Now MSNBC is carrying the Kantor story!

[olkaz]

Wow. I was wrong. The mainstream media is going to run with this.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/02/972175.aspx

[AllentownJake]

1. Everyone in the MSM

Loves it when someone gets thrown under the bus....anyone want to take bets at what time Hillary denoucnes and rejects him...I'm going to say 3:00.

[ingac70]

6. I'm gonna love watching Carville explain away this one.

Douchebag stood there listening to that shit, didn't seemed bothered.

[olkaz]

7. I was just thinking about that.

It's almost more about what WASN'T said.

[Danger Mouse]

9. Carville is a piece of shit. He probably agreed with him.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

58. Hillary will run around saying she "is a white nigger just like you"

and then everyone will be happy.

[me b zola]

12. That won't be enough

Hillary needs to explain why there has been a subtext of racism throughout her campaign.

[HereSince1628]

19. It's the folks in the room...ABC has a face that was in the room

Every network EXCEPT ABC will be pusing the clip because it will make ABC red faced.

[WeDidIt]

61. If she doesn't before 3:00

then it runs through the weekend and goes into the last news cycle before the IN primary.

[ingac70]

2. Now FAUX needs to...

since that is the news channel of choice for Hillary supporters.

[Symarip]

4. Birds of a feather...

Oh hell, you know how the rest of it goes.

[olkaz]

3. self-kick

I don't think you guys want to miss this.

[meow mix]

5. its too sensational.. they cannot resist.

shiney, devisive stuff.

[Colobo]

8. Nice!

[CoffeeCat]

10. Kantor is the...

...shiney object that the media can't ignore.

He's like a giant Swarovski crystal!

I don't think this is going to play well in Muncie.

[olkaz]

13. It's going to be interesting to see what effect this has on Indiana

It's SO late for this type of thing to come out. It's going to be very difficult to do much damage control.

[meow mix]

11. K&R

[futureliveshere]

14. We did it!!! Wow, DU has quite some power, eh!!

[olkaz]

18. Yeah it seems that the emails have had some effect.

I think the afternoon will be more telling.

[oviedodem]

22. Damn right!!! Fair is fair if Obama is going to get slammed for his associations well..

[olkaz]

32. But this is WAY different than Wright, remember this:

The Clintons hired Kantor, rehired him, appointed him.

Wright was never part of Obama's campaign. At any point.

[Jed Dilligan]

24. Was it really from here!?

Excellent!

[tridim]

15. Watch them morph it in to an "All Democrats are bad" argument.

[olkaz]

26. To me, that's a net positive. That's what they say anyway.

And it takes the heat off of Obama while screwing up Indiana for Hillary.

So this is a good thing, in my eyes.

[NatBurner]

16. this is an amazing thing to witness

talk about grass roots!

[NJmaverick]

17. Well like any good republican it's about profits, this sort of story

draws viewers, readers and listeners.

[DS1]

20. First read is where they sweep things under the carpet

I'll be surprised if it goes beyond this.

[WA98296]

21. OMG, I love MSNBC

[SoFlaJet]

23. ABC News Address thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5780197

[Colobo]

25. I sent this to Ben Smith at Politico.

[Kajsa]

27. I was wrong about them, too!

-- and I'm so glad they are carrying this.

There is hope for them, after all.

[City Lights]

28. First Read is a first step, but this needs to be discussed 24/7 just like

the Wright story, otherwise the media will be exposed for the hypocritical-double-standard corporate whores they are!

[olkaz]

29. I know, but

This is indicative of something.

The pressure is mounting.

[thereismore]

30. Thank GOD. They should. After what they did to Obama. nt

[suston96]

31. Go to the MSNBC link....It's a MOVIE ABOUT THE 1992 CAMPAIGN!

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro

With the Indiana and North Carolina primaries less than 96 hours away, making its way around the pro-Obama blogosphere is a clip in this video of former prominent Clinton administration official Mickey Kantor calling Indianans an expletive. It is an excerpt from the movie "The War Room" about the 1992 Clinton campaign. Kantor, James Carville and George Stephanopoulous are reading over results from various states, including Indiana, when Kantor says:

“Look at Indiana, wait, wait, look at Indiana: 42-40. It doesn’t matter if we win. Those people are . Excuse me."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

It's from a fucking MOVIE about the campaign......!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. IT'S. A. DOCUMENTARY.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/documentary

[AllentownJake]

36. Taking things out of context

I think it was a documentry of the campaign and something recorded that really happened in any event taking things out of context. I hate when that happens. :rofl: Karma....


So what kind of tires do you think Mickey wants to be run over with Goodyear or Firestone?

[backscatter712]

40. Documentary, no less...

I listened, with headphones to the YouTube video again.

It's whispered, but with headphones, it is pretty clear - Kantor did indeed say "worthless white n*****."

[powergirl]

67. Good work - and the MSM can use their fancy audio equipment

to slow down/speed up and dissect these statements. I am an Obama supporter but I really wish Kantor didn't say that. :(

[olkaz]

41. IT'S A DOCUMENTARY. Keep trying to defuse this. You know you're lying. It is cute though.

Mickey Kantor is not an actor.

How many threads do you think you can put this lie into?

I'm loving it though, don't stop.

[suston96]

45. Do a lip sync as he turns away and whispers something....It is NOT "white n.....r".

"How many threads...."? How many threads are there with this same bullshit topic trying to say that it's about the Hillary Clinton campaign?

So I am just supposed to reply to only one thread?

