This will sink Hillary... it is disgusting

[gaiilonfong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/93316/53926/838/507664


Get this out to EVERYONE

This is who the clinton campaign really is

[oviedodem]

1. WOW! I am totally speechless and he is on the payroll!!

[Free Speech Zone]

150. STOP. Its BAIT!!!!!

Seriously. think this thru. Watchthe clip form teh origonal movie (War Room) THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

Think this through.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/125635/1207/735/507783

The video clip of Kantor talking to Carville and Stephanopolous is most likely intended to get Obama supporters to embrace a fake smear. It's an old trick people and it works.

The story isn't going to be that a Clinton aide back in 92 insulted Indiana. The story is going to be that Obama supporters pushed a fake video trying to smear Hillary.

This is classic Rovian shit. We all use the phrase and talk about the evils of Rove but we always forget what that actually means.

Sometimes it means someone hands you exactly what you're hungry for. They know it's a fake but you don't until after you've run around town waving it in the air. Then you're screwed. Ask Dan Rather.

[beezlebum]

163. i'm actually with you on this.

i do not want to see obama supporters use this- of all the things on hillary- a questionable video, that could later be turned around and used against obama. that said, i' wouldn't be surprised, siunce her advisors seem to be a bunch of racist, rovian twerps, but.

maybe i'm in the minority, but i'm just not sure about it...

[Free Speech Zone]

169. Think it through

They have a paper in their hands that shows unexpected poll numbers form Indiana showing them up. They didn't expect to be up. Why then call these people 'shit'?

THEY DIDN'T

He says "These people are shitting themselves"

He is talking about his opponents who are down in the poll and thought they would be up.

Then where the youtube version that has been deleted said 'n****' he says NO SUCH THING.

[beezlebum]

177. i just listened to it again

war room part nine, 8 minute clip on youtube, and i actually do think you're right about "those people are shitting." and i didn't even hear the white ***** part w. volume turned all the way up. it sounded like he said "how would you like to be in that room?"

i am THE LAST person to defend clinton, and have zero tolerance for racism, but i certainly do NOT want want to stoop to such tactics and refuse to be a part of false or questionable charges of it.

[jjr5]

214. Um . . . how could that part have been dubbed?

When he says "those people are s*%&" that isn't dubbing and he didn't say "sh***ng - themselves." You'd have to be blind and hard of hearing to think that he said an entire word after he ended his sentence. This is the real thing. I don't know about the "white n-word thing," but either way that guy insulted Indianans.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

176. but it the GOP that's using it?

[beezlebum]

181. i'm not sure i get your meaning. eom

[Zodiak]

179. There is a name for it

It is called being "Rathered".

Classic Dan Rather style setup....we do need to keep our eyes open on this. Obama himself has chosen not to engage in this..we should take his cues.

[guruoo]

217. Obamas 'Dan Rathered'...

Nothing new here.

[Butch350]

244. Oh Come On

THAT IS NOT A FAKE VIDEO!

He said what he said. All of you clintonese are in denial! Clean the wax and Hillary BS out of your ears.

Are you HRC people inherently retarded or something. Or maybe you just don't hear it because you all think the same way.

[sinderello]

213. ABC: the video has been doctored

Official transcript

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/official-transc.html

[Life Long Dem]

233. ABC?

:rofl: Any connection to George Stephanopoulos? Like anything else it's a cover-up.

[Better Believe It]

2. K&R

[bigbrother05]

3. OMG

[Bonobo]

4. Is that Mickey Kantor guy still working for the Clinton campaign?

[Buzz Clik]

12. Yes.

And, so is George Stephanopoulos ... but George's role is "unofficial".

[JoFerret]

175. So gullible, and the paranoia

is worthy of Wright.

[Raine1967]

5. OMG...

That is terrible.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

6. So, she's been associating with him for FORTY years? She must share all his views.

[mcctatas]

56. Doh!

I never even thought of that! :rofl:
I don't have the devious clitonian thought patterns down quite yet!

[gasperc]

137. well it's about judgement

you have to ask yourself, if it was me I would have left his office years ago

[Cheap_Trick]

147. just imagine what views she must share with Bill after 40 years of marriage...

[PoliticalAmazon]

203. I really doubt Hillary is a whore-monger. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

7. How sweet. In referring to people from Indiana: "Those people are shit."

"How'd you like to be a worthless white n**ger."

-- Clinton '08 advisor Mickey Kantor speaking to George Stephanopoulos and James Carville.

[faithfulcitizen]

41. And notice George and James didn't bat an eye.

[Marnieworld]

91. Because they are elitists

Elitist is as elitist does.

[JoFerret]

152. Obama projection time?

or what?

geez - the lack of civility, critical thinking, fairness and judgment are astonishing.

[Barack_America]

8. WOW! That is AWFUL!

That guy has to go. Not just from her campaign, but from the Democratic party. Those comments are appalling and entirely unacceptable.

I am stunned.

[City Lights]

9. Wow.

Disgusting.

Recommended and passing to friends. Countdown too.

