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Tue Apr-29-08 08:50 PM
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Obama was more personally insulted than outraged by Wright's views. |
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Wright on Moyers Show: "He's a politician, I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician."
OBAMA, today: "And what I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing...
I want to use this press conference to make people absolutely clear that obviously whatever relationship I had with Reverend Wright has changed as a consequence of this. I don't think that he showed much concern for me...
But at a certain point, if what somebody says contradicts what you believe so fundamentally, and then he questions whether or not you believe it in front of the National Press Club, then that's enough. That's — that's a show of disrespect to me..."
The appropriately poll tested response -- the chameleon adjusting his camouflage.
So far, he has thrown Granny and Wright under the bus to appease his callous ambition.
He has Ayers, Michelle to go.
Then there's Rezko, Mayor Daley, Governor Blagojevich, Auchi, I'm sure I left a few people out here.
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:52 PM
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Tue Apr-29-08 11:45 PM
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19. And yet true. That's the really pathetic part. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:52 PM
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2. Yes, that is why he is angry and he should be. Wright threw him under the bus |
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but at least this gives Obama the chance to publicly repudiate him.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:16 PM
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15. you think he CAN and should totally repudiate him? |
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(just as i am getting to know and respect Wright) Oh dear. I am always under some bus or other.
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:52 PM
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3. I'm throwing you under my bus, |
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:53 PM
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4. The Rezco trial is ending in a couple of weeks |
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You'd think Obama would have been dragged into it by now. Clinton supporters have been swearing up and down this trial would be the end of Obama. Oh, well.
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:53 PM
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5. Yeah, Obama was all set to round up white people and put them into camps before this |
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Now, sheesh, who knows? Just cut back the HIV factory production to 25% or so?
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:54 PM
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6. Callous ambition? Yeah -- so unlike Hillary |
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who has been calculating and triangulating her power grab since 1992.
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:54 PM
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7. he says what he has to say as a politician "- a true statement by an Obama fan - WOW |
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:57 PM
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8. Dude.... the OP isn't an Obama fan..... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:59 PM
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9. It's Wright who said it. He's an Obama fan. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:59 PM
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You mean that guy that was causing a ruckus when Obama was EIGHT FUCKING YEARS OLD?
Also, REZKO REZKO REZKO!
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:01 PM
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11. Intelligent people all over the map agree that Wright dissed him. |
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And he has good reason to feel betrayed.
Obama may be different, but he's still human and do we really want a president that will just let people publicly walk all over him? So we learn that loyalty has breaking points. He handled the situation originally in a way that was respectful and allowed both of them to walk away with from the "scandal" with dignity and Wright turned around and made it impossible to brush off a second time.
People running for office don't cling to liabilities.
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Tue Apr-29-08 09:59 PM
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12. Maybe Obama should have repudiated Wright the first time |
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:03 PM
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14. I don't agree. That would have been disloyal and cruel, in my opinion |
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Repudiating a man for something he said years ago would have been a cowardly and cravenly political - albeit, politically expedient - act. I respected Obama for refusing to kick his pastor to the curb under those circumstances.
But this is a different situation. We're no longer talking about something that Wright said as a small part of one sermon years before Obama decided to run for president. Obama was correct to repudiate him today.
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:25 PM
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17. But by Obama's own words he knew Wright was to "hot" to be in the front lines of the campaign. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:01 PM
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:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:19 PM
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16. You can always learn how to play checkers! |
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Tue Apr-29-08 11:47 PM
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20. Why, when your post screams of tiddlywinks? |
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And, so you know, this Wright flap isn't over. Particularly if Wright comes out with "Of course Obama was there... He congratulated me on the sermon!"
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Tue Apr-29-08 11:42 PM
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18. Your subject is correct; he was personally appalled at Wright after |
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his comments yesterday. But you lost your mojo by throwing the other trash you threw in there. I 'get' it. You don't like Obama. Tell me why exactly, instead of throwing the b.s. out that you are/do. Can you meet that challenge? I think not, but I await to be surprised.
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Tue Apr-29-08 11:48 PM
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21. Because I didn't think it'd be polite to start a thread that was only someone else's quotes. |
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And yes, Wright said it yesterday too, but he first said it to Moyers on Friday.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:47 AM
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22. So what's your gripe, specifically? nt |
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:46 AM
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23. Specifically, if Wright is what passes for religion in the black community, then the |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:47 AM by Yossariant
racial DIVIDE in America is insurmountable. I refuse to pretend that Obama didn't know or wasn't there or yadda, yadda, yadda -- as would any rational person.
This is not only a terrible gotcha moment for Obama. It's a terrible gotcha for America.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:55 AM
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24. Yes, and as a politician, Wright was saying Obama will say anything to get it elected. that |
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is what Obama was "outraged" about.
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