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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:39 AM
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Rove secretly polls GOP Congress on the DRAFT! They will support Bush
Family Circle has an article on the DRAFT, "Could Your Child Be Drafted?" and I found this!

For example, last fall, Presidential advisor Karl Rove polled Republican members of Congress on how they felt about he draft. They said they’d support the president.

http://www.gjusa.com/news/pressReleaseDetails.jsp?id=4141

The July 13 Issue. Very good article. Think they have been reading my threads!

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:42 AM
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1. I think I'll let all my twenty something friends
know this. I persuaded a young man to register to vote the other day-he hates Bush, and this is before he finds out he might be drafted! I'll let him know so he can tell his friends!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:44 AM
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2. And everybody else you see or know...
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:45 AM
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3. Someone should print bumper stickers
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 09:46 AM by PsN2Wind
saying " Vote Bush-Cheney 2004, win you or a loved one a trip to the Middle-East"

Make that "an exciting trip"
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:50 AM
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4. Family Circle magazine
Good let those suburban middle class and upper middle class soccer moms see the consequences of voting for Bush.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:53 AM
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5. Right...
Nothing like the prospect of their sons and daughters being drafted to get people's attention!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:58 AM
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8. Anybody know the circulation of Family Circle?
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 10:26 AM by Dems Will Win
Oh there it is in the article!

23 million!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:57 AM
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6. Hope we can stop President Kerry from following this course
cuz he'll be facing huge problems with a depleted military, and I'm not 100% sure he's not going to continue the conservative agenda to some extent, while throwing us bones on the environment and stuff here at home (which is a GOOD thing, don't get me wrong).

BUT...maybe we can work with him to back away from all that. And if he appoints Clinton as ME Envoy, that will be TERRIFIC!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:01 AM
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9. Soothsayer, Kerry has a NO-DRAFT PLAN. Plus JK said NO DRAFT
and said his foreign policy would make the DRAFT "absolutely unnecessary"

This summer Bush is reducing DRAFT ACTIVATION time by having the SSS conduct NATIONWIDE EXERCISES to test the whole system, even to the point of filling all DRAFT BOARD vacancies and gearing up the Alternative Service for COs for the first time in three decades. Right now the SSS must be ready within 193 days to conscript. With the current reactivation plan due to go into effect in a few weeks, the SSS must report to the Director on March 31, 2005 that they are tuned up and ready to conscript within 75 days of reauthorization from Congress (just a trigger resolution is needed, no new law). The first lottery for 20 year-olds could be June 15, 2005.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

That's what Bush is doing. Quietly oiling up the DRAFT Machinery for Spring 2005.

Kerry's NO-DRAFT plan to raise 40,000 additional troops and avoid reinstatement of the draft is added up this way (my synthesis):

1. Move some paper-pushers to combat (lots of potential there in nearly a million non-active-duty)
2. Increase enlistment with real scholarships and pay raises
3. Let troops know Special Ops will hunt al-Queda, no more invasions needed, so Guard/Reserve re-up rate goes up. "Primarily a law enforcement effort, not a full military effort", say JK on MTP last Sunday.
4. Start a "Civilian Stability Corps" that would help in reconstructing Afghanistan and Iraq and relieve military pressure.
5. GET FOREIGN TROOPS TO COME INTO INSTEAD OF LEAVE IRAQ!!

http://www.candidatemap.com

"...I propose that we enlist thousands of them in a Civilian Stability Corps, a reserve organization of volunteers ready to help win the peace in troubled places. Like military reservists, they will have peacetime jobs; but in times of national need, they will be called into service to restore roads, renovate schools, open hospitals, repair power systems, draft a constitution, or build a police force. A Civilian Stability Corps can bring the best of America to the worst of the world—and reduce pressure on the military."
< Source: Kerry, John. "Protecting Our Military Families in Times of War: A Military Family Bill of Rights." March 17, 2004. http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0317.html >

With this NO-DRAFT PLAN, Kerry will not have to resort to conscription, even after Bush screwed the whole thing up. Kerry said on MTP that we don't need to invade whole nations beyond Afghanistan. He has a plan to increase 40,000 troops without a draft, a plan to bring in foreign troops to Iraq.

There's this: http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2004_0330b.html

“When I returned from service in the military, I testified to the Congress about the racism in the military, about the lopsided application of the draft, the impact that it had on minority communities, the lopsided number of casualties, both African-American and Hispanic, predominantly.

“And I testified to the Congress about the inequality of the application of the draft and the way in which they were treated when they came home, left in communities that were neglected and lacked health care and education and other issues.”


Also this: http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2003_1203a.html

"Kerry also said he doesn’t believe there is a need to reinstate the draft, a source of conflict during the Vietnam War. "
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:57 AM
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7. Well Congress might have said they'd support the draft, but if it starts I
think there will be a lot of congress critters looking for a new job. This will not go down well.

What is Rove doing polling Congress anyway, what exactly is his position in our government? This guy has gotten way too big for his britches. We need to remind him that he has not official standing, that he's just a political hack/whore who has been lucky so far in that he's been able to put a brain-dead, ex-alcoholic (so they say), lying, AWOL front man in the White House, and he only did that with the help of a biased and corrupt Supreme Court.

Rove needs to be shown for being the nasty, dirty, ugly little cretin he is. Everyday I wake up and I hope that it will be the day that he's led out of our White House in handcuffs over his involvement in the Plame scandal. The man (and I use the term loosely) is a traitor and a felon.
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