[mcctatas]

10. In all fairness...

that is from Bill Clinton's 1996 campaign....
But it does kinda show what some around her think of "Joe Lunchbox" (I heard tweety use that phrase once, it made my eyes bleed)! Also, is it just me, or does Carville look like a total weenie in his little hat! :hi:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. What An Arrogant Asshole Kantor Is

And that's the 92 campaign...IN was never in play in 96 with a weakened Perot...

[durrrty libby]

145. Can't believe you would fall for a doctored piece of crap

This was part of a documentary and the youtube clip is doctored

Read the reviews or order it on Amazon. This never happened. Sad

http://www.amazon.com/War-Room-James-Carville/dp/B0002JUXDS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1209745108&sr=8-1

[goclark]

199. huum,doctored like Rev. Wright?

You are right that there should be rules about such but the HC camp and the MSM didn't get the message.

[guruoo]

218. So you recommend Obamas use this doctored video against Clinton?

[SwampG8r]

223. no i dont

i want him to stay above it and not comment
i however intend to damage hillary as much as possible politically with it
this is the road she chose

[goclark]

243. .

[progressoid]

24. Carville ALWAYS looks like a total weenie.

Apologies to actual weenies.

[kid a]

36. was that 96 or 92

[mcctatas]

54. My bad....

92:)

[CakeGrrl]

11. It deserves to help sink Hillary, but you know it won't get play in the M$M

Let it go viral and let the kids tell their parents, though. That could be interesting...

She's more than earned some guilt-by-association payback.

[Barack_America]

27. Perhaps somebody should e-mail it to the Indianopolis Star?

Or post it on their comment boards.

So people can see the reality of who they endorsed?

There have now been entirely too many Clinton associates with similar disgusting opinions for me to believe the Clintons don't condone this behavior.

[Hepburn]

33. Good idea on getting it out.

Anyone have email addies for the major Indie newspapers?

[Barack_America]

It's already being posted...

On Indiana newspaper comment boards.

Somebody coordinated this. Methinks the Obama campaign is a bit more "tough" than people give them credit for.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/NEWS0502/805020469#pluckcomments

It's been posted twice here. It will be interesting to see what happens when people start watching it.

:popcorn:

[w13rd0]

13. Wow...

...way to go Clinton campaign. After the endless barage you called the kitchen sink, and the media called Rev White, this clip. Wow. And you wanted their votes? Lol, called the citizens of Indiana "worhless white ni**ers". And was it me, or was he wearing a bow tie and suspenders? Yeah, no, no elitism in that room... </sarcasm>

[oviedodem]

14. I just emailed KO about it, I also checked another video without the sub-title

and yes he DID say it and it is not a voice over.

[mike772]

19. Got a link?

thanks

[oviedodem]

29. Yes, It comes around 4:40, from the War room pt9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

[mike772]

39. t/y

[SwampG8r]

226. you need to turn it up as loud as you can stand it

[BattyDem]

52. You should email this link to KO, too

If you haven't done it already. It proves that the first clip was not dubbed.

[Free Speech Zone]

153. DOCTORED. Its BAIT! I Just listened to it

with headphones and audio all the way up and i do not ... I repeat NOT hear him say N*&^%@. Listen for yourself. This is a set up.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/125635/1207/735/507783

The video clip of Kantor talking to Carville and Stephanopolous is most likely intended to get Obama supporters to embrace a fake smear. It's an old trick people and it works.

The story isn't going to be that a Clinton aide back in 92 insulted Indiana. The story is going to be that Obama supporters pushed a fake video trying to smear Hillary.

This is classic Rovian shit. We all use the phrase and talk about the evils of Rove but we always forget what that actually means.

Sometimes it means someone hands you exactly what you're hungry for. They know it's a fake but you don't until after you've run around town waving it in the air. Then you're screwed. Ask Dan Rather.

[txaslftist]

165. I sure heard him say "those people are shit" though.

Didn't you?

[Free Speech Zone]

166. HE is talkign about his OPPONENTS

Think this through. They have a paper in their hands that shows unexpected poll numbers form Indiana showing them up. They didn't expect to be up. Why then call these people 'shit'?

THEY DIDNT

He says "These people are shitting themselves"

He is talking about his opponents who are down in the poll and thought they would be up.

Then where the youtube version that has been deleted said 'n****' he says NO SUCH THING.

Stop.

Think.

Listen for yourself.

Why call people who are supporting you shit?
IT MAKES NO SENSE. He is talking about the opposition. They are shitting themselves.

[txaslftist]

170. LOL. It's one thing for you to advise me on what I don't hear.

Don't try to tell me what I CAN hear. I don't think this video makes a bit of difference one way or another, but I'm hearing him say "those people are shit". I wouldn't hold anything someone says in the heat of a campaign on election day against them personally anyway, and I certainly wouldn't hold it against their "client", the candidate. I think this whole "scandal" is a lot of todo about nothing, and no reflection on Clinton OR Obama. This is the pawns in the game a long time ago under stress saying something that nobody ought to even give a crap about.

It might be a wee bit different if I heard "nigger" in there, but I sure don't.

[Free Speech Zone]

172. I wrote it worng

He says 'those people are shitting'

and he is talking about Bushco when they see the poll.

[amerikat]

188. I agree

He is talking about their republican counterparts and what must be happening as they watch the returns come in.

