Hillary Clinton Surges In New National Poll: Clinton 50 - McCain 41; Obama 46 - McCain 44

[BobbyVan]

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/28/new-national-head-to-head-numbers/

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2004378465&zsection_id=2003956730&slug=appresidentialraceappoll&date=20080428

Poll: Clinton leads McCain

By LIZ SIDOTI

Associated Press Writer

Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.

The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. This Is Shaping Up To Be A Very Interesting Race

It would be nice to discuss it among fellow Democrats without rancor...

[Texas Hill Country]

26. yes, yes it is... and yes, yes it would.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. I'm Tired Of Fighting On This Board

It serves no purpose...

You know the old saying that winning an argument on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics...

PEACE

DSB

[PBS Poll-435]

2. Wow...

I would assume that Hillary's lead over McCain is outside the MOE.

I can't imagine a they would publish those numbers with a 4.5 or higher margin of error.

[lisa58]

3. McCain is really a weak candidate...

...I expect his numbers go lower after an actual dem is nominated

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Respect Him For His Service

But he really is far to the right and not a maverick... He's no Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins... And the fact he called his wife the C-word made me really disappointed in him because I respected him as a man even though I didn't like his politics at all...

Why would you call a woman the c-word? It's the little things that define a person...

My business partner called a woman the C-word (not to her face) after she cheated us out of $1,200.00 but even then I thought it was a horrible thing to call somebody...

[SoCalDem]

4. And of course no one would be manipulating the polls to keep people "involved" and buying magazines

now would they :evilgrin:

Pollsters can make polls "say" whatever they want them to..wording of the questions , polling sample size, time of polling.. so many variables and so many possibilities :)

[rodeodance]

11. of course that would apply to any pollster.

.....Pollsters can make polls "say" whatever they want them to..wording of the questions , polling sample size, time of polling.. so many variables and so many possibilities :)

[hill_win_2008]

12. Keep that in mind for the next Obama poll

When there is another poll showing Obama winning, keep your post in mind.

[SoCalDem]

13. I always do.. that's why I rely on the AVERAGE of ALL the polls

RCP

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

[anonymous171]

6. Obama is getting hit with a media blitz, of course his numbers would be lower.

[otohara]

23. He's Taking A Pounding

Clinton dancing on the ceiling.

[rodeodance]

28. yah gotta wonder why Wright went out there when this issue was essentially dead.

[ObamaKerryDem]

33. I don't know if I even believe that poll..

or at least that the results of it would actually turn into reality. They can say whatever they want, but the truth is that Hillary still has more negatives than Obama..she not only has like half the base mad at her, but has a deep rooted reputation (however fair or unfair). If people think the RW smear machine wouldn't target her too, they're dead wrong. They'd still probably turn out, if only just to vote against her. There's no way she'd attract the amount of independents or cross over republicans that Barack would..

Certain people would just rather McCain face her than Barack..and it shows..

[speedoo]

7. Nothing about that poll anywhere, except on the page linked by the OP.

Sure would like to know some more, before concluding that Hillary is "surging".

[BobbyVan]

10. Here's another link

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004378465_appresidentialraceappoll.html

[speedoo]

17. No real additional info in that link.

But thanks anyway.

[BobbyVan]

18. TPM link clearly shows the trend for HRC

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/apipsos_hillary_performing_bet.php

[speedoo]

21. So Hillary is up 2 points in two weeks. And Obama is up 1 in the same poll.

You call a net gain of 1 point relative to Obama a surge?

I call it meaningless.

[rodeodance]

22. she does trend upward. --that is the import point--while Obama has a 'ceiling" for whatever reason

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/apipsos_hillary_performing_bet.php


A new AP/Ipsos poll shows Hillary Clinton performing better than Barack Obama in a national match-up against John McCain:

Clinton (D) 50%, McCain (R) 41%
Obama (D) 46%, McCain (R) 44%

For comparison, here's the previous AP/Ipsos poll from April 10:

Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 45%
Obama (D) 45%, McCain (R) 45%

[oasis]

8. Super delegate k&r

[invictus]

9. I guess the Hillary-McCain/DLC-Republican tag team has taken a toll. Obama will still win though.

The biggest losers in this election are the rotten DLC power couple Hillary and Bill Clinton. All Democrats have seen what a sham they are.

[rodeodance]

27. and Hillary is Rising despite the DNC and weak Dean.

[ProSense]

14. Another surge:

That's the finding of a new Rasmussen poll released today: It says that 34% of Dems nationwide think she should bail.

That's only up two points since earlier in April, but it's up 12 from March, so the number is clearly growing. Meanwhile, twenty-two percent of Dems think Obama should drop out.

link

[BobbyVan]

16. Wow - wouldn't it be great if only Democrats voted!

:sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

20. Its Obama signing up those "Dems for the Day" tactic that draws many Repugs into our primary.......

"We give them two forms - one to change their registration now for the primary and one so they can switch back later," BHO volunteer revealing the true goals of the campaign


http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/tenbedroom-house-now-home-for-obamas-volunteer-army/2008/03/20/1205602581838.html

[ProSense]

29. Wouldn't it be great if this was called the Any Party primary? Hillary's performance in the GE is

irrelevant because she cannot win the primary.

