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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:11 PM
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Pig, Beer, Hay, Molasses, Home-Made Bread, and Obama




UNION MILLS, Ind. - Barack Obama finished off a day-long tour of Indiana that focused on rural issues with a roundtable chat at a hog farmer's house followed by a game of PIG that served as a metaphor for the protracted primary race and even featured a direct mention of his rival. (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/05/the_game_of_pig.html)

The farmer, Andy Evers, was an undecided voter who was leaning toward Obama and who also raises corn and soy.

After the Illinois senator spent about 20 minutes talking about healthcare, not taking money from lobbyists, gas prices, uniting Congress, immigration and his children, the farmer asked if he would shoot a few hoops with his 14-year-old son Aaron, who he said had been practicing all night.







"We'll play a quick game of PIG," Obama said, noting they were on a farm. He joked that Aaron would have home court advantage and that the dimming light -- it was dusk -- could prove a disadvantage for an older guy.

The assembled press joined the family to watch the game from the edge of the court.

"I’m feeling a little pressure," Obama, D-Ill., said when he hadn’t made a shot after a few tries. Villicana sunk a shot and then Obama retaliated with a swish. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-to-bball.html)

The score was still even.







Back and forth, the 14 year old and senator shot. Villicana got a P and then got an I.

Obama got a P.

Obama almost had the game finished off. He needed one more shot to win, but he couldn’t make one. They shot and shot. Rain started drizzling and the sun started going down . . .

"He’s tough. He keeps on coming back," Obama commented. Then, referencing parallels to his long struggle on and off the court, Obama quipped, "He’s like Hillary."







With his next chance, Obama took the ball near the imaginary top of the key and fired a jump shot into the net. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/02/obamas_hoosier_hoop_dreams_the.html)

Villicana had one more chance. The ball banged off the rim. Game over.

Pressure encountered. Pretender vanquished. Message sent.

Of course, it was really just 10 minutes of driveway hoops with a local kid.

"Just know that by the time you're a senior," Obama told him as he paused to sign his ball -- "To Aaron. Great game. Barack Obama" -- "you'll be able to run circles around me."








NORTH LIBERTY, Ind. -- Barack Obama did some listening in Michiana today at a barn at the St. Joe. County Fairgrounds, and in a bar in North Liberty.

It was a surprise stop at the VFW that will leave people talking for years and may have some voters reconsidering their pick.

They weren't positive what they were waiting for, but they had an idea.

That rumor turned to reality when Obama turned on the charm signing autographs and mugging with the youngsters.

Then Barack bellied up to the bar and asked for some Buds that were on the house.





Obama and Gen. Scott Gration attended a "mix and mingle" with voters Thursday night at a Veterans of Foreign Wars post in North Liberty south of South Bend.

The 22 people initially in the hall had only short notice about the Obama visit. He stayed about an hour, drinking a can of Budweiser beer, munching on peanuts and talking with veterans about their service, according to pool reports.

VFW Post Commander Harl Shafer, who served in the Army from 1966 to 1968 in Vietnam, got laughs from his crowd when he made Obama and the general sign the guest book as required by a notice posted on the wall.

In the parking lot, the senator was mobbed by a softball team of 10- to 12-year-olds and stopped to sign autographs.



Ashley Burnett, right, shows off an autograph by Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama to her brother Austin outside a VFW post in North Liberty, Ind., Thursday, May 1








SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Sitting on a stool amid hay bales and a wagon in a barn, White House hopeful Barack Obama did his best Thursday to convince Indiana farmers he understands their concerns and will let them farm instead of filling out forms to comply with government regulations.

Shawn Krull, 35, a fifth-generation family farmer, asked Obama for an assurance that if he and his dad and his brother buy 10,000 hogs, Obama won't pass any new regulations on them.

"The regulations there now are adequate but not being enforced," Krull told Obama. "I'm spending more for consultants and paperwork that I know are never going to be looked at."







Obama assured him, "I'm not going to do anything that has not been worked through by the people who know the ground best." Obama also told him, "I do want cheap pork chops."

Obama also plugged inner-city development as a way to save farmland: "We are still building as if gas is a buck a gallon. Part of the answer to our energy crisis is thinking about how we can help our cities so we don't have people two three hours away from work. How do we encourage cities to ... develop in older areas that are being abandoned? That actually makes for a better quality of life."