[City Lights]

74. I emailed Keith too.

If enough of us do, maybe he'll give it some airtime.

[gaiilonfong]

82. What is KO email ?

thanks

[City Lights]

90. Here:

[e-mail]

Sometimes my emails are returned, but the one I sent this morning seems to have made it through. :-)

[rodeodance]

228. you should have read upstream that it was doctored.

[Bigleaf]

15. They keep good company, the Clinton's. It figures Carville and Stephanopoulos are

the co-stars of this video.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Oh my fucking God.

:wtf:

[Vinca]

17. OMG - any Indiana television stations to email this to? nt

[greguganus]

25. Kicking for the truth. n/t

[creeksneakers2]

216. How can a hoax video get recommended for truth? n/t

[faithfulcitizen]

31. wthr.com, wishtv.com, theindychannel.com

[George II]

247. Probably not...the phony video has already been pulled OFF Youtube!

...amazing how gullible people can be.

[Bonobo]

20. Mickey Kantor Bio:

BTW, Hillary better dump this guy immediately. He's in deep shit. Also, why didn't Stephanoupolpus and Carville IMMEDIATELY denounce a KNOWN RACIST!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Kantor

Mickey Kantor
Michael "Mickey" Kantor (born August 7, 1939 in Nashville, Tennessee) is an American politician and lawyer. After serving as the Clinton-Gore campaign chair in 1992, Kantor was appointed United States Trade Representative, holding that office from 1993 to 1997. He was, in 1996 and 1997, United States Secretary of Commerce.

Born in Nashville, he holds a B.A. in business and economics from Vanderbilt University (where he pledged to Zeta Beta Tau Fraternity), earned in 1961. He then served four years as an officer in the United States Navy, and subsequently earned a J.D. from Georgetown University in 1968. Initially, Kantor worked for the Legal Services Corporation, providing legal assistance to migrant farm workers. It was during this time that he first met Hillary Clinton. From 1976-1993, he practiced law with the Los Angeles law firm of Manatt, Phelps, Phillips & Kantor (now Manatt, Phelps & Phillips LLP), and was active in Democratic politics and fundraising. He also co-founded the Los Angeles Conservation Corps.

An advocate of free trade, Kantor, as Trade Representative, lead U.S. negotiations that created the World Trade Organization (WTO), such as the Uruguay Round, and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). He also engaged in organizating the Miami Summit of the Americas and three meetings of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, including the U.S.-hosted First Leaders' Meeting. With the European Commission of the newly formed European Union, he expanded the trans-Atlantic market.

Kantor practices law at Mayer Brown, an international law firm based in Chicago.

Kantor has been married to broadcast journalist Heidi Schulman since 1982, following the death of his first wife, Valerie Woods Kantor in a 1978 plane crash in San Diego<1><2>. He has children Leslie, Douglas (from the first marriage), and Alix (from the second marriage); and grandchildren Ryan, Jackson, and Zack. Another son from Valerie, Russell, died in a single-car crash in October, 1988, while a senior in high school.<2>

[Aloha Spirit]

64. organizating

[Tennessee Gal]

21. And you think this doesn't go on in every campaign? Give me a break.

[Hepburn]

42. No, I don't think that EVERY candidate has primary people in...

...his/her campaign who call anyone the "n-word" except for people like George Wallace and his ilk.

IMO, if this kind of racial bigotry is OK with you, then you need to leave the Democratic Party.

[last1standing]

61. You'll excuse anything, won't you? And then you'll wonder why others think you're racist.

n/t

[City Lights]

97. It's classic BushClinton. Vote for us, or fuck you, Judas.

How unsurprising that you resort to the "everyone does it" defense.

[reflection]

130. No, I don't. n/t

[Shae]

143. No.

Most people have far more class.

[SwampG8r]

230. thats what we are trying to stop

is the fact that this HAS gone on and it is time it stopped

the old way is over and hillary is the epitomy of the old way

i look forward to a day when all her supporters will be free of her influence and think again for themselves

[faithfulcitizen]

22. wow, just wow. I guess they have all kinds of racists.

[futureliveshere]

23. Sorry, didnt realize this was already posted. Just posted the video with transcript.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5778940

Kicked for visibility. The more people see this the better.

[meow mix]

26. holy crap, i cant believe this. (well actually i can i guess)

those are freepers.

[indimuse]

28. get real!!

!!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

30. Not surprised you approve of racial slurs.

[oviedodem]

32. Here is a link to the non-subtitled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

[mistertrickster]

167. I'm an Obama fan. At 4:40 or so into your link, Kantor comes in with exit poll data

and says, "Look at Indiana! 42 to 40! Those people are shit. Oh, excuse me."

I interprete this to mean that he's saying even the hicks in Indiana (I'm actually from Indiana, btw) are voting our way.

Then Kantor whispers something that can't be made out.

Anyone who says he uses the N word is fooling with us . . . on the original all you can hear is the "Those people are shit" which is still pretty bad.

