If Hill thinks she can win the GE, why won't she run as an Independent?

[stevietheman]

After all, she's not getting the Democratic nomination, and there's no way she can steal it without crashing the Democratic Party.

Note: I'm not advocating her run as an Independent, but since she really is in this for herself (obviously), this would seem to be the best choice for her.

Run, Hillary, Run -- but accept the Democrats' choice Barack Obama and move on please.

[Maddy McCall]

1. Because she's a Democrat, and will be the Democratic nominee.

[stevietheman]

2. But that isn't happening... so what's next for her? n/t

n/t

[splat]

6. It's looking increasingly like it's happening

Superdelegates are there to save the party from a candidate who fades at the end and can't win. Even the "announced" ones can switch.

[LakeSamish706]

7. Keep on hoping... Cause if she steals the nomination that way, she won't win anyway.. n/t

[bhikkhu]

22. That's the argument, but its "not happening"

Its been around for long enough and infallibly predicted for long enough, but the odds keep getting longer. So "decreasingly" fits, rather than "increasingly".

All the predictions of dire disaster have failed to move the SD's, and more importantly have failed to move the voters. Without something new to turn the tide, HRC's chances fade. (Wright giving a speech is not "something new". If the endlessly repeated sound-bytes didn't hurt Obama, a fine interview and a brilliant speech won't either).

[LakeSamish706]

4. No she is not a Democrat, but nice try.. She was a Republican in the early days...

and has remained one...

[splat]

10. Please... when she was 17, in 1964; in college, her values changed

and she's been a Dem ever since. A lot of people got politicized (and moved away from their parents' values) in the late '60s. Grew their hair long, too!

[LakeSamish706]

12. Old habits are sometimes hard to break, and in this case its so very true. n/t

[splat]

15. Your parents' habits aren't so hard to break when you're in college

Stop making this nonsense up.

[LakeSamish706]

24. There is no nosense to make up, Hillary doesn't win fairly and will not win the GE.. n/t

[splat]

27. Actually, she probably will win the GE

[LakeSamish706]

28. No actually she won't, and lets leave it at that.. n/t

[splat]

32. No, I'd rather leave it that she will :)

[grantcart]

5. yeah and frogs wear dentures too

[TwilightGardener]

3. Because every parasite needs a host. She and Bill are the tapeworms of the Democratic Party.

[Double T]

8. Why should ANYONE accept BO? BO's judgment was ALWAYS questionable..........

and NOW his lack of judgment has been confirmed......AGAIN! Be assured HRC will win the nomination and YOU should accept HER as your candidate!

[stevietheman]

13. That won't be occurring. Certainly you can adjust to this reality. Obama is the nominee. n/t

n/t

[LakeSamish706]

16. Theres no fucking way in hell I would accept her as the nominee... n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. Why don't you register as one?

[LisaL]

11. How do you know she isn't getting the nomination?

[stevietheman]

17. Because Obama is the presumptive nominee. Everyone knows this.

Except those who don't know math, of course.

[splat]

20. There is no such thing as 'presumptive nominee'; there are only candidates

[stevietheman]

25. Obama is indeed the nominee, as there is no way for Hillary to win it.

It's that simple.

[splat]

33. When Hillary wins it, you just keep saying that

Superdelegates exist to rescue the party from a candidate who's tanking despite early wins. The system was invented after the George McGovern debacle.

[BenDavid]

14. excuse me but the tide is turning against obama in the black

community. One of the reasons is simple. the preacher wright has come across as being the voice of the black churches in america and many, many blacks are upset they are being labled right along with wright and his preaching of hate and intolerance.

When obama is defeated for the nomination there will not be a riot as al sharton and doug wilder predicts it will be. What sane person would say there will be riots? Maybe Al and Jesse need to find how why it is that obama has distanced hisself from both of them?

Once HRC is the nomination there will be much healing to do but it will not be as messy as you obama folks say it will be. All the haters in the obama camp will be seen for what they realy were and that is players who enjoy stirring up crap i e race baiting the clintons and blaming it on them...Many blacks are now seeing this is true, and once HRC is the nominee and she calls together all black leaders and latino leaders and white leaders there will be a united party.....

So, to you haters, there will be no riots......

[stevietheman]

19. Obama is the presumptive nominee. Hillary has no choice but to accept that.

And that goes for her supporters too. The math doesn't lie.

[LakeSamish706]

21. Bullshit... Just because the MSM plays this crap over and over again....

The only way that Hillary wins is by stealing the nomination.. And then she doesn't win, cause no one will vote for her in the GE.... I would stay home and so would many others... No way she wins...

[goclark]

31. HillBill can win without us~ we don't count

and one of the main reasons I would never vote for them is because the thought of having a Bride and Groom running our country gives me chills.

Get the visual please.

Can you imagine two desks in the oval office?

[goclark]

29. Earth to BenDavid ~ we are not turning anywhere against Obama

We are turning dramatically against the HILLBILLdirty tricks and racist stunts to be President at any cost.

I am African American and all that I have heard is how easy it will be not to vote for HillBill IF they are selected.

Everyone that I have talked to says they will vote for others in various races on the ticket but no HillBill.

So, start gathering all the votes that you need in other places but they will not get African American support.

[Skwmom]

18. Because independents will NOT VOTE for her. Have you seen her approval ratings among

independents?

[stevietheman]

23. You're probably right. But if she steals the Dem nomination, she'll lose almost...

half the Democratic vote. Either way, she's a dead duck.

[goclark]

30. Help me again~ since she walks like a Repub,talks like one

and slames her opponent like one,that's all the proof that we need that she is a Republican.

My question is, why wouldn't John McCain ask HillBill to be his running mate?

Isn't that legal?

[splat]

34. That you think longtime Dems are Repugs says more about you than about them

Repugs want to make the rich richer. Got it?

[goclark]

35. I've got it alright and so does John McCain

her really good buddie, "John McCain has experience, I have experience..."

I have never heard a Democratic candidate keep up the love fest with a Republican in the heat of the battle while working to destroy their own party.

She is a closet Republican and I got it from "day one."

End of discussion.

[LakeSamish706]

26. No mater how you slice this, the Hillary group are screwed... She will not win the GE...

because there will be so many Democrats against her and so many African Americans against her... It ain't happening... So you better get behind Barack if you want a true Democrat in the White House, or say hello to President McCain.... There is no way in hell Hillary can win fairly, and she is not going to win by cheating.

[Enrique]

36. because if she loses she will run again next time

so will Obama if he loses.