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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:17 AM
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BRAND NEW!!! Zogby poll numbers on Indiana and NC
Things at this point seem to be what i expected. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1495
Zogby International
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:23 AM
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1. I love it :)
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:25 AM
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2. Hillary seems to be trending down in Indiana.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:25 AM
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3. I find Polls to be biased and rather unreliable..
Edited on Fri May-02-08 04:25 AM by and-justice-for-all
but according to this one, regardless of what happens, Obama will still be kicking HRC's ass..:toast:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:29 AM
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5. "kicking HRC's ass"
That beer's on me! :toast:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:24 AM
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35. Indiana Poll Shows Clinton With Big Lead Over Obama
Indiana Poll Shows Clinton With Big Lead Over Obama

http://www.theindychannel.com/politics/16106143/detail.html ::Clip here>>


INDIANAPOLIS -- A statewide poll indicates a dramatic shift of support from Sen. Barack Obama to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ahead of next week's Indiana Democratic presidential primary -- a shift that could be explained by a controversy over Obama's ex-pastor, the poll's conductor says.

The survey, conducted by Indianapolis-based TeleResearch Corp. and released exclusively to 6News, showed Clinton with a 10-point lead over Obama in Indiana -- 48 percent to 38 percent -- with 14 percent of respondents undecided. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percent.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:47 PM
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54. This is an older poll. n/t
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:12 AM
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16. 3. I find Polls to be biased and rather unreliable..

Hey, that's what I say when my candidate is down in the polls - get your own line.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:28 PM
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48. Ok...
But HRC is the one that would be done in the polls. Obama is doing just fine and not matter what happens from this point on word, Obama is still going to be leading HRC in Delegates and States won.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:43 PM
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53. .
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:25 AM
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4. Brand new suckers, who eat up whatever Zogby, Rassmussen and/or the corporate media says
Edited on Fri May-02-08 04:26 AM by depakid
without so much as a second thought.

Nice....
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:32 AM
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6. Whoa!
That's deep dude! Wow! Cool! I like the smell of desperation in the morning.Now that's a better

cliché!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:51 AM
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8. Dude
Consider... critical thinking.

Ya got a better chance at doing that under the Maple Leaf, than under the stars and stripes.

Have a go.

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:01 AM
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9. Well good night...
I'm literally crawling to my bed...so tired...
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:18 AM
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12. .
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:25 AM
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36. Rassmussen is typically the most accurate.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:03 AM
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44. Raz has it Clinton by 5 and 13% undecided Ill take that too for Indiana
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:37 AM
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7. Thanks no. Will wait for non-Republican poll
and one that has been somewhat accurate this election cycle
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:32 AM
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13. Let's see. How did Zogby do in PA? Oh, he nailed it perfectly.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:01 AM
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22. Yes, Zogby did nail it in Pennsylvania; however, so did
Insider Advantage with a 7 point spread for Hillary in Pennsylvania. And, Insider Advantage has Hillary up by 2 points with a poll ending on 4-29. Zogby's poll ended on 5-1. Let's see if Zogby suddenly changes his poll closer to the primary as he did in Pennsylvania.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:08 AM
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24. Different demographics in NC so I suspect neither Zogby's or IA's performance in PA is all that
relevant. As we found out in 2000 and 2004 GE state polls are unreliable when things are relatively close, primary state polls are much worse because turnout is even more unpredictable.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:01 AM
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10. Sounds about like what I expected.
Unfortunately, I don't know how well the polls are going to predict the actual "vote count."
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:42 AM
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11. kicking it, baby!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:39 AM
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14. He was dead on in Pennsylvania. Hope he's right with these two states.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:49 AM by Connie_Corleone
Plus, the polls were conducted after Obama's press conference regarding Wright.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:51 AM
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15. K/R.
:kick:
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:44 AM
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17. Zogby? Isn't he of Middle Eastern descent?
Perhaps he favors a candidate with the middle name of Hussein?
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:56 AM
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19. by that logic we really should have elected a President Jesus by now
we're way overdue :eyes:
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:09 AM
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25. Well, Jesus was a Jew and Zogby is not!
Can you understand the difference?
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Dyllyn Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:01 AM
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21. That's Republican talk who believe it's Ok to hate muslims because of 9/11
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:14 AM
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30. No, it's not right to hate ALL muslims; however, many want
to harm this country and other individuals that do not believe in the "vestal virgins" reward. :>)
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Dyllyn Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:23 AM
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34. "Harm our country" I think we are doing a pretty good job of that ourseleves
Noticed any changes in the last 8 years .
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:36 AM
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39. Yes. great harm has come under the Idiot we have in
the White House. However, Bush and his friends are not into suicidal mass killings of American civilians.
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Dyllyn Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:19 AM
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42. Well I read recently that 15000 US soldiers have commit suicide after returning from Iraq
Islam is the third biggest religion in the world . The vast majority are honest to good people . Every society has it's terrorists . I think it is unfair that at this moment in our time they are getting the thin end of the stick .