[tularetom]

34. this deserves mega K & R's

[rodeodance]

162. how you feeling now that you were so eager to slime Hillary? You were the FOOL>

[SwampG8r]

231. looking on while hillary pours slime on herself

does not equal sliming hillary

[George II]

248. Why? To prove how phony videos can get all this attention? Youtube PULLED it!!

[oviedodem]

35. **** Link to non-subtitled version; War room pt. 9; around 4:40

non subtitled

[Lakerstan]

96. I have the DVD - no closed caption, but...

I've played it several times. The "those people are shit" is quite clear. He even looks back up at the camera and says "Excuse me." But the last part does not sound like "white n***ers." Sounds some thing like "How would you like to be {inaudible} black in his home" or "How would you like to be {inaudible} black in this hole"

[gaiilonfong]

37. All of you Clintonistas who are defending this are defending RACISTS

no IF'S ands or BUT'S

If this was said by an Obama supporter, I would be just as disgusted.

[Vinca]

40. If "white nigger" was uttered by anyone within 10 miles of Obama,

the Clinton camp would be demanding a beheading.

[Lakerstan]

105. I don't think he said white n****r

But he did say "these people are shit". I have the DVD - unfortunately no captions. I've replayed it several times this morning - it's inaudible, but it sounds like he says "How would you like to be {inaudible} black in this hole" or "in his home".

[flpoljunkie]

38. Not if the media ignores it! Talk about "elitist" and contempt for the white, working class!

[Politicalboi]

102. They probably will ignore it

But had they used the word "Bitter Worthless White N***er" then we might have something.

[meow mix]

43. K&R

racists

[Shine]

44. Wow. I'm speechless.

:wow:

[simmonsj811]

80. kicking to the top!

:kick: :kick: :kick: :wtf:

[Kajsa]

45. Holy crap! "Adding comments has been disabled for this video."

Gee- I wonder why? :eyes:

Is there anyway to permanently save this clip?
( independent of youtube?)


Thanks for posting this.

[BattyDem]

58. If you have Firefox ...

DownloadHelper will let you save it :-)

http://www.downloadhelper.net

[Kajsa]

63. Thanks,BattyDem!

:hi: :)

[gaiilonfong]

65. I think it will be cached in google

I think that is how you can save it...

Don't worry Jed will make his own video with this in it...so it will be out there

[Kajsa]

71. Good!

This needs to seen- far and wide!

And the Clinton camp was calling Obama
"elitist"!

This is beyond words!

:(

[graycem]

75. I installed Real Player

and it let's you download any video online. While watching a small link pops up on the top right corner and asks if you'd like to download the video. I love it.

[Kajsa]

127. Thanks, graycem!

:hi:

[graycem]

133. Sure thing!

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

46. Kantor has vouched for Hillary's "early opposition to NAFTA" in this campaign

So we can play guilt by association without guilt.

Now, about those worthless white n***ers in Indiana, Hillary...

[Lakerstan]

47. I believe this is from the documentary "The War Room" n/t

[4themind]

48. They look and sound like high school students...

(with no offense to our teens that are reading our site of course) :puke:

[BigD_95]

49. Im asking everyone

to go to the Indiana papers websites and post this link on their message boards. We need to get this out there!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s&eurl

[global1]

50. I Always Wondered What The HRC Campaign Says Behind The Scenes......

and what they really think of the voters. I know that this is not from HRC's current campaign - but - one has to believe that their underlying sentiment of voters haven't changed from then to now. We voters are just pawns and necessary evils on their road to the WH - a means to their ends.

Watching this is just disgusting as it vividly illustrates what I always thought about how these people think of us voters. If this doesn't become a big MSN story - I'll know then that the MSM, Corporate America and the Washington insiders are crapping in their pants that Barack Obama has such a good chance of upsetting their applecart.

This video needs to be circulated far and wide over the next few days. If you have friends in Indiana - make sure they see it.

[meow mix]

51. Hillarys Experience again..

she hires such great help

[oviedodem]

53. How do I get this to huffingtonpost?

[ruby slippers]

66. I just sent it to them but here is the address.....

[e-mail]

[rodeodance]

225. gee, wonder if they posted this fake? sure they did-on the front page. te he

[jeffrey_X]

55. K&R

eom

[Undercurrent]

57. OMG!

I feel ill.

These slugs are disgusting!

The Clinton machine has to be stopped dead in it's tracks, or our party will go down in flames.

[meow mix]

59. and these same people are critical of wright

figures.

[K Gardner]

60. K&R

[ruby slippers]

62. on that note, I'm going to bed. Good day.....good post....I can dream now...

[libnnc]

67. jesus that's bad

really, really bad

:nuke:

The Clinton Team are fucking garbage

[meow mix]

68. K&R

[taught_me_patience]

69. k and r

:kick:

[TragedyandHope]

70. If that's how they think of their BELOVED white working class, just imagine

All the VILE sh*t they're spewing behind the scenes now, about people they REALLY HATE.

This ties directly into the story about the Clinton staffer flooding all the RW-sourced garbage out to supporters and the media. It's not just political tactics, they actually believe this stuff.

:kick:

[graycem]

72. I just sent it to

my Obama groups. Maybe they'll contact the papers too for all the good it will do. Maybe it'll have an effect on their endorsements, but I won't hold my breath since it was in 1992. I'm sure he's had a total change of heart about the good people of Indiana by now. :P

[dipsydoodle]

Unfuckingbelieveable

but maybe what you'd expect from that lot just the same.