One farmer asked Obama if it's true he refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Obama told the man not to believe that internet rumor: "That is bogus. These e-mails been sent around, each state, depending on what state I'm about to go into, suddenly you start seeing this smear campaign. I lead the pledge of allegiance when I'm presiding in the Senate, so you can see it on videotape. I've been saying the pledge since I was 3 years old. If you get these letters from Nigeria saying, 'We've got a lot of money for ya,' don't give 'em your bank account number."







The Illinois senator’s invitation-only appearance was for farmers, students and local activists from throughout the northern Indiana area.

The audience listened as Obama talked about his agenda for rural America. He said he wants to provide incentives for young people to stay on family farms, promote alternative fuel sources such as bio-fuels, and invest in schools and other infrastructure in rural parts of the country to help it remain vital.

He said people in rural America reflect the best of American values.

"The fact that rural America is having such a difficult time indicates we've lost focus on our values and our ideals,” he told the crowd.







Obama touched on many topics Thursday, and took several shots at the Bush administration. He accused the White House of not giving the American people the full story.

"This has been a very secretive government, George Bush's government. And that's part of the reason why you've had a lot of scandals, is because everything's done behind closed doors. That's where lobbyists and special interests thrive, is when nobody's paying attention."

Several of the people who attended asked questions about Obama's stance on the war in Iraq. Obama has pledged to pull all U-S combat troops out of Iraq within 16 months of his election. That had one concerned mother smiling.

"I have a son and a daughter-in-law in Iraq, and I believe that Obama's plan to end this war is my hope," said Shauna Dollinger of North Judson. "And I believe he has the answer."

Obama also said he will reach out not only to America's friends, but to our enemies in a diplomatic effort to bring the world closer together.







The Illinois Senator fielded a question at the South Bend Indiana town hall from a voter who commented, "I understand there's a nice plane waiting for you when you become president." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-eyes-af1.html)

Obama said he had been on Air Force One only once before in 2005, when he flew back to Washington, DC with President Bush after attending the dedication ceremony of the Lincoln library in Springfield, Illinois.

"You get on the plane it's big and spiffy, and its got all kinds of people in there doing all sorts of stuff," Obama said describing his first ride.





But what Obama's favorite part of the flight? The safety of knowing the plane likely wouldn't crash when it was toting around a president.

"The truth is the best thing about flying on Air Force One is we were flying though a thunder storm when we got to Washington and we were bumping and shaking and knocking all around and I knew we weren’t going down," he said laughing, "You feel very confident in there, turbulence doesn't bother you at all. You're just like wow – whatever else happens, this plane is staying up."








CHARLES CITY, Ind. -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried on Thursday to win over members of one of his most skeptical audiences: senior citizens. (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/05/01/obama-courts-the-over-70-set/)

Visiting an assisted living center in Indiana, the Illinois senator shared stories about his grandfather’s service in World War II, his grandmother’s frugality and his mother’s battle with cancer.

He also expressed empathy for the daily struggles of older people worried about paying for prescription drugs and health care while trying to get by on a fixed income.







Obama seemed to impress the crowd after a nearly hour-long visit.

Lavera Schroeder, 82, said she found Obama to be a “normal person” who “talked on our terms” and did not use confusing words or jargon that the group would not understand.

“He said his mother tried to get by,” she said. “That’s how we grew up. We ate molasses and home-made bread.”





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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:19 PM
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1. He's soooooo out of touch...
(is the sarcasm emoticon even necessary?)

JIC
:sarcasm:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:43 PM
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21. Jeeze. Look at all those elitists around him!
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:36 PM
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33. I thought we agreed this was "pandering?" nt
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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2. beer from a can. 'nuff said.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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4. In Arizona you learn to love beer in a can. Stays colder longer.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:12 PM
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28. that's how I used to drink my Milwaukee's Best....
Lite.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:59 PM
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37. Oh god...
Milwaukee's Best...Piss warm in a can from being in somebodys trunk all day
We drank that all the time in high school, but only if we couldn't afford the
far superior "Meister Brau" which came in actual bottles! :rofl:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:57 AM
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45. Meisterbräu!
Now THAT brings me back...
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:39 PM
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34. And it's Budweiser, too!
Obama's getting serious about the blue-collar vote if he can stomach drinking Budweiser. What was the joke in Chicago, that they send the wastewater down the Mississippi River to St. Louis, where it's put into bottles and cans and called "Budweiser"?

