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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:14 PM
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Are You Threatening To Not Vote In November?
Or turning to the darkside and voting for McCain?

THEN FUCKING DO IT ALREADY AND STOP PRETENDING TO BE DEMOCRATS

Every other day, I read shit about how 'I'm not going to vote in November if _______ doesn't win the nomination". Really? Go fuck yourself then. Some Democrat you are. Need anyone be reminded of what the last 8 years has been like? Hold on, scratch that. How about the last 25 years since that assclown Reagan dismantled the middle class?

Get a helmet. And a grip, while you're at it. Yeah, I like one Democratic nominee better than the other. Yeah, I speak my mind. Yeah, I'm snarky and I poke fun. Yeah, I argue and kick and scream. Most importantly, yeah, I'll vote for any Democrat over a Republican any fucking day of the week. If you can't deal and do the same, then you're about as worthless to this party as Lieberman.

And another thing, regardless of the nominee, we will win. We're Democrats: we're tough, strong, smart and there's more of us than them. Stand up for yourself and your party instead of whimping around crying about how 'blah blah blah' issue is going to sink us against the Republicans. Bullshit. This is our contest to lose. All the momentum, all the press, all the money, all the people are behind us! Feel good about yourself, get active and stop being so pessimistic.

Last thing: loosen up and take a joke every now and then. Laughter cures everything.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:16 PM
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1. Absolutely NOT! I don't think the US can survive with another Pub
in the WH. I will vote for whoever the Dem candidate is!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:17 PM
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2. I refuse to vote for anyone running like they are a Republican
I'll leave that up to you to figure out what that implies for the GE.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:28 PM
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10. Think SCOTUS
and if that's not enough -- think Iraq, economy, gas prices, global warming, the loss of the middle class, people who haven't enough money to buy food, and etc., etc., etc.

Any so-called Democrat who votes for McCain or who doesn't vote at all should be ashamed of themselves. Do you want another four years of THIS????
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:46 PM
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19. Its telling how you knew what I meant
That should be a clue to you how you should feel as well.

Im serious, I dont care WHAT the stakes are, I will NOT vote for anyone who campaigns like a Republican.

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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:27 PM
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31. Think Congress.
It's Congress who can decide whether McCain's court appointees go through. The more Democrats in Congress, the better it will be.

I'm voting for the lower part of the ballot. There's a Senate race in New Jersey this year. Hopefully, Lautenberg will defeat DINO Rob Andrews and he's going to need all the help he can get.

The heck with the presidential part of the ballot.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:49 PM
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34. Would you vote Joe Lieberman for President if he were still a Democrat?
Once you sell your soul, you never get it back. The old Clintons are gone, just like old Joe. From now on, they'll be in debt to the same Republican establishment that they used to fight.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:52 PM
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36. Scare tactc. Hillary has proven herself to be a Republican.....
There is no reason in the world to expect her to perform on her campaign promises, since she has proven by her actions that he will advance and work for a GOP/neocon agenda.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:11 PM
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59. Funny
the Repukes are saying that McCain has proven himself to be a Democrat!
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:18 PM
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3. You should check out the Hillary forum: It's going to turn into McCain central on Wed
I've read at least ten posters saying that they're going to work their tails off for the McCain campaign if Obama wins.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:19 PM
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4. Fuck them, too
Have a blast when the Supreme Court takes away your reproductive rights.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:10 PM
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22. I dont see that happening! There is no good team or evil team,...
there are corrupt people all over both sides and they use issues like abortion, guns and religion as ways to divide Americans. These issues are so hyped and cared about that it would stir up more the people more than the government would like to see, they wont bring that onto themselves at least not until they have taken ALL of our rights.

Together we stand divided we fall or divide and conquer, which ever way you want to look at it, thats how they are going forward with their agenda. There are many Americans that are so fucking stupid that they believe that our government officials are a soap opera or a WWE wrestling match and there are people with one letter that are the hero's and people with a different letter that are the villains. People that fall for this shit are brainwashed or just plain stupid and are the enablers of the corrupt.

If these same Americans don't wake up soon, our children and grandchildren are fucked and it is the enablers fault, not the corrupt...they will do what we let them get away with!

The evil side does shit blatantly because that is their role as the villain and the good guys tells us they are here for us, give us a small bone that makes us happy because the villains never give us shit and then they go behind our backs and bend us all over. Remember, one of the most popular hero's gave us NAFTA and The Telecommunications Act of 1996, those were great for the country and our future...thanks Team hero's!