[graycem]

109. I am not suprised..

It is politics after all, but after I heard what she said about "screw 'em" this isn't shocking. It is shocking that they let it be captured on videotape.

[returnable]

73. Nothing a little Crown Royal won't fix...

:hi:

[graycem]

76. Oh wow

Your icon just inspired me to send this to John Stewart & Stephen Colbert. :P

[returnable]

113. Excellent. I hope they jump all over it.

Too bad this is leaking on a Friday, basically buried in the news cycle. Hopefully someone will pick it up.

[graycem]

123. Maybe if we're lucky

it'll boil over Monday. :D

[backscatter712]

77. K&R

[uponit7771]

78. She will embrace and hug this person

[DCofVA]

79. It really makes you wonder what they say to the SDs behind close doors

[my2cent]

85. losers

He is not working for hillary camp.:rofl:

[Billy Burnett]

81. Their brand is crisis.

OUR BRAND IS CRISIS
What happens when Washington spin doctors attempt to elect a South American president? Rachel Boynton's provocative film is an incredible tale of 21st-century global politics.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/storyville/our-brand-is-crisis.shtml

[jakem]

83. Kick.

[TragedyandHope]

84. TRUE COLORS Shining Through

What do you think has been going on behind closed doors during this whole campaign?

This is WHY WE FIGHT.

[ampad]

86. Send this to Randi Rhodes

http://www.novamradio.com/live/rhodes_about.php

[meow mix]

111. another good one.. email is [e-mail]

done

[olkaz]

87. Here's a good link to keep checking to see if any media is picking up on it

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&q=mickey+kantor

If it starts showing up there, this thing is going supernova.

[IndependentDem]

146. it has started. n/t

[CatsDogsBabies]

88. It is disgusting

especially since they are making directed and intentional remarks about a state that Hillary now is desperate to win. Stuff like this just shows the wisdom of Obama's 50 state strategy.

[gaiilonfong]

89. Jed report has it up

http://www.jedreport.com/


go there and DIGG IT

the media chgecks those things out


THANKS ALL

[aquarius dawning]

92. If this is all true, she needs to throw that motherfucker under the bus and then back up over him

so she can run over him again as in right fucking now. Then she needs to have her lawyers do the hokey pokey on his sorry ass for the next couple of years.

[rndmprsn]

93. K&R

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/

hit the emails up

[DCofVA]

94. I wish somebody would secretly film what she is telling the SDs

I bet that would sink her for sure!

[wowimthere]

95. Now will she REJECT AND DENOUNCE... When people say she isn't a racist... I laugh.

Someone she has known for years. See George... This is what I'm talking about... Sometimes you know people who say things and you hear it and you say nothing. It's not a shock that George would be on high horse and ask people about their associations. Hypocrites assert themselves all over the Clinton campaign... and the whisper campaign from the racist left has spoken very loudly.

[aquarius dawning]

103. she didn't say it. he did...16 years ago. That's digging pretty deep

FWIW, I think the guys an incompetent asshole and he needs to be let go of immediately if, for no other reason, than that. What kind of an asshole says something that stupid in front of a camera no less?

[Buzz Clik]

98. kick

[Labors of Hercules]

99. What is happening with this? Has any MSM picked it up yet?

eh????

[AzDar]

100. Kick...

:kick:

[wowimthere]

101. Send the Clip to GEORGE STEPH!

[stlsaxman]

168. uh- George Stenographallus is IN the clip!

it's from The War Room... made in '92...

[meow mix]

104. K&R

[Blue_Roses]

106. WHAT?

:wow: What was that all about? Who put that out there?

[aquarius dawning]

108. I wonder.

[arundhatiroyfan]

107. kick

[yellowcanine]

110. Oopsie. George Steph is going to wish he had not played "gotcha" politics with Obama.

I think this is actually more of a problem for him than for Hillary - unless she doesn't shed him fast...

As for Mickey Kantor, he is finished in politics. No campaign or administration will touch him after this.

[HereSince1628]

112. !

[Barack_America]

114. Please also REC the VIDEO on DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=126645&mesg_id=126645

Thanks!

:hi:

[Raine1967]

115. It's linked on Drudge...

[thevoiceofreason]

116. Am I the only one not surprised?

[invictus]

118. I am not surprised either. Any campaign takes on the personality of its candidate. For the Clintons,

it is mean spirited, nasty, and dishonest.

[DCofVA]

126. I have suspected there has been a growing prejudice in the Hilary camp

But, I had no idea it had become so blatant. I guess they see the only obstacles to their frantic grasp for power are the black voters and we "worthless white n*gers".

[invictus]

117. This is at least as big as the Rev. Wright contravery, but the MSM would never play this. n/t

[yellowcanine]

119. If you google "Kantor Indiana" it comes right to the top of the page.

Extremely bad timing for Hillary's campaign in Indiana. She undoubtably will try to claim she hasn't seen the clip to avoid discussing it but she likely has already seen it.

