http://www.aclu.org/Conference/Conference.cfm?ID=16072&c=255The debate can be seen in webcast at this link, I believe.
http://www.aclu.org/SNIP..."Howard Dean and Colorado Governor Bill Owens Debate Civil Liberties and the War on Terror at the
July 8, 2004
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
SAN FRANCISCO— At the American Civil Liberties Union’s Annual Membership Conference today, Colorado Governor Bill Owens will debate former presidential candidate and governor of Vermont Howard Dean on civil liberties and the war on terrorism, an issue that will be prominent this election season.
Gov. Dean, who is the founder and honorary chair of Democracy for America, has urged Congress to reconsider aspects of the Patriot Act and other anti-terror initiatives that give the government overly broad investigative and surveillance powers."After September 11, the Ashcroft Justice Department took advantage of the climate of fear and adopted a series of anti-terror tactics that go far beyond protecting our country and erode the rights of average Americans," said Gov. Dean.
"We should be rolling these back, but instead Attorney General Ashcroft is trying to build on them with his 'Victory Act' proposal. He must not be allowed to compromise our freedoms any further.”I can not figure out the time. One spot says 4:00, the other says noon to 3:30, which is very long IMHO