HILLARY NO-SPEAK AT DNC

[Hillary for Pres]

Democratic National Committee on Tuesday released its lineup of the big-name politicians speaking at the convention this month, and it contained every major Democratic star except one. There was Bill Clinton near the top. Al Gore was there too. And so was Ted Kennedy and a few others. But Hillary Rodham Clinton was nowhere to be found... WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS?

[CalebHayes]

1. Weird.

[goodhue]

2. many more people will be speaking than who were on today's list n/t

[West Coast Democrat]

3. She'll be there...

"as part of a special segment featuring all the women senators."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=2&u=/ap/20040713/ap_on_el_pr/democratic_convention

Anyway, Bill is speaking.

[Hillary for Pres]

9. She will be there. But she will not be speaking.

Richardson has said that many times, and including in that article.

[West Coast Democrat]

39. Big deal. Who cares? Bill will be speaking

[SW FL Dem]

4. I trust John Kerry's judgment.

If he wants Hillary- she will speak, if not, she won't. I won't let a new poster deflate my excitement about this ticket.

[Hillary for Pres]

10. I am not deflating

your excitement towards the ticket. She raised over 10 million in one day for him. Anothe 10 in two emails for him. If he doesn't choose her, its because hes worried she will steal the spotlight. But I do like the ticket. Be happy there is a new poster..........it should make things more fun.

[trogdor]

31. Or because she might wake up the Freepers.

Like it or not, she's a lightning rod for every right-wing nutcase in the USA. She plays well in New York, but she's box-office poison in flyover country.

[mzmolly]

5. Frankly there are several other people I'd like to see more.

;)

[Leilani]

8. I agree!

There are several people whose supporters would like to hear from them.

They are also out working hard for the ticket.

[DeepModem Mom]

6. Welcome to DU, HforP!

[AngryLizard]

7. Could it be that she doesn't want to overshadow the ticket?

I mean, yeah, you've got to have Bill because we all (or enough of us) love him, and it harkens back to the good ole days when everyone had jobs and the rest of the world liked us, but Hillary might be too much. I mean, I dig her, and I never quite got all the frothing at the mouth at the RWs did over her (what the hell was that, anyway?), but I don't have a problem with her speaking.

Plus, you know, she'll have her turn. Sooommeedayyyy....

[Hillary for Pres]

12. Rock on. I agree. But what influence my friends and I have... I will use.

Thanks for taking time to comment on this though... its appreciated.

[Hillary for Pres]

11. Thank you:)

[Lefty Pragmatist]

13. To be honest

I think it's great. If I had my way, the speakers would be:

Night 1: Bill Clinton
Night 2: Bill Clinton
Night 3: John Edwards
Night 4: Bill Clinton speaks on behalf of John Kerry

[cally]

14. She's a Jr. Senator now

I love Hilary Clinton, but it would be disrespectful to all the other Senators to feature her as a speaker now. Our team is Kerry/Edwards.

[Hillary for Pres]

29. She is the immediate past former Democratic First Lady of the U.S.

shes not just a Junior Senator. Has your average Junior Senator been awarded an Emmy? Been named "2003-4" Most Admired Women -- Think about it.... Blanche Lincoln - Hillary Rodham Clinton? Jon Corzine - Hillary Rodham Clinton - Tom Daschle - Hillary Rodham Clinton - Nancy Pelosi - Hillary Rodham Clinton - The names just don't compare. They never will either.

[Dr Fate]

15. Response: Fine by me.

I dont remember any stand-out speeches by her anyway.

[Hillary for Pres]

30. I do - where she said, "and yes It does takes a Village"

I do - where she said, "and yes It does takes a Village"

[Dr Fate]

38. Contrary to what the "Liberal Media" tells us...

most Liberals like Hillary, but we dont get all hot & bothered over her like her enemies seem too.

She's cool, but the best thing about her is that she pisses off, and thus confuses Republicans.

[LTR]

16. The only people fanatical about Hillary Clinton...

...are Republicans.

I'm just saying. What's with all the spam?

[oasis]

17. Hillary will speak but not in prime time.

[sandnsea]

18. Everybody can't speak

That's just the way it goes.

[AntiCoup2K4]

19. I don't care if Hillary Clinton is EVER on the ticket

After she applauded Junior's LIE about Iraq being the "central front in the war on terra" I lost all respect for her. Just another DLC traitor.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

20. I don't see her as a traitor, just very self-serving n/t

[Hillary for Pres]

32. if Howard dean had the chance,

he would have voted for the war. But he never had the vote, so thats the only reason he could say he wouldnt have voter the way the rest did. When it comes down to it, and you actually are the Member of Congress, you are in a different situation.

[Placebo]

21. PLAN B:

:yourock: HILLARY CLINTON IN 2008!!! :yourock:

[fujiyama]

22. Unlikely

because John Kerry will be running for reelection.

In '12, Edwards will run and serve for another eight years...and I'd be more likely to back Edwards over Hillary any day.

