Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the NAFTA / Canada story break on a Friday

[peace13]

before the Ohio primary. Pretty ironic that we have a new scandal and Obama taking the fall once again. I think it is time to get to the bottom of this crap. Where do these things originate? That is the question. Peace, Kim

[babylonsister]

1. Did I miss something? What fall is Obama taking now? nt

[peace13]

6. I'm referring to the Kantor video from 1992.

Hill folk think that Obama people are behind it. See thread #4 for a link.

[babylonsister]

17. Gotcha. But don't they blame everything on Obama? Ignore 'em. nt

[Cant trust em]

2. Bittergate broke on a Friday too. NT

[peace13]

14. The list grows on.

My guess is that it is the rethugs just stirring the pot. Hill doesn't have to do a thing but sit back and watch.

[KittyWampus]

3. where is Obama taking the fall for something? What the fuck are you talking about?

what 'scandal'?

[peace13]

4. The video of Kantor from 1992.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5783297&mesg_id=5783297

[KittyWampus]

5. Yeah. So. What does that have to do with Obama? Or his campaign?

[Aloha Spirit]

7. Exactly as much as robogate has to do with Hillary's campaign, I guess.

[jakem]

9. robogate is linked to Hillary insiders, no?

[Aloha Spirit]

11. not in any substantial, incriminating way, no. Not yet at least.

[jakem]

15. not quite yet, you are right...

Some have also questioned the ties between Women's Voices operatives and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton. Gardner, for example, contributed $2,500 to Clinton's HILLPAC on May 4, 2006, and in March 2005 she donated a total of $4,200 to Clinton, according to The Center for Responsive Politics' OpenSecrets.org. She has not contributed to the Obama campaign, according to the database.

Women's Voices Executive Director Joe Goode worked for Bill Clinton's election campaign in 1992 as a pollster; the group's website says he was intimately involved in "development and implementation of all polling and focus groups done for the presidential primary and general election campaigns" for Clinton.

Women's Voices board member John Podesta, former Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/30/11055/6499

[oviedodem]

8. Because now the media and the Clintons will say his campaign pushed it

[peace13]

10. Do you not hear the cries of Hill folk saying that Obama is behind the story?

They are claiming that the video was doctored and that Obama is behind it.

[KSinTX]

18. Where is your link where Clinton camp makes this accusation?

You are actually attempting to smear both campaigns with your accusation considering the age of that tape.

And a 1995 story in the Sydney Morning Herald said that "As for the good folk of Indiana, they are still recovering from the 1993 documentary War Room, which revealed the grim truth behind the Clinton election campaign. It showed Mr Kantor bursting in on election night to tell other campaign staffers that incredibly, Mr Clinton was doing well even in Republican Indiana. 'And those people are s---!' he declared breathlessly."

Obama may be a good campaigner BUT HE AIN'T THAT GOOD to get news play 11 years before announcing his candidacy. And the Clintons may have mishandled some critical things in their campaign this time BUT THEY AIN'T SO STUPID as to blame him for being 13 years ahead of his time.

So, again I ask, where is your link?

[peace13]

19. Wow..simply wow.

Arrest me already.

[KSinTX]

20. No arrest, just tired of the bashing

I want a war to be done. That won't happen with McSame and this sort of stuff that kills off both Dems with a single shot isn't getting me there. I mourn each day the now 4,065 young men and women and their families who have died in this horrible war and the 2,976 killed on 9/11 whose memories were tainted by it.

edit: e on McSame

[peace13]

21. I agree with you.

I want the war to be done. I have a memorial to the 'soldiers serving and lost' in my front yard with 4000 marker flags so I read you loud and clear. I just see the MSM pushing Hill and I fear that they will actually succeed in getting her to be our candidate. The war will not end with her in the WH. She will push for Iran to be hit next and the quagmire will go on. I have heard her stumping for the Iraq war I have witnessed her fear mongering of Iraq. That is not hype but video that I watched of her speaking,and decided for myself that she is not for peace. That is why I get crazy here.

Thanks for explaining your view. Peace and love, Kim

[newmajority]

12. And if you remember the truth about the Canada/NAFTA thing

It was Team Hillary that was telling the Hosers "not to worry" about NAFTA, not Obama.

Just like that story, this Kantor thing is complete fucking lies and furious spin from the DLC.

[cliffordu]

13. Yeah, they call it dump day for a couple reasons -

For instance, you dump your low fundraising numbers, on Friday and if you have any "dirt" that won't be refuted on the weekend dump it on a Friday, too.

[peace13]

16. It was very effective in Ohio.

Just hope that the folks in PA are a little brighter.

[madrchsod]

22. gramps told an audience in iowa

that he does`t believe in farm subsidies.....

meanwhile the hillary and obama folks can`t see the fucking forest for the trees..

remember---keep your eye on the sparrow