Wake up Americans before its too late and you have to admit to yourselves that it was all your own doing.:rant:
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:20 PM
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5. No... never have, never will make such a stupid threat
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:21 PM
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6. Eww...
no, you have to be completely heartless to vote Republican. I agree with you on the fraidy cat stuff. We will be stronger than the Republicans in the fall and they know it. They don't even like McCain and they damned sure don't like the shape Bush has left the country in. I am more optimistic about this election than the few others I've participated in. We honestly couldn't be in a better position, thanks to the Fake Texan.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:22 PM
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7. Good for you
I share your optimism. We can be positive and tough, all at once.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:33 PM
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13. For sure...
This is going to be a banner year. :)
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:22 PM
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8. so in your mind all that matters is a (D) next to the name?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:23 PM by bowens43
No thanks. I will never again vote for the lesser of two evils. If I don't think a candadte will be a good president , I won't vote for them. No more 'Party Uber Alles' for me. Obviously I won't vote for MCCain but that doesn't mean, even though I have voted a straight party ticket in every major election since 1976, that I will automatically vote for the Democrat this time or in the future.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:39 PM
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15. But the reality is
that it IS the lesser of two evils. Not voting for the (D) is voting for the (R). If you are happy knowing that you helped McAssclown get in the office, then go ahead. I think it is silly.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:30 PM
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24. Here's how I look at it
If my preferred candidate can't seal the deal, then why do they deserve the nomination? And why should I pick up my ball and go home?

Screw that. I'm not begging and pleading that so "much is at stake". In my opinion, America got what it deserved the last 8 years and if they can't figure it out in the primaries and then in the General Election, then maybe we need another 4 years of what the Right has to offer. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to do my part to stop or derail or at least have some input on who's going to hold the handle when the country goes to shit in a handbasket.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:22 PM
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9. Never mind the bollocks...eom
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:28 PM
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11. nope.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:30 PM
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12. Sophie's Choice
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:38 PM by TahitiNut
:puke:


For decades, the 'centrists' have threatened to vote GOP - making a 2-vote difference - and dragged the Democratic Party to the right, losing 1 vote for every liberal with a nose too bruised to hold. That's how 1/3rd of the party has used a "protection racket" in the leveraged buyout of the body (corpse) politic. Play along, fools. We've surrendered to the Corporate Empire. And people wonder why 40% are so embittered they now refuse to vote? (Wow.) There doesn't seem to be ANY limit to how the sheeple can be fleeced when threatened with the sheepdog of SCOTUS.


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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:36 PM
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14. I'm NOT a Democrat. I'm an Independent. Not all consequences are threats, and vice versa. nt
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:41 PM
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18. So why are you here?
Seriously. This site is about furthering the liberal/progressive democratic party.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:37 PM
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25. Because I'm an Obama supporter. It's the best place to keep up with the primary, IMO. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:40 PM
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16. no
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Fermezlabush Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:40 PM
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17. No way I am not exercising my right to vote!
Or vote GOP - which is almost the same.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:47 PM
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20. No, I have a functioning brain....
... most of the time. :P

:toast:
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:01 PM
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21. I will vote for the Democratic candidate
Edited on Fri May-02-08 03:02 PM by TragedyandHope
The issues facing the country are FAR bigger than the nonsense that has gone on during this campaign. McCain will continue Bush's criminal betrayal of America. It's our duty as Americans, Democrats and thinking human beings to keep him out of the White House.

:kick:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:16 PM
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23. Fortunately, I'm a DINO and will vote how I choose.
It's the candidates that who have to earn my vote. If they don't, tough shit.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:44 PM
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26. I wish they would, rather than instead voting for McCain.
But forget who's a Democrat, it's all about what this country, and this world, needs.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:09 PM
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27. I assume you're also addressing the AA community, right?
Because they've vowed to stay home unless Obama is the nominee.

Bake
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:10 PM
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28. Don't pull that underhanded bullshit.
Why do I need to specifically address individual communities when I addressed everyone at once?

Nice try.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:14 PM
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29. If it applies to all, it applies to ALL.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 04:16 PM by dbaker41
They've been threatening to stay home, and getting all kinds of hurrahs here for it. It makes me sick. So if your OP is true, and I think it is, by the way, then it applies to ALL Democrats.

Nothing underhanded about that.

Edited to add link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5785668

Bake
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:15 PM
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39. Bake, we may not see eye to eye
But I'll drive you to the polling station if Hillary is the nominee. I'd expect you to do the same if the shoe is on the other foot.

We're Democrats. If people can't get past that then we've already lost.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:12 PM
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60. I couldn't agree more!!
Tell that to the AA block who will proudly sit home if HRC is the nominee. And the rest of the Obots who would gladly see Pres. McLame before they'd vote for Hillary. I'll vote for Obama if he's the nominee. What about everybody else?

Bake
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:23 PM
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30. I'm voting!
If my candidate doesn't get the nomination, I'm writing in Al Gore - but that's because I live in a state where my vote won't matter.

