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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:38 AM Original message |
hold on a minute about this Kantor thing.... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Considering the whispered tones he used, it's clear he was not saying something he was proud of |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. of course not, but he seems to be "quoting" something.... |
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graycem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
60. He sure seemed to be |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. ...or that what he was saying was just semi-private Sekrit Campaign Stuff... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. "White Ni@@er"..... the DLC codeword... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. links please |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Bullshit |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. exactly. They only say that with no witnesses. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
71. He's technically correct. It may not be a DLC code word, but that iswhat the term................. |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. As much as I hate thinking about the n-word.... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. I really doubt any explanation as to what the phrase meant will help much |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. you're right as a political metter.... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. Are You A Stand Up Comic When You Aren't Posting On DU? |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. thank you for the respectful reply.... |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. N****R is a very bad word to classify ANY human being; black or white |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. Good luck with that. That's like saying a woman is a great c**t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. Uh, nice try. |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Noble effort - I understand benefit of the doubt and all that but |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. how does that make it any better? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
14. Are you a NASCAR driver? |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. Put "those people are shit." into context. Spin away, baby. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Original message |
The media doesn't care about context |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. Sorry - There's no way to put a positive or innocent spin on what he said |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. There was more context to Rev. Wright's comments too. |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. exactly.... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Let me search your posts begging for greater consideration of Rev. Wright's comments. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
54. Goddamn hypocrite. |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. why would I need to? |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. exactly |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. Isn't gotcha politics a sad thing? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. live by the smear, die by the smear.... oh how they hate it when the chickens come home to roost |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. calling someone a "white nigger" is the same as calling them "trailer trash." |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
47. Respectfully, only somewhat accurate. See #41 below |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #47 |
75. oh for the love of God,,. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. I agree, but knowing the origins of these expressions is worthwhile... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. Here's your context |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. exactly |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. you could be right... |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
25. and I could be a pink centaur! I could! prove me wrong! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
27. Yeah, sure |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. I sense missing context, as well... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
30. The pathetic consistent defense of Hillaryworld: "Um, they're just saying |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
33. And also - which pales to what this video is about - is |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
34. omfg, are you serious, deluded, or really that fucking stupid?!? |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. thank you for the respectful reply.... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
59. ok you answered it, you really are that fucking stupid... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
35. Wow denile aint a river in egypt... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
36. He looks like a low rent Gordon Gekko in those suspenders too |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
37. I Guess KKKarl Rove Has Had An Influence On Your Thinking Here..... |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
39. It's from a movie ABOUT the 1992 campaign. A movie?....... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. it's a documentary... a very famous one... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. War Room is a documentary |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
65. The footage contains real-life Clinton people- not actors. It's documentary footage. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. Some context from pre-civil rights-era South... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. and would you think that whites who "associated" with blacks... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. I don't know what is in Kantor's head, but there is danger in using old terms... |
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futureliveshere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
42. Could be, but we dont watch ANYBODY's remarks in context do we?? |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
44. ... |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. It won't matter on context |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
46. What is the APPROPRIATE context for calling someone a "white n-gg-er?" |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. when quoting..... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
48. you may be right about this and there may be even better explanations |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
50. Then that should have been his defense when asked about it |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. didn't know that.... link please.... |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Link to his denial |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. ok, thanks for that.... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. I find this comment by him to be very interesting... |
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marzellino (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
53. Very smart thread |
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pompano (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
55. Do I smell.... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. can't tell what you smell because the link doesn't work... |
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pompano (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I fixed it...sorry n/t |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
57. ITS FAKE! .... link inside |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Calling people in Indiana "shit" was crystal clear. n/t |
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graycem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
58. Sorry.. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
62. I think Hillary should say exactly what you said in a campaign speech. n/t |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #62 |
74. LOL -- well since I'm a "stupid," "hypocritical" evildoer.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Are you a hypocrite for real? |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. all my posts since 2004 are available for inspection.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I'll just take them as they come- thanx. n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
67. #1. he was whispering #2. he was playing to the cameras #3. look at Stephanopoulus's reaction |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. all true.... but he said this "playing to the cameras"? |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
69. A bit of a stretch, your explanation... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. sure, but what's a "discussion" board for? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
81. The remarks in the video are not at all clear as to what he said |
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mindfulNJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Are you kidding??? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. . |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
82. No excuses. They lost Indiana. it's over. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
87. That is my interpretation as well, BUT... |
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