What's her argument: "I can't beat Obama, but I can beat McCain"?

[grrr050]

35. You can say the same thing about Obama..........

Who cannot focus on beating McCain because he cant beat Hillary. And dont tell he's much coser to winning than her. Both Obama and HRC will not and canot reach the magic elected number of delegates without being dragged into the finish line by superdeleagte numbers.

[BobbyVan]

49. You've got it backwards. We have a primary to pick the Dem who will be strongest in the GE.

[shayes51]

15. Love it!

[rodeodance]

19. S-USA Indiana Poll: Clinton By 9

SUSA IN Poll: Clinton By 9


The latest SUSA Indiana poll:

8 days until votes are counted, Hillary Clinton finishes ahead of Barack Obama, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for WHAS-TV in Louisville and WCPO-TV in Cincinnati.

Clinton leads among whites 56-39 (87% of the vote), Obama among African Americans 78-16 (10% of the vote). On election day, Obama will win A-As by 90-10. The issue is, as it has been for a while, will Obama lose whites by 20 points or more.

http://www.talkleft.com/

[speedoo]

24. That poll is actually BAD news for Hillary.

Same poll two weeks earlier had her up 17.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=94f2d214-62da-4ca1-943e-18e1815071c7&x=71338,2

[ProSense]

30. Yeah, dropping 8 points is good news in when that fact is ignore it. n/t

[Robbins]

25. Reality

Obama has been the one consently hit.He has Mccain and The Republicans,The CLinton Machine,and the
MSM running all stop against him.Of course this can help Hillary In some polls.But conisder
who Republicans are bad mouthing.It Is not Hillary but Obama.Obama's favorable numbers mirror
Mccain.More people dislike Hillary than like her.

Now If SurveyUSA Is right and the other polls are wrong It should be pointed out Obama hs picket up
some.This would mean she will likely win Indiana by a somewhat smaller margain In Indiana but considering Obam will likely take North Carolina by Double digets a smaller take of delgate from
Indiana than In PA will not help her very much.

[rodeodance]

31. oh, gee poor obama and the media excuse once again!!

[rodeodance]

34. **Obama lead cut in HALF-- in NC.

**Obama lead cut in HALF---



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Presidential race narrows in NC

Raleigh, N.C. – Hillary Clinton has cut Barack Obama’s North Carolina lead in half, according to the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.
Obama still has a solid 51-39 advantage over Clinton in the state, but his lead had ranged from 18-25 points in PPP’s previous five North Carolina polls.

The bulk of the movement in the race over the last week has come from white voters.

The survey last week showed Obama pulling to within five points of Clinton with that
group, but her lead now is back up at 56-35.
“Barack Obama is certainly still the run away favorite in North Carolina,” said Dean
Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “But she’s made some inroads since
Pennsylvania and the race could end up being closer than might have been expected.”

[speedoo]

36. "Obama still has a solid 51-39 advantage over Clinton"

He's still up 12.

[rodeodance]

37. yes, but cut in half .

[BobbyVan]

38. So I guess that one is "bad news" for Obama, right???

[speedoo]

39. I'm still trying to figure out where the "surge" in your misleading OP is.

You know, the one that's based on a whopping one point improvement for Hillary relataive to Obama.

[BobbyVan]

40. The race will ultimately be against McCain - that's where HRC is surging!

She has opened up a 9 point lead against McCain; Obama's 2 point lead is within the margin of error.

Two weeks ago, HRC led McCain by 3 points, and Obama and McCain were tied.

[speedoo]

41. She is not "surging" relative to Obama, considering all the polls.

Hillary is up 2.2 points vs. McCain:

http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Pres-GE-MvC.php

Obama is up 1.3 points vs. McCain:

http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Pres-GE-MvO.php

McCain is sinking vs. both Hillary and Obama. Hillary's .9 point advantage over Obama in this respect is negligible. Hillary is not "surging".

[rodeodance]

42. Hillary has the upward trend. while Obama is stagnet

[speedoo]

43. Nonsense.

Obama is trending up vs. McCain. He is no more "stagnet" than Hillary is.

[BobbyVan]

44. Hillary is at 50 % nationally against McCain; Obama is stuck at 46%

This is all about winning in November, right?

[Aloha Spirit]

45. Or HRC is behind McCain nationally by 3 and Obama is tied.... clutching at polls ....

[Dbdmjs1022]

46. You forgot to mention the part in this poll where Obama leads Hillary by 3.

[speedoo]

47. The OP is misleading. There is no Hillary "surge".

Pathetic selective poll watching.

[musicblind]

51. The title was very clear. It said surge in "new national poll" not in "all polls" it as poll

specific. It THEN, in the headline, went on to state the numbers it was talking about as being verses McCain and not each other. The headline was very blatantly discussing a particular poll. It made no bones about it.

[BobbyVan]

48. It's a national race against the Republicans, and Hillary is our best chance

Just wait and see what the Rev. Wright media tour does to Obama in Indiana and North Carolina

[ElsewheresDaughter]

50. that's the facts