[invictus]

120. The Clintons have so many skeletons in their closet. It is no wonder that the Republicans want ....

... Hillary to win the nomination. She is unelectable.

[nichomachus]

121. I wonder if Steph will mention this on his upcoming Hillary Love Fest

[Buzz Clik]

122. this is 20 recs short of the front page. Keep it coming!

[marimour]

124. omg

[SoFlaJet]

125. ABC news should be made aware of this too

they need to make Steffie come out and publicly denounce this-NOW!!!!

[ruby slippers]

128. This is an ABC link that is talking about it....

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/clinton-informa.html

[lynnertic]

129. VERY CURIOUS -- Youtube stats: 208 views, comments and ratings disabled

8:37am PST friday...

[ruby slippers]

136. it is on some other sites, too.....

[EnviroBat]

131. She needs to sink.

Her and her campaign stink like shit.

[npincus]

132. LOL- Dr*dge has it, so EVERYONE has it now!!!!!

The MSM is wired to Dr*dge, their guru.

[jakem]

134. Kick to shed light on these cockaroaches.

[Orsino]

135. She needs to dump him instantly.

No matter how old the clip is, this is not the time for such a slur to hit the news. With a rapid response, she might even spin it positively, as in "I am deeply offended, and look how fast I axed the perp."

[ruby slippers]

138. these are done......

Post-Tribune
Purdue Exponent
Reporter-Times
The Republic
The Rochester Sentinel
The Sheridan News
The Shelbyville News
South Bend Tribune
The Star Press
The Times
The Times-Mail
Times-Union
Today in Batesville & Oldenburg
Tribune-Star
Times Sentinel
Versailles Republican
Vincennes Sun-Commercial
Wabash Plain Dealer
Washington Times-Herald

[JAbuchan08]

139. I think that this particular clip has been doctored

I'm not a Clinton supporter by any stretch of the imagination. I believe what he REALLY says is "those people are shitting" and then "how would you like to be in the whitehouse right now?"

This is much ado about nothing. There are plenty of real outrages from Ms. Clinton. We don't need to discredit ourselves by circulating false character assassination attacks.

Sam Stein's column on the subject
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/clinton-adviser-claims-in_n_99810.html

[Beausoir]

140. OOOOOOPS! Lol.

[ShortnFiery]

141. We need a good 527 to go forward with "an ad?" MoveOn.org "don't get wobbly" on us now!

:shrug:

[2rth2pwr]

142. I wonder if individual DUers can also be sued?

[durrrty libby]

144. Typical thread for a meeting of mindless drones

Here go buy the original non doctored version or just read the reviews. So sad to be you

http://www.amazon.com/War-Room-James-Carville/dp/B0002JUXDS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1209745108&sr=8-1

[ClayZ]

148. K and R

[sasquatch]

149. Wow, if this gets media coverage her ass is grass and Barack is the lawn mower

[Freedom Train]

173. No, the other way around, actually.

This will sink Obama if his "supporters" run with it. So by all means, go ahead.

[ronnykmarshall]

151. Would like a some Perrier to wash down the crow?

[Beausoir]

180. Kool aid and Crow...it's what's for dinner!

[William769]

201. It's not the first time he has had to eat crow now is it?

:rofl:

[1trackmindGOP]

154. The video was edited...FAKE

Do not push this propaganda...it only goes against the cause.

[VotesForWomen]

155. O supporters up their usual lying and dirty tricks, i see. it's a shame. nt

[rodeodance]

164. OP asid it was " it is disgusting". But it was the OP that proved to be disgusting

[Stop Cornyn]

156. She was already a gonner with Tuzla. You tube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

[NJSecularist]

157. 97 recs and counting for this vile smear thread.

Really says it all about the Obamacult.

[Fearless]

158. ******* IT IS BAIT ************

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/125635/1207/735/507783

[sunnystarr]

159. Wow this part of his bio is just as revealing ...

An advocate of free trade, Kantor, as Trade Representative, lead U.S. negotiations that created the World Trade Organization (WTO), such as the Uruguay Round, and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). He also engaged in organizating the Miami Summit of the Americas and three meetings of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, including the U.S.-hosted First Leaders' Meeting. With the European Commission of the newly formed European Union, he expanded the trans-Atlantic market.

Tell me again that Hillary opposed NAFTA!

Birds of a feather .....

[beezlebum]

160. i wouldn't think this would be THE thing to bring down the clintons

i agree, it's disgusting, but i have to say, this has been largely questioned, and is not top on my list of reasons for not wanting hillary clinton for president. it would not surprise me if it were real necessarily, but as it's somewhat questionable...eh...

if i'm going to go after her/them for past events she may or may not have been directly involved with or in, i'd have to go for ROBO-gate, her taking-obama's-word-for-it/muslim implication, NAFTA, welfare reform, iraq sanctions, telecom '96, iwr, kyl/lieberman, patriot act, obliteration, and other bush/cheney/rw enabling.

this is borderline stooping to her level, not quite, but akin to her obfuscating w/ the wright scandal. there is so much more substance to other awful things the clinton's have been involved with and are responsible for.

