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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:40 AM
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Video: Howard Dean and Colorado Governor Bill Owens Debate...ACLU today.
http://www.aclu.org/Conference/Conference.cfm?ID=16072&c=255
The debate can be seen in webcast at this link, I believe.
http://www.aclu.org/

SNIP..."Howard Dean and Colorado Governor Bill Owens Debate Civil Liberties and the War on Terror at the
July 8, 2004

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

SAN FRANCISCO— At the American Civil Liberties Union’s Annual Membership Conference today, Colorado Governor Bill Owens will debate former presidential candidate and governor of Vermont Howard Dean on civil liberties and the war on terrorism, an issue that will be prominent this election season.

Gov. Dean, who is the founder and honorary chair of Democracy for America, has urged Congress to reconsider aspects of the Patriot Act and other anti-terror initiatives that give the government overly broad investigative and surveillance powers.

"After September 11, the Ashcroft Justice Department took advantage of the climate of fear and adopted a series of anti-terror tactics that go far beyond protecting our country and erode the rights of average Americans," said Gov. Dean. "We should be rolling these back, but instead Attorney General Ashcroft is trying to build on them with his 'Victory Act' proposal. He must not be allowed to compromise our freedoms any further.”

I can not figure out the time. One spot says 4:00, the other says noon to 3:30, which is very long IMHO



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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:58 AM
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1. noon to 3:30 p.m. PST
3 and 1/2 hours does sound long, unless there are other participants.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:05 PM
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2. But if you look at the link and choose view webcast...
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 12:08 PM by madfloridian
There are others on in the pop up window. I heard 4 to 5:30, just not sure.

Found this at the program link. Might be right. Almost the last event.
"noon - 3:30 pm Balancing National Security and Liberty: Keeping America Safe and Free – Plenary Lunch
Speakers include a keynote address by former National Security Council member and author of the book, Against All Enemies, Richard Clarke; Coleen Rowley, FBI whistleblower and one of Time Magazine's 2002 Persons of the Year; and former U.S. Representative Bob Barr.
Nadine Strossen moderates a discussion with Stanford Law School Dean Kathleen Sullivan, Frank Dunham of the Federal Public Defenders Office and the attorney for Yaser Hamdi, and trial attorney James Brosnahan who represented John Walker Lindh.


4:00 pm - 5:30 pm Debate: Gov. Howard Dean v. Gov. Bill Owens
The former governor of Vermont and sitting governor of Colorado debate one of today's hottest issues: Civil Liberties and the War on Terror.


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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:11 PM
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3. It will be webcast at 3pm EST
I went to the ACLU website and opened the realplayer. They are showing the plenary sessions etc... that is why the broadcast will be so long.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:20 PM
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4. Do you remember when C-Span covered ACLU events?
Especially conferences with names like Richard Clarke and Seymour Hersh? Also Colleen Rowley, among others?

I do. I don't see it listed anywhere at C-Span, and this is the 3rd and last day of the event.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:26 PM
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5. This article says 4:00.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/07/08/EDGG37HHMU1.DTL

The American Civil Liberties Union is holding its annual membership conference through today at the San Francisco Hilton, 333 O'Farrell St.

Highlights include:

-- Panels on government intrusion, personal autonomy and privacy, including "Immigration: Emerging Challenges," moderated by Lucas Guttentag of the ACLU's Immigrant Rights Project, in which journalists, demographers and advocates discuss immigrant communities and the opportunity to build new civil liberties constituencies for the future. (10:30 a.m.)

-- Debate on civil liberties and the war on terror featuring former governor of Vermont and Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean and Chairman of the Republican Governors' Association, Gov. Bill Owens of Colorado. (4 p.m.)

More information: Go to www.aclu.org.

Lucas Guttentag is director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project (www.aclu.org).

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