[Placebo]

23. HaHaHa...

while I agree that Kerry will likely win over Bush this time, I don't think this nation will have 12–16 straight years of a democrat in the white house, or republican for that matter. (though I know its been done before)

[Hillary for Pres]

28. Reverse that

I agree about Kerry. That would be great. But Edwards over Hillary? You have GOT to be kidding me. I like Edwards, don't get me wrong. I voted in the Virginia Primary for him. But he will never ever win a primary over Hillary. Thats just common sense. The world will be ready for a Women President in '08 or '12.

[Hillary for Pres]

33. Now that is what I am talking about.

Yes!

[Guaranteed]

24. And no Dean?

WTF...are you kidding me?

[robcon]

25. Dean: a distant fourth in the primaries.

Why would the DNC want to hear from the fourth-place finisher?

[Guaranteed]

26. Because he's the LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC BASE.

And he WON this goddamned election for us.

[Anwen]

44. Apparently, they DO want to hear from him!

http://www.timesargus.com/04/Story/86610.html

[Hillary for Pres]

34. Dean is Done.

Dean maybe Chair of the Party. He has had his chance. He will never be President of the United States. I am sorry but thats the truth. Thats just the way the system works. I like Dean, he speaks the way the rest refuse to, and people use it against him. Which sucks. But I think he will do an outstandting job leading this party in the right direction.

[lojasmo]

42. And yet he's going to speak

at the convention, according to rumor. Dean camp is holding off on the announcement in deference to convention organizers.

Hmmm. Flame on.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Just Win Baby....

I don't give a rat's ass who speaks as long as the convention is successful....



Defeating Bush is a moral imperative...

[Hillary for Pres]

35. That's true.

[ronnykmarshall]

36. How many times are you gonna post this?

[lojasmo]

37. Good.

Ugh. Just say "no" to HRC.

[ronnykmarshall]

40. Verrrrrryyyyyyyyyy interesting!

Now that someone called you on the carpet about your Hillary "support" site that has links to RW trash sites, you CHANGED your profile link to Sen. Clinton's REAL site.

Hmmmmmm? What's the problem, Matt?

[Hillary for Pres]

45. My site doesn't

My site is votehillary.org I am the 18 year old that tried to get Hillary Rodham Clinton to run for president all of last year. Look me up on google. Search Draft and (then) 17 year old trying to get her to run. So of course I am going to have a website on my profile (votehillary.org) but that site now links to friendsofhillary.com because im not trying to get her to run. I just am a giant supporter.

[Hillary for Pres]

46. and its not RY trash, its her homepage

[ronnykmarshall]

47. Oh please

Your link is NOT to Hillary's homepage. Your link was orginally to YOUR web page and now you've changed it to direct people TO Hillary's homepage.

Don't pull that crap. Your site that was up the other day had links to RW sites.


http://www.friendsofhillary.com/ - THAT is Hillary's website.


http://www.votehillary.org - That WAS the link to YOUR site.

[Rose Siding]

41. How many women are on the list?

[sleipnir]

43. Well, they won't let Zell speak, I think the same of Hillary.

She's coming perilously close to a DINO, she's leaning more and more to the center/right each day. I don't trust her to be in a leadership position, but then look at the worthless party leadership we already have.

[Carolinian]

48. It will be wise keep both Clintons out of the picture if we want to win

this election. Sorry to say this, but's it's true. Crossover voters will run away rather than align themselves with the Clintons.
I think we would be wise to let this topic go before it divides us. I say, grin and bear it for the good of the party.
Remember, this a NEW team for a NEW America.

[incapsulated]

51. Yeah. That plan worked so well for Gore. n/t

[Carolinian]

52. That was then and this is now.

[ibegurpard]

49. I don't care

I don't care that she's not speaking and I wouldn't particularly care if she was.
:shrug:

[Nicholas_J]

50. Hillary expects

A run in 2008 if Kerry doesnot win, but really expected that she would be ready to run in 2013 after a second Kerry win if he does win. If Kerry had selected someone older for VP, like Gephardt, the odds of that person running for President in 2013 would be unlikely, clearing the way for her to run in 8 years, in her early sixties. If Kerry wins, then Edwards becomes heir presumtive for the next Democratic run, putting a crimp in her plans.

Which were not bac plans, as almost all polls showed Hillary blowing Dean out of the water when Dean was in the lead if she cane in for a run now, and showed her doing better than Kerry after Dean left the race if she decided to run. But her chances of winning this time around were less than Kerry's, and it is too close to Bill's administration to prevent the Bush administration from using the events of the impeachement against her candidacy had she run row.


I think that even after a Kerry Administration with Edwards as VP, Hillary would do better in polls that Edwards would if she decides to run in 2013, but this would mean opposing the candidate who would be the mostl logicial to run after Kerry. So in a sense, Kerry selecting Edwards has had an extremely adverse effect on her plans to run for the Preisdency. If she opposes a sitting voce-president for the nomination, problems with the party.