[beezlebum]

182. i have to recant some of what i said.

i said it's disgusting, but it is not. what's disgusting is people actually trying to use this. i've listened to different versions, even versions that supposedly make it "clear" that he did say what he's accused of saying, and i do not believe he said the shit part or the other.

it didn't make much sense to begin with and i thought it was puzzling, but now, it's clear that this is bs.

once again, i am the last person to defend clinton, and have zero tolerance for racism or classism or whatever this would be called, but i am also the last person to accept and have zero tolerance for false charges and reaching for it.

though i wouldn't have been shocked, i'm ashamed i even almost believed it.

[rodeodance]

161. You were the FOOL

[ronnykmarshall]

171. And let's make sure to keep this kicked.

[rodeodance]

186. :-)

[mistertrickster]

174. Okay, I listened to it about 10 times. It does NOT say "[Indiana] People are shit."

It says this:

“Look at Indiana! 42 to 40 (in our favor). It doesn’t matter if we win (in Indiana), those people are sh!tt!ng in the White House. How would you like to be" (inaudible, but probably something like "how would you like to be George Bush right now?")

We owe Kantor an apology. He didn't say what he was accused of.

GOBAMA!

[slutticus]

198. I'm with you man....I try not to get involved in these BSC (bat shit crazy) threads...

...but i'm just not hearing what others are saying is there.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

178. but now you can't access it

[SaveOurDemocracy]

183. Yes, it is. A DISGUSTING LIE, that was fed upon by...

DISGUSTING HATERS.

[lumberjack_jeff]

184. 100 recommends for a fake, slanderous, video.

Remind me again why Hillary supporters suck.

[beezlebum]

192. you are right for that

i as an obama supporter want no part of this.

[mcollier]

220. Could Micheal Moore

have been right ==>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEo2x5ok9VA"> Iraq war about oil? What does McCain think?

[quantass]

185. K&R

[trevjr]

187. If this is so innocent

why are the videos being removed everywhere?
I listened very carefully, he says
'those people are shit' then stops.

then he says very softly
'how would you like to be a white nigger if he takes it?'

there are 2 people talking and you have to listen carefully

enhanced audio is here

http://www.twango.com/media/thepolitico.public/thepolitico.10042

[beezlebum]

190. stop spreading this CRAP.

i have listened to several different versions. i've listened to "enhanced' versions that sound faked, and i've listened to original versions at full volume. the videos are being removed because they are slanderous.

it doesn't make any sense, first off. even when i kinda sorta in a way "bought it" i still thought it sounded nonsensical.

he was looking at poll numbers. he was excited. he said, "these people are shitting!" with glee, and then said something to the effect of "how would you like to be in the white house right now?" either people are hearing what they want to hear or they are really reaching.

we are going to regret using this. there is a MUCH bigger scandal that has gotten hardly a whisper on DU (not to take away from berni mccoy's op)- it's criminal, and yet this BULLSHIT is stealing the spotlight. i suppose it wouldn't exactly hurt the clinton camp for people to be distracted by this when there is a potential CRIMINAL investigation for ELECTION FRAUD.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

194. Your Doctor just called and left you a message ...

Re: auditory hallucinations: DOUBLE THE DOSE!

[humbled_opinion]

234. and Hillary's Proctologist called and said ...

they found your head....

[slutticus]

195. I'm just not hearing it....

...sounds like he's saying something about Texas.


?

[quantass]

189. .

[Gman]

191. What the hell difference could this possibly make

except to make hysterical Obamabots go mega-hysterical?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

196. They passed mega-hysterical weeks ago...

and are now in the final throes of uber-hysterical.

[Gman]

197. Like kids gorging on red soda and Hershey's Kisses

they like the hysterical high and don't want it to stop.

[slutticus]

193. I can't hear any of those things. I even cranked up my headphones.

Sounds like he's saying "those people are shitting".......but it's hard to tell.

Where is everyone hearing the N word? I just don't hear it. Sounds like something about Texas.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

200. YOU'RE DISGUSTING-YEAH- I SAID IT SUE ME-FUCK ME , WHATEVER

Official Transcript: Kantor Never Impugned Hoosiers
May 02, 2008 6:18 PM

Forgoing for a moment the dirty trick of the doctored clip from “The War Room,” which falsely had Mickey Kantor using a racial slur, the filmmaker behind the documentary has posted the clip on his Web site to clarify that other point of confusion -- what Kantor was referring to when he cursed. (An apparent source of confusion since the movie came out and some newspaper writers thought he was cursing Indianans. See previous post for that.)

Filmmakers Chris Hegedus and D A Pennebaker write: "We would like to respond to some erroneous statements made today about our film, THE WAR ROOM. These statements alleged certain remarks to Mickey Kantor that simply are not true. The transcript of the scene in question confirms this."

The official transcript:

GEORGE AND CARVILLE: Indiana, we're ahead.

JACQUELINE: Indiana!

GEORGE: Kentucky.

CARVILLE: Kentucky is five. Michigan is eleven, New York's done.

GEORGE: Holy s---, we're pulling away in Ohio.

CARVILLE: Oklahoma we're up.

GEORGE: Tied in Texas.

CARVILLE: Tied in Texas. It looks good. Now let's just say that. I like the text here.