Considering the mass murder by europeans during 19nth and 20th century 9/11 is relatively insignificant in numbers yet huge symbolically
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:04 AM
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45. What the fuck would you call what is going on in Iraq?
About 4,000 US Citizens has been killed there.
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Bentcorner Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:53 AM
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18. Keep in mind that Zogby is buddies with McCain and who do you think
McCain would rather face in the general election, Hillary or Barack? I expect all of McCain's buddies to do everything in their power to make sure McCain becomes President.
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:00 AM
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20. On FoX News - 45 minutes ago....
Heraldo Rivera predicted Hillary will steal the nomination!
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:06 AM
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23. I wonder if Heraldo Rivera is still looking for
Capone's treasure in the wall? :evilgrin:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:11 AM
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27. Dang, you beat me to it!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:10 AM
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26. Oh well if Heraldo "Capone's Vault" Rivera said it , it must be true!
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:10 AM by yellowcanine
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:11 AM
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28. If that happens, she will destroy the democratic party.
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:12 AM
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29. I believe that's her intention.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:27 AM
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37. No, her intention is to receive the most Democratic votes
in a closed, secret ballot primary; and, not by some caucus wrangling by a bunch of snot-nosed, individuals that are voting for the first time. Hell, most were playing with their Game Boy during the best 8 years of President Bill Clinton. They no nothing of the horrid, Raygun years. Probably most were just a "gleam in the Old Man's eye" during those difficult years of Reagan.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:01 AM
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43. You sure are elitist.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:16 AM
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47. What an elitist!
Ever work for the party? Didn't think so.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:17 AM
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32. No, she represents the real Democratic Party.
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:23 AM
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33. She has gotta know she's splitting the party
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:33 AM
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38. I don't think so. The Black voters will be disappointed; but,
will vote for Clinton knowing that their best interests would be served by voting for her.
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:48 AM
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40. I think disappointed is a bit to mild to describe
the rallies and public display of outrage and betrayal will be impressive and covered 24/10 by the media.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:54 PM
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57. I think if she does take it all the way to the convention
and loses the nomination, if Michigan and Florida popular votes are not counted, she might imply Barack Obama stole the nomination. She personally will not; some in her camp will. She has had the intent of permanently damaging him so he will be less of a threat in 2012 should she decide to run again. I think she will surreptitiously undermine an Obama presidency should he win the General Election, with that same intent.

I do not say this based on anything I have read at this website during this campaign. I say this because I have been saying this is her true nature since 2003. I saw the underpinnings of what the DLC did to Al Gore, and I knew exactly why. They were covering Hillary's flank for 2008. It's a longstanding pattern with the Clintons.

I do think that if she loses both Indiana and North Carolina, she will be "forced" to "suspend" her campaign. But I give an Indiana win to Obama only a 50-50 chance today. Perhaps tomorrow will be a better day.

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:15 AM
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31. Isn't that the one with both states showing 18% for neither candidate AND a MOE of almost 4?
22% is an awful lot of wiggle room. I wouldn't be counting on those numbers folks.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:54 AM
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41. Zogby! Isn't that the one that Obama supporters trash as being the worst
pollster ever if he posts any poll data that is favorable to Hillary? I'm sure I've seen that opinion here in just the last couple of weeks.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:35 PM
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50. He is one of the worst... horribly inconsistent.
He was been dead wrong in California and New Hampshire but spot on in PA and Texas... I don't trust anything he says.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:14 AM
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46. Great - He's the most accurate recently!
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:35 PM
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51. but he was the worst earlier.
He is very inconsistent.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:34 PM
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49. Looks good
Thanks for posting.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:37 PM
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52. Thank God it's Zogby!
Means it's worth s**t.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:05 PM
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55. She better run another scary commercial or cry to win Tuesday..
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:25 PM
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56. I can't believe Obama's LEADING by 1% among CATHOLICS in IN!
GREAT NEWS! :bounce:
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truth-warrior Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:55 PM
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58. Zogby lol.
Watch for a double digit Hillary win in IN & a tight finish in NC
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:56 PM
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59. What kind of machines are we voting on there?
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