My state is going to go 80/20 for the dem no matter who it is.

If I lived in a state where it mattered, I'd vote for the Dem nominee because either of them are a zillion times better than McCain.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:47 PM
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43. Yap, yap yap, Wah, Wah, Wah!
You fucking TURNCOAT!! :grr: FUCK YOOOOUUUU!!!!!
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:04 PM
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50. I am loyal only to those that deserve it.
If you would throw you're dignity away blindly supporting a tyrant just because she's running on your party, do it. I won't join you because I think you and the Bush supporters are one in the same. And so you can hate me, if you want, it doesn't really bother me. I'm not here for you, I'm here because right now the Democratic Party is the best chance we have to change this course we are on. If it proves itself to be a corrupt institution, then I won't support it. Your just some tool whose rooting for their "team". In short, fuck you, you non-thinking blind fool.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:12 PM
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53. Kapt'n SHIT in Pants?
You are a selfish, self serving neo-con prick! FUCK YOU!!

You will turn your back on the suffering masses to satisfy your fucking ego??

You are a REPUGNANT!! Get bent!
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:46 PM
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57. Wow, that's bad. I really thought you would be better than that.
If you don't even know how to insult properly, then what good are you? Here I am trying to enjoy your little flame war, and you go and make me feel sad for you. Next you should try to use your words to create some kind of coherent theme about the person you wish to attack. Or you could just keep saying random profanities in between references to Republicans, whatever works for you.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:44 PM
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33. I will not vote in November
if I'm dead.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:50 PM
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35. How can it be a "threat"? Y'all have said you don't need us or our votes....
so quit your bellyaching and move on.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:12 PM
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38. Great way to play the victim
"Boo-fucking-hoo, you don't need us." You've just proven my point: it's not about who you like, but what you stand for. Way to be a team player. We need each other. Period.

Why is it so hard to stand up and be a Democrat? The other side is banking on us being weak, and this is the type of attitude that will hand over a win to McCain. So congratulations, while you sit back and say to yourself, 'I'll show you' and run scared because you didn't get your B-B gun for Christmas, I'll be saying it's your fault because when my conscience, my party, my country called me to duty...

I was there.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:22 PM
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40. No victim here. That's Hillary's purview....
She and her supporters have made it clear that we don't matter and that she doesn't need our votes.

So, please, stop begging us. It is making you look weak and frightened.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:53 PM
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37. Absolutely not! I will be voting for Obama if I have to write him in. nt
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:25 PM
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41. If I'm physically able to vote I will
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:44 PM
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42. I will be voting regardless of who's at the top of the ballot
because there are plenty of issues to vote on down ticket like US Senate, state races, ballot measures and so on. The question is will I vote for president or not (no I won't vote for McCain). If it is a Clinton/McCain race, I would likely skip voting for president.
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truth-warrior Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:49 PM
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44. Nope. I'll be voting in November.
Hillary all the way!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM
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45. Make up your mind.
It's hard to "loosen up" and "take a joke" while I'm busy fucking myself.

I'll threaten anything I like, thanks.

Actually, I plan to vote in November, and not for McCain. I've never not voted, and I wouldn't vote for a republican if he were the only one on the ballot.

I'll probably vote 3rd party, unless we can get a brokered convention and a good candidate.

I've NEVER not voted for the Democrat for president before. I'm 48 years old, and for the first time in my life, I'm leaving my options open.

I can't cast an honest vote for either of the current two.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:53 PM
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46. I always vote...
in every town/state election.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:59 PM
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47. My conscience will be my guide
and I'll do what is best for the Democratic party.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:59 PM
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48. We don't vote, then we lose...n/t
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:00 PM
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49. "In the primaries you fall in love...in the GE, you fall into line"
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:08 PM
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52. The mantra of the sheeple. n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:23 PM
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55. It needed to be said twice!
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:26 PM by Breeze54
:P



You make me :puke:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:23 PM
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56. Oh, you are just soooo worldly!! Please may I kiss your garment hem?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:25 PM by Breeze54
What it must be like to bask in the glow of your presence,

you being soooo 'above it all' and so noble...

sort of like Marie Antoinette... "Let them eat cake"?

May we all 'bow' in your presence.





:puke:

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rove karl rove Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:07 PM
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51. I will vote
come hell or high water. Staying home sitting on my ass isn't what I consider to be "protesting".
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:12 PM
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54. If Clinton gets the nomination, I plan on voting for her.
However, I am likely to become so uninterested in politics that registration deadlines, etc. could easily get by me. It's happened before when the Democrats ran boring, same-old candidates.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:06 PM
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58. After that drama filled post you say "loosen up"?
Lol
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