GEORGE: Can you beep Wendy please? Looks pretty good. Looks pretty good.

MICKEY KANTOR: Look at Indiana. Wait, wait. Look at Indiana. Forty-two, forty. It doesn't matter if we win. Those people are s----ing (oh, excuse me) in the White House. How would you like to be... Look at Texas, go down to Texas.

CARVILLE: Even.

MICKEY: Yeah. Thirty-nine, thirty-nine.

CARVILLE: Perot's kind of holding, isn't he?

GEORGE: He held.

MICKEY: Yeah, he held. His numbers held. I'm sort of surprised, frankly.

***

So Kantor was NOT insulting Hoosiers, he was experiencing a moment of schadenfreude about the Bush (Sr.) White House.

Check it out HERE.

Now back to that other question -- who did the fake clip with Kantor saying the N word?!

It's the definition of a dirty trick -- and from what I can tell all the YouTube links have disappeared. Fingerprints gone.

- jpt

[William769]

202. Thanks for this thread!

Just goes to show the utter desperation of the Obama team! :rofl:

[Catchawave]

204. Debunked. n/t

[ooglymoogly]

205. Stop catapulting this crap....the truth is bad enough! nt

[theleader667]

206. I can hear all the Obamababies crying

That their silly little Kantor hoax gained ZERO traction anywhere and will never overtake the real and very serious Rev. Wright scandal that will sink Obama

[snappyturtle]

211. Serious? Is that like critical? I bet you are not an Obama fan. n/t

[last_texas_dem]

207. Deleted

After listening to the link from the full clip to the movie, I'm not 100% sure what I hear.

[emilyg]

208. Debunked

How do you feel now?

[fascisthunter]

209. I Heard the Audio

but I'm not sure what was said.

[PretzelzRule]

210. well, whatever that was has been removed

probably a good thing....

[defendandprotect]

212. CAUTION ---- THIS MAY BE A DOCTORED TAPE . . . !!!

[goldcanyonaz]

215. How did this work out for ya?

[jillan]

219. The real question here is who in the Obama camp made this?

It's already been on the news that this is a scam.

[Catherine Vincent]

221. I'm kicking this for you shithead.

This will sink Hillary... it is disgusting

Get this out to EVERYONE

This is who the clinton campaign really is

gaiilonfong

[rodeodance]

224. OP made an ASSumption.

[Spiffarino]

222. False, and terribly unfair to Mickey Kantor

Kantor is anything but a racist. His mom and dad were civil rights activists in the 60s. This has hurt and angered him deeply.

As a supporter of Barack Obama, I am confident he will not only condemn this outrage but will do what he can to find out who's behind it.

[AZBlue]

227. "This video has been removed by the user."

Does anyone know if it's posted somewhere else?

[JackORoses]

235. right here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuNIUb3Ges

[ekwhite]

229. How to grow a pear in a bottle?

:rofl:

[davidpdx]

232. I watch The War Room several years ago

and very much doubt the video is legit.

As an avid Obama supporter, I want to urge people to knock it off.

[2rth2pwr]

236. It is almost painful to watch the so-called followers of a new kind of politics,

a politics of change, change that we can believe in because we are the people we have been waiting for, so gleeful to participate in a

sleazy hit job like this. What happened to the principles of transforming the way business is done in Washington? What happened to

bridging the divides that separate us? Has it really been so long since the chants of O-Ba-Ma, O-Ba-Ma, O-Bam-Ma have faded that you

can't hear the echoes? The echoes of promises that were made to rise above the petty bickering, to stop the false witnessing against our

brothers and sisters and to move forward into a new day where we can work together to solve the problems that face ordinary American's

every day?

It is truly heartbreaking to see our fellow Dem's so sinful.

[eridani]

237. People! PLEEEAASE educate yourself about voicemorphing!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=358&topic_id=3185

[TK421]

238. I notice that gaiilonfong has not responded to this OP in quite some time

and given what all of us already know ( that this whole thing was a fake ) it comes as no surprise, really

[judasdisney]

239. False Flag, introduced by the Clintons

Tell me again how "There are no such thing as False Flags."

Then tell me how they got their name if they don't exist.

[2rth2pwr]

241. Any proof this is from the Clinton's? Or are you content with another baseless smear?

[judasdisney]

242. 24 other baseless smears on this page accuse Obama/supporters...

Any proof this is from Obama or Obama supporters?

I've heard enough baseless smears from your candidate: "He SAYS he's not Muslim. As far as I know he's not Muslim." I know who is the candidate of baseless smears.

[Satyagrahi]

240. Use this link instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

1. Download the clip.
2. Open the file with QuickTime or a similar program.
3. Select 4:53-4:56 and play it in an endless loop.
4. Crank up the volume and tell me what you can hear.

He does say "white" but he doesn't say "house" as some here have claimed.

This may be helpful (works on a Mac, don't know about PCs):

Download YouTube Videos as MP4 Files
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/04/download-youtube-videos-as-mp4-files.html

[George II]

245. What's DISGUSTING is that this was even posted!!

It pure garbage!

[desi]

246. How's it taste?

[Austinitis]

249. A video removed by the user?

Yea. That hurts real bad.