It's from a fucking movie! And his lips do NOT sync with "white n......r"!

[olkaz]

50. Like I said, keep going, I love it.

You seem to have abandoned your "it's a movie lol" defense.

I like this new one even better. I hope you have LOTS of people listen for themselves to decide what he's saying.

Anyway, keep it up!

[WillyT]

33. Good !!! - K & R !!!

:kick:

[npincus]

34. NOT on the teevee yet. Check Adnrea Mitchell (MSNBC) at 1:00EST.

She focuses on politics.

[WillyT]

39. We Could E-Mail Her...

I just sent it to the Young Turks.

:evilgrin:

[npincus]

42. LOL

:rofl:

[WillyT]

37. And Now AOL News Has It... Complete With The Video !!!

Link: http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/05/02/clinton-advisers-indiana-comments-surface/

Ruh, roh!!!

:wow:

[olkaz]

46. That is AWESOME! He's denying CLEAR evidence! He's going to drag this out!

Oh man, I love it. This gets better and better.

And thanks for the link!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

59. funny how media won't say "nigger" but will say "God damn America"

isn't it odd how selective they are?

The way they do this headline, no one will know what happened.

[npincus]

38. Jake Tapper (ABC) has it:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/clinton-informa.html

[olkaz]

43. Why did he leave out the "n word"? S**t isn't that offensive.

I'm sure it won't matter.

Thanks for the link!

[npincus]

47. and notice he calls Kantor an "informal" advisor in caption.

He has been pro-Clinton for the duration of the primary.

[olkaz]

53. Yeah I saw that too.

The guy has been a part of the Clinton machine for two decades.

I think the writer is trying to soften the blow.

[WillyT]

44. Oh Boy... Drudge Has It !!!

The kiss of death, LOL!!!

Link (top middle column): http://www.drudgereport.com/

:evilgrin:

[WillyT]

48. And... Number One Recommended Diary At DailyKos !!!

Link: http://www.dailykos.com/

Can you say "viral"? I knew ya could.

:rofl::shrug::rofl:

[TragedyandHope]

49. Kick for WORTHLESS AMERICANS of all colors!

:kick:

[rndmprsn]

51. K&R

[gcomeau]

52. Only on firstread so far.

It doesn't count unless they put the video on the air as far as I'm concerned. And they damn well better after trying to bury us in Wright footage for weeks.

[WillyT]

54. Now A Headline At RawStory !!!

Link: http://rawstory.com/

:shrug:

[WillyT]

55. OH NO !!! - Comedy Central Now Has It !!!

Link: http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/05/02/i-wonder-why-george-stephanopoulos-wont-look-at-the-camera/

:rofl:

[olkaz]

57. I know, that's baaaaad news for Hillary

Good lord, they'll have a field day with it.

[liberaldem4ever]

56. K & R!!

[catnhatnh]

60. No No!!!

Listen closely to the audio! He said Bless-ED white niggers.....

[suston96]

62. Whatta shame...It's a fake.....!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith /

Pennebaker: Clip Doctoered

I just spoke to D.A. Pennebaker, the director of "The War Room," who said his film had been doctored to produce a widely-viewed YouTube clip.

In a clip from his film on the 1992 Clinton campaign, posted to YouTube today, Clinton advisor Mickey Kantor is -- according to subtitles -- seen referring to Indianans with an expletive and to his colleague George Stephanopolous with a racial slur.

"He does not say that. He does not say that," said Pennebaker, after viewing the clip.

He said the initial expletive referred to the anticipated reaction in the Bush White House to the fact that Ross Perot's polling numbers were holding strong.

"What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding," said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. "He says they must be shi**ing in the White House."

The second expletive, he said, appeared to have been entirely fabricated, with new audio dubbed onto the original movie.

Pennebaker appeared surprised and amused by the video.

"A thousand people saw that film in theaters and didn't think" the second expletive had been used, he said. "It's very clearly understandable. It's not like it was in Bulgarian."

The sound you hear is the toilet flushing a wet dream away......LMAO!

[thewiseguy]

64. Says the person who cant diffrentiate between a movie and a documentary!

:eyes:

[suston96]

69. The guy that directed the movie/documentary said it was a fake - i.e. "doctored".....nt

[Shakespeare]

66. Actually, it isn't. Kantor has admitted he said it, claims he was misinterpreted.

From the MSNBC blog:

*** UPDATE *** Huffington Post quotes Kantor on what he meant by the expletive: "Indiana was not even on our radar screen," he said, "And I was talking about the polling and not the people... If you look at The War Room, this is not the way Carville or George interpreted my statement. This is frankly libelous."

[zulchzulu]

63. It's ON!

A flurry of incoming heading into the Clinton control room... this is going to be a very interesting weekend.

:rofl:

[spotbird]

65. This is bad

If MSNBC is playing it during the day, it is going to be Ratherized.

I've listened to it, "Those people are shit" part is fairly clear. The N word part is audible, but deniable. The story will just cast Hillary as a victim, again. Can't we focus on stuff that goes directly to Hillary? God knows there is enough of it.

[Dr Fate]

68. I've said all along that Hillary shoulndt have started these race-association games.

None of this really helps DEMS...

The only good thing is maybe DLC DEMS will think twice b/f they play GOP/Willie Horton games again...

[midnight]

70. I listened to the video and wasn't sure what I was suppose to

hear, but nothing seemed wrong. The media should run with a story that broke this week about a women who said her very life was threaten for trying to defend herself from some powerful people in Washington. The story even has sex in it.