Here is the "Closed Captioned" and other languages in War Room segment...

[cascadiance]

It just occurred to me that I should look at what the subtitles show for this portion of the tape and how the filmmakers interpreted things as being said. Here's the conversation and the lines shown in closed captioning from the "War Room" DVD. In listening to it, he clearly DOES NOT say "gonna" as the text here indicates, but here it also indicates that he said "shit", NOT "shitting"!

English close captioning:

...

(Steph): "Can You Beep Wendy Please?"

(Kantor): "Oh, You Got it."

(Steph): "Looks Pretty Good."

(Steph): "Looks Pretty Good."

(Kantor): "Look at Indiana."

(Kantor): "Look at Indiana, 42-40. It doesn't matter if we win."

(Kantor): "Those people are gonna shit. Oh, excuse me."

(Kantor): "In the White House, how would you like to be--."

(Kantor): "(whispering)"

(Kantor): "Look at Texas. Go down to Texas."

(Carville): "Even"

(Kantor): "Yeah, 39-39."


Spanish subtitles:

(Steph): "¿Me comunicas con Wendy?"

(Kantor): "Sí, claro."

(Steph): "Se ve bastante bien."

(Steph): "Bastante bien."

(Kantor): "Mira esto. Mira Indiana."

(Kantor): "42,40. No importa si ganamos."

(Kantor): "Esa gente se cagará encima. Perdón."

(Kantor): "En la Casa Blanca, ¿te gustaría ser--?"

(Kantor): (no spanish text here)

(Kantor): "Mira Texas. Empatado."

(Carville): (nothing here)

(Kantor): "Sí, 39,39."


French subtitles:

(Steph): "Tu peux appeler Wendy, s'il te plaît?"

(Kantor): "Oh, vous l'avez."

(Steph): "Ça a l'air très bon."

(Steph): "Ça a l'air très bon."

(Kantor): "Regarde l'Indiana."

(Kantor): "Regarde l'Indiana, 42-40. Ça fait rien si on gagne."

(Kantor): "Ces gens-là vont gerber. Oh, excuse-moi."

(Kantor): "À la Maison-Blanche--, que dirais-tu d'être--"

(Kantor): (no french text here)

(Kantor): "- Regarde le Texas. - À égalité."

(Carville): (nothing here)

(Kantor): "Ouais, 39-39."

[Forkboy]

1. I have no comment until I see the Mandarin translation.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. Any fool knows Cantonese is the tiebreaker.

:grr:

[jmg257]

2. I was curious as to what he did say with "how would you like to be..."

and from a couple other posts, one of an enhanced segment of the actual phrase, it finally, really seems to be "How would you like to be trying to play this in Texas?"...then "Look at Texas, go down to Texas".

Which really makes sense, and matches what I see with what I hear.

"are shitting"...in the white house" is a bit more easy to see/hear.

[Hissyspit]

3. He says "Those people are gonna be shitting."

He's talking about the White House.

The 'gonna' part is extremely low, it is almost not captured, and because of the way his mouth is, his lips almost don't move, but it's there.

Even if I'm wrong about 'shitting' (and I'm not) and he's saying "Those people are gonna shit," he's still talking about the White House.

[dbonds]

5. According to Kantor (the source) he said Those people are shit.

And he said he was talking about the pollsters not the white house.

[Hissyspit]

6. Either way it's not the citizens of Indiana.

[dbonds]

14. Well, there is a big difference though.

So it can't be clear he said the white house was gonna shit, and same time clear he said the pollsters were shit. If those two options are equally as clear, then maybe he did say something else about Indiana.

[Hissyspit]

17. He says "Look at Indiana. 42-40. It doesn't matter. Those people are gonna be shitting."

Whether it's pollsters or White House, it's NOT people of Indiana.

You are grasping at straws.

[dbonds]

18. I'm not grasping. I've never said it was about the people.

Just saying it is open to interpretation. It doesn't clearly say anything.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. He Said The Polling That Showed Indiana Being Tight Caused The Bush White House To Shit

~

[dbonds]

13. Thats not what he says he said. He said the pollsters were shit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Here's The Transcript

Official Transcript: Kantor Never Impugned Hoosiers
May 02, 2008 6:18 PM

Forgoing for a moment the dirty trick of the doctored clip from “The War Room,” which falsely had Mickey Kantor using a racial slur, the filmmaker behind the documentary has posted the clip on his Web site to clarify that other point of confusion -- what Kantor was referring to when he cursed. (An apparent source of confusion since the movie came out and some newspaper writers thought he was cursing Indianans. See previous post for that.)

Filmmakers Chris Hegedus and D A Pennebaker write: "We would like to respond to some erroneous statements made today about our film, THE WAR ROOM. These statements alleged certain remarks to Mickey Kantor that simply are not true. The transcript of the scene in question confirms this."

The official transcript:

GEORGE AND CARVILLE: Indiana, we're ahead.

JACQUELINE: Indiana!

GEORGE: Kentucky.

CARVILLE: Kentucky is five. Michigan is eleven, New York's done.

GEORGE: Holy s---, we're pulling away in Ohio.

CARVILLE: Oklahoma we're up.

GEORGE: Tied in Texas.

CARVILLE: Tied in Texas. It looks good. Now let's just say that. I like the text here.

GEORGE: Can you beep Wendy please? Looks pretty good. Looks pretty good.

MICKEY KANTOR: Look at Indiana. Wait, wait. Look at Indiana. Forty-two, forty. It doesn't matter if we win. Those people are s----ing (oh, excuse me) in the White House. How would you like to be... Look at Texas, go down to Texas.

CARVILLE: Even.

MICKEY: Yeah. Thirty-nine, thirty-nine.

CARVILLE: Perot's kind of holding, isn't he?

GEORGE: He held.

MICKEY: Yeah, he held. His numbers held. I'm sort of surprised, frankly.

***

So Kantor was NOT insulting Hoosiers, he was experiencing a moment of schadenfreude about the Bush (Sr.) White House.

Check it out HERE.

Now back to that other question -- who did the fake clip with Kantor saying the N word?!

It's the definition of a dirty trick -- and from what I can tell all the YouTube links have disappeared. Fingerprints gone.

- jpt

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/official-transc.html


SONNED

[dbonds]

20. And kantor says it was something else.

[rocktivity]

7. And how do we know that THESE weren't doctored?

:shrug:
rocknation

[cascadiance]

11. Because I got them straight off of the DVD!

MYSELF!

If you want to prove me wrong, go rent a copy of it and say where it's different. If it is, also indicate the serial number, etc. on it in case they changed the text between versions of this that were sold. This IS what is on the original War Room DVD!

[Enrique]

8. the captioning was done by Hillary plants

Hillary has operatives everywhere.

[Bluebear]

10. Is Esperanto available?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. What A Day This Has Been AT DU

I had felt bad at the revelation...I feel even worse I have been duped...There are some major league assholes at this site...

[SaveOurDemocracy]

16. gimme a minute...

:evilgrin:


Oops ... anyone got the babblefish link?? :tinfoilhat:

[Hissyspit]

19. Here:

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com

[SaveOurDemocracy]

21. LOLLLLLLLL ... well, thanx.