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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:35 AM
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40. And a Budweiser at that
I rarely drink anymore, but when I do I usually buy a six pack of a good microbrew or an import such as Bass or Newcastle Brown Ale. I used to drink Bud like water in my younger and foolish days, just to get drunk. Tastes like horse piss to me!! I guess you can call me an elitist now; I'm such a beer snob!!:blush: :blush:
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:27 AM
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42. When you travel around a lot
a lot of times you tend to pick something that pretty much every bar will have. When I was all over the country doing construction work, I learned that it was a hell of a lot easier to just drink Bud than to try to remember which beers the bars in whichever BFE town you happen to be in this week has.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:43 AM
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46. I travel a lot also
In the USA and overseas. But to me a Budweiser is like eating at McDonald's and is a symptom of the homogenization of America and the world. I find it much more interesting to order a local microbrew when in the US. Most places now carry a local beer as well and one gets to try and sample many different types of beer. And I wouldn't even think of ordering a Budweiser overseas. Even if they had it, they would laugh you out of the pub. I like an ice cold Bud once in awhile, especially after a hot day of yardwork, but that's about the only time I'll drink one. The only other time I'll drink one if I'm at a friend's house and they offer me one. I never turn down a free beer!!;-) :toast: :beer:

Remember, variety is the spice of life.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:39 PM
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3. kick
:kick:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:43 PM
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5. Thank you for a great post.... again.
:thumbsup:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:57 PM
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6. you're welcome
it's my pleasure, of course
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:04 PM
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7. Your posts on both candidates are about the only sane thing in this crazy forum.
Thank you.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:09 PM
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8. that's nice of you to say
thanks for looking in
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:12 PM
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9. I usually do.
They remind me that there is much to like about both, even though it is easy to get caught up in all the hoopla and nonsense.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:12 PM
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10. Lovely post
and pictures. Thanks :)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:46 PM
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13. .
:thumbsup: :kick:
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:26 PM
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11. What a wonderful post. Thank you so much.
I love that last picture.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:36 PM
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12. the hands pic is amazingly expressive
and, you're very welcome. hope it helps.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:31 PM
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32. yes, it's beautiful.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:31 PM by anigbrowl
I notice he's still wearing the wristband. I started a thread about that with some conservative friends on a mixed board I also frequent, and I haven't heard any flag pin references from them since.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:42 PM
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35. It absolutely is... for real ...
I could be his most adamant opponent and this photo would still bring a tear to my eye. The way we treat our seniors in this country should shame us terribly.




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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:51 PM
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14. The little girl with her bike and brother...
very cute.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:00 PM
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16. he's sooo jealous
:D
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:53 PM
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15. Thanks, bigtree
Posts like this help turn back the tide of sewage in this forum.

Much appreciated, as always.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:40 PM
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19. yeah
and, they keep me out of the gutter :)
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:45 PM
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22. It's getting harder and harder to avoid.
Some days I'm tempted to just dive in and get it over with.

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:03 PM
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17. Well done from a Hillary supporter
Credit where credit is due.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:51 PM
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25. thanks
from another
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:10 PM
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18. THANKS...
for the GREAT pictures! :yourock:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:42 PM
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20. Damn, I'd be exhausted.
And he's got another 6 months to go!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:23 AM
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44. these candidates have very long days
but they seem to get energy from the people they meet along the way
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:16 PM
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23. Tree
Is that Bobby Knight in the background of photo#12. Damn, amazing. Knights for Obama!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:03 PM
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24. heh
don't think so
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:55 PM
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26. Somehow, I don't think so either.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:10 PM
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27. I had such a long day at work... It was awful.
But Bigtree, this thread just lifted me up. Thank you for being such a great person.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:20 PM
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29. Jefferson-Jackson speech tonight
look for the tape. good speeches
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:21 PM
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30. Great Post - As Usual...
I have to admit I always like your Obama threads best, but I always look in on your Hillary threads too.


K&R
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:22 PM
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31. Thank You! K and R
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hoosierhick Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:49 PM
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36. Very, very nice.........
bigtree.........thank you!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:19 AM
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38. dam moving people back to the cities
so we can save our farmland..nice idea but that`s going to take some really hard work....
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:21 AM
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39. Your photo threads have been so delighful throughout this campaign, bigtree.
:toast:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:22 AM
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41. thanks
I'm pretty cool with it. It's helped my own perspective on this campaign.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:31 AM
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43. Bigtree, would you endorse my thread?
Edited on Sat May-03-08 01:32 AM by cbayer
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:05 AM
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47. peace candidate
we threw one overboard already . . . go Kooch!
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