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FuriousMNDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:11 PM
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Yesterday we found out who will win.
With Kerry's pick of John Edwards as his running mate, I am ready to project GEORGE WALKER BUSH and RICHARD BRUCE CHENEY the winners of the election.

Hey - I'll vote for Kerry/Edwards, but a young ex-trial lawyer cannot possibly help Kerry. Budsh and Cheney will attack Edwards like crazy.

Sure, Bush is much worse (hey, that's why I'll vote Kerry), but with FAUX News, who will care?
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:14 PM
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1. I respectfully disagree
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:14 PM
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2. Bull corn! (eom)
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:16 PM
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4. Not everybody watches Fox News; they couldn't kill Clinton
could they? And Edwards is supposed to be every bit as good as Clinton. As a native Southerner I think it is a great choice.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:18 PM
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5. Me thinks your wrong fellow Wellstonian Minnesotan.
:spank:

Edwards will chew Cheney up and spit him out. Edwards will energize this campaign like no other *then my man Dean could have* Edwards has mass appeal to independents and moderate R's. Edwards position on trade will endear him to Unions all over America. Edwards personal friendship with Kucinich will help in the end as well.

Get ready to eat yer words me friend. :hi:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:18 PM
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6. I am ready to project
That you are wrong

As a trial lawyer, Edwards fought the good fight. You see, I am middle class America so I am the underdog in this administration.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:19 PM
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7. For every person who feels as you do, 1000 feel the opposite.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:21 PM
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8. Ok, i was wondering where the towel throwing went to...
... and now its back. Good to see that the old "give up and go home" dems are a live and well.

Forget the fact that there is an unprecedented get out the vote movement going on in this nation.

Forget the fact that there is a massive register to vote movement going on in this nation.

Forget the fact that chimpy and crashcart's numbers are in the toilet including from Fox news. (only holdout today is Gallup and they are using 3 week old data)

Forget the fact that F-9/11 is having a huge impact.

Forget the fact that entertainers are turning out in droves to lend the Dems support (Stern, Imus and a big chunk of Hollywood) and therefore getting more coverage for the Dem ticket.

Forget the fact that Europe takes every opportunity to lend its thoughts on chimpy (International out cry against bush)

And I could go on... but what's the point? With Edwards on board all is lost... or so you say.

"Always with the negative waves, Moriarty. Have a little faith will 'ya" -- Oddball in "Kelly's Heroes"
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:21 PM
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9. This is going to be a tight, tough race ...
And while I don't think Edwards adds much of anything, I'm by no means ready to concede to Bush/Cheney just because he's the VP choice.

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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:23 PM
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10. how the hell can he hurt kerry?
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 12:35 PM by Caution
first off, the man is 51 years old which doesnt make him particularly young, secondly more than half of the presidents we have had have been lawyers, thirdly he's intelligent, successful, comes from a working class background, has worked his whole life to help people and is good looking to boot.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:23 PM
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11. No offense, but your analysis is flawed...
as far as "trial Lawyers" go, just where do the R's go when they want to sue someone, the Dry Cleaners? This is a strawman argument, and has never held water with anyone that has reality on his/her side.

The GOP has bashed trial lawyers for so long, it fits well with the "liberla media" garbage as well. As fo FAUX, who watches it anyway? They have spent years pumping up their numbers, and haven't got a clue as to what is going on. The administration is in implosion mode, with just a few pulls and p
I don't think bush has a prayer, and there is no argument with the "trial Lawyer" methodology either. I think most Americans now see the bush/cheney team as a bunch of thieves that never earned an honest dollar in their lives. This is why the "privledged" argument will fall flat as well. Can you see bush talking about Edwards or kerry being "privledged"? He'd be struck by lightning before he could finish the sentence....:D
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:38 PM
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12. This is funny! Hahaha!
No one is going to beat Kerry, now, with Edwards as his running mate. Sorry, not gonna happen. Edwards will take the South; that's why they picked him. And isn't he a fine looking man, too?

And I'm PROUD that he's a trial lawyer. These guys have gotten a bad name from the same place liberals got a bad name: right wing media. Trial lawyers protect the little guys. Like you and me, remember?
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:52 PM
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13. Please stop watching Fox. Edwards is 51--he may not be as old as
Reagan, but he is not "young"
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Seth Gecko Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:59 PM
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14. Republicans will attack our candidates????
oh man, why didn't someone tell us?
We better hurry and ask repukes for permission and who they want us to run because we can't have them attacking our boy.
HAHAHHAHAHAH, now I see the reasoning of our cowardly Congress.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:10 PM
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15. The attack dogs would have made Clark, Graham, Gephardt look worse
than Edwards. Clark would have been called a flipflopping disgruntled incompetent who got fired during the last administration with no legislative experience who never held elective office, Graham's long record would have provided lots of fodder including votes differing from Kerry and he would have been made out to be a total nutcase, and Gephardt would have been described as an out of touch doddering weakling controlled by union bosses. So anyone who thinks that Edwards is going to sink the ticket needs to realize that Kerry probably saw even more problems than assets with the other VP candidates.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:21 PM
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16. Pretty good predictions. n/t
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:26 PM
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17. Hmmm, nice ... Edwards was the 'least flawed' ?
That's reassuring. :eyes:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:29 PM
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18. Sometimes politicians have to look at things like that.
They know that the opposition will use anything, so they have to think of it that way.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 02:48 PM
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19. Some advice, AngryMNDem: Find an online interactive electoral vote map...
The L.A. Times has a good one, but you have to register -- it's free, and I recommend it.
http://www.latimes.com/services/site/premium/access-registered.intercept

Once you do that, fiddle around for a few minutes with all the slam-dunk Democratic states, and then the "in-play" states. Tally them up. You'll quickly see that the November election will probably be very close. Kerry/Edwards are very much in the hunt, and, if the U.S. has an honest, above-board election come November, there is an excellent chance that the Democrats will take back the White House, just for starters.

I can also assure you that Edwards adds a **big** punch to the Democratic ticket -- he is a whirlwind, tireless campaigner, has very broad appeal to many ages and regional blocs, and will help the ticket immeasurably in the Midwest and Southern states.

BushCo will be attacking *anybody* the Democrats nominate -- like this is something new? And Faux will be running them down, just like they always do -- no surprises there, either.

But watch how well Kerry and Edwards do on the campaign trail. All you have to do is support them, and ignore all the propaganda.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 02:56 PM
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20. Pttttttt- I say that with some hard work- Kerry/Edwards takes it!!!!
Begone bad vibrations!!!!!!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 03:20 PM
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21. Cheney's middle name is Bruce? Who knew? But I digress. I disagree with
your assessment. I think Edwards was the choice of most Democrats and the choice that Pubs fear the most. When voters hear the details of the cases that Edwards won, his status as a trial lawyer will be an asset. Just the one case of the little girl who had her intestines sucked out by a pool drain will sway many of the doubters.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 03:48 PM
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22. Fellow MNer, I respectfully disagree
I never liked Edwards (or Kerry, for that matter) very much during the primaries, but the combination of the two of them will truly be a breath of fresh air compared to the two DOAs the Repubs have at the top of their ticket.

I'm still pretty lukewarm about the whole ticket, but Edwards is at least not afraid to speak about class differences in this country, which IMHO is the REAL issue that sets the Dems apart from the Repubs.
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