past, on average.

One error on Edwards part regarding Foreign Affairs and National security will wipe out that lead in a day. This has been stated today by virtaully every American media source, Liberal or conservative, and has been discussed on the major international media outlets of the major European nations (Germany, France, Great Britain, as well as Canada). Iit is rather amusing to hear anyone who brings these facts up about both the history of presidential camapaigns, as well as the analysis of liberal American analysts as well as the very liberal goverment based media outlets of Europe and Canada. Not only is the boost from Edwards nothing that is extraordinary, but it has been noted by ABC and other television media that the boost Edwards gives is rather shaky, and any blunders in dealing with issus of foreign affairs and national security, which the major media and foreign media have both strongly sugested is an area that Cheney will more than likely perform far better than Edwards in, wil cause any lead that Edwards strong points has caused to evaporate rather rapidly.

No amount of beleiving that Edwards has more experience than Cheney does will make that fact real, and in fact, smugly believing it is more likely to cause problems than accepting the fact and planning for it.

Edwards gave Kerry no more of a boost than has occured in the past, in fact a bit less, as noted Gore gave Clinton a ten percent boost, Liberman gave Gore a five percent boost, but in the past other selection have given more of a boost,during the first two days after the announcement.These as, noted noted have been an average of fifteen percent. Kerry got as much of a boost from his major wins in the first half of the primaries from January through March.

The boost that other campaigns got were during the first day or two after the announcement of the nominations, so as it stands, the boost that Edwards has caused since yesterday is what has to be compared to past campaigns.