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Tue Apr-29-08 08:56 AM
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OK, Hillfans explain why SD endorsements keep rolling in to Obama |
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I keep seeing Hillworlders saying that SDs won't go for Obama because he lost PA or because hill's more electable, or most of all because of Wright. Wrong. Since losing PA Obama has picked up over twice as many as hill. And in the last two days, post the Wright-a-thon, he's picked up three: Senator Bingaman, The former chair of the DNC and Rep. Chandler of KY. How does that show SDs fleeing from Obama. And you can expect to see more rolled out every day. The campaign has said that's what they'd do and it sure looks like that's what they're doing.
Obama has more elected SD endorsements than Hillary showing that elected SDs would prefer to run with Obama at the top of the ticket.
Interesting, huh?
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:59 AM
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It's like how in the world did my beautiful wife ever become attracted to homely old me. Some things just cannot be explained.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:02 AM
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2. well, I'm sure you have many sterling qualities and beauty is |
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as they say, in the eye of the beholder. And you're right. Hillfans will avoid this thread as it were kryptonite.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:04 AM
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5. Its because you do numbers, TVOR. Numbers are sexay! |
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:05 AM
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20. lol I wonder the same thing about my wife..... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:03 AM
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:15 AM
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10. Rep Chandler of KY endorsed today |
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which is interesting because Hill will win by a landslide there.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:03 AM
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18. didnt he actually indicate like a month ago? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:04 AM
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4. because they think Obama's more electable |
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I agree with Dean that that's going to be their main criterion.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:07 AM
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6. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face...something Dems are real good at... |
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...they may believe he's more electable, and, quite frankly, they may not like Hillary.
However, the real reason is that in spite of the Dems advantage in numbers, and in spite of being on the correct side of the majority of people on issues, the Dems in power have not yet figured out how and why people vote...they've bought into the transcendence argument, and quite frankly (again) that dog don't hunt.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:17 AM
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12. gee, why do I think that dems who know how to get elected |
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might know more about the issue than you?
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:32 AM
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15. Tell me why we only recently took the House and Senate back... |
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...since 1994 (not including the summer of 2001)? Tell me how good we are at winning elections when we are in the wilderness for 14 years when the majority of people agree with Dems on the issues?
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:04 AM
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19. And that had much to do with Howard Dean's prowess and the current |
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administration's craptasticness.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:24 AM
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24. Still, George Bush was a weak candidate in 2000 yet he won...yeah, I know, |
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he really didn't win...but he was so abysmal it shouldn't have been close. Repukes play the game better, they know how it's played...Dems seem to be a step behind.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:09 AM
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7. Obama's strength with elected SDs is why this race is already over |
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There are 137 undecided DNC Superdelegates left. The other SDs, the elected SDs have basically split evenly, with Obama steadily picking up more support. After the primaries are over, Obama's lead will still be more than the number of undecided DNC members, and the elected SDs will continue to split fairly closely. Unless Clinton starts winning in massive landslides in the final primaries, the gap will simply be too large for the DNC SDs to give her the nomination, and they will flock to Obama.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:16 AM
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11. yeah, that strength is over. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:10 AM
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J/K.
Preplanned events. They already ordered the catering and the DJ.
And the Clowns..., musn't forget about them.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:08 AM
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22. You mean like that Elect Hillary bunch?? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:10 AM
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9. I'm not a Hillary fan but I'll tell you why. |
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Because a lot of Super Delegates are people facing re-election. They need the black base and the young people that Obama has attracted. If Obama wins the primary delegate count and they were to decide to vote against Obama, they would alienate those voters and possibly cost themselves their next election. That and they may just prefer him to Hillary.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:18 AM
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13. Good point, and it makes political sense, even if they vote differently when the time comes |
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It may well be over with a poor showing in the remaining primaries by Obama, but they cannot afford to lose the black base for local elections.
Politics, isn't it special!
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:20 AM
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14. Too many voters despise Hillary, and that makes her unelectable in the GE |
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If Hillary were to become the nominee, many voters would make a point of showing up on election day just to vote aganist her. The SD's know this, and they know what a devastating effect that would have on both the presidential race and the down-ticket races.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:00 AM
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16. nah, I think she's electable |
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both are. but she hasn't earned the nomination.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:07 AM
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21. thank you for being realistic... i would add "yet" to your sentence tho lol |
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 AM
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:11 AM
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23. Two reasons, imo, over and above those who simply believe in the man... |
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1. Obama attracts both the African American vote AND the independent vote, both of which are needed for the Democrats to win the White House, the vote of Democrats alone CANNOT provide the number of votes needed to win in November.
2. Obama's ability to raise money, build a phenomenal donors data base which, the Supers know, will NOT be as generous if Clinton gets the nomination.
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Tue Apr-29-08 11:52 AM
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25. And another SD endorsement for O |
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Joe Machacek DNC member from Iowa endorsed Obama today. That's two today and two yesterday.
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