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Fri May-02-08 06:39 PM
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I've changed my mind (EMBARRASSED) |
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Edited on Fri May-02-08 07:20 PM by ResetButton
I watched and listened LOUD in my studio, and I do believe he says "Those people are shitting". As for the rest of it, whatever he said, you're right, it doesn't make any sense for him to make a crazy racial statement on camera. I apologize for getting sucked in and being a jackass.
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Fri May-02-08 06:42 PM
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1. I've been sayin it all day long. - n/t |
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Fri May-02-08 06:43 PM
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Fri May-02-08 06:57 PM
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13. LOL - and now the crap is debunked as a fraud touched up video - feel proud? |
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Sat May-03-08 02:33 AM
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37. You're not the only one. |
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Fri May-02-08 06:42 PM
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2. Maybe he was embarrassed |
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Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:42 PM by maddiejoan
using a curse word in front of a camera, for a documentary that he knew was going to be seen by millions.
just a hunch,.
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Fri May-02-08 06:45 PM
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6. He seemed the most embarrassed at the 2nd comment |
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the one hill folk claim contained nothing controversial :shrug:
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Fri May-02-08 06:46 PM
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I'm sure you're a body language expert.
face it --you were punked.
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Fri May-02-08 06:51 PM
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9. Don't have to be an expert to read that |
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Wait... maybe some people can't read body language... This might explain why Hillary's supporters have a hard time understanding she's a liar.
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Fri May-02-08 06:56 PM
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12. any actual body language expert |
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knows that Body language doesn't imply intent of the speaker --only perception of the beholder.
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Fri May-02-08 06:43 PM
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4. It looked like George shook his head |
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No after the whisper. The body language tells me he said something inappropriate. Like you said, I don't know why he would have to bend in and whisper the words White House.
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Fri May-02-08 06:44 PM
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exactly it all matches up
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Fri May-02-08 06:48 PM
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Just not sure this is what Obama intended.
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Fri May-02-08 06:53 PM
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I was hoping you had gotten O'reilly's body language expert to weigh in! But yeah, I agree there was some level of discomfort coming from George, not Carville mind you, but he sleeps with Mary Matlin so we all know he's insane!
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Fri May-02-08 06:55 PM
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11. His behaviour is telling--in the opposite direction from what you saw |
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After reading the actual transcript, cranking speakers with headphones, and reading all the crap here, none of it adds up to him saying a slur. Why would he call Indiana people shit if they were winning there? And why would a man who apologises for a mild swear word (and is clearly conscious of the camera in doing so) then immediately say a racial slur? Does any of that really make any sense? No, the transcript makes sense, and matches the original audio.
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Fri May-02-08 07:00 PM
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14. I admit I don't know what he said in the 2nd comment |
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And I never thought it was what was being claimed, but it still seemed strange to me that he'd whisper something that didn't require whispering. That's all I'm saying.
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Fri May-02-08 07:06 PM
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15. I don't know what to think about the whole thing |
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After I first viewed it, I agreed with the Clinton people that he is saying something like "Those people are shitting... in the White House." It makes sense in the context of discussing how well Clinton was doing in traditionally "red" Indiana.
However, I'm not really sure about any of this when I consider the second part. The fact that he leans in, looking guilty, and makes a comment under his breath to Stephanopoulus, who does indeed look pretty uncomfortable makes me wonder. And while I don't know that anyone watching the video can say with 100-percent certainty what he whispers, "worthless white nigger" sounds closer to the words that I hear than any other explanation I've seen given.
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Fri May-02-08 07:21 PM
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17. I think we're wrong on this one |
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Fri May-02-08 07:20 PM
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16. Why would anyone care |
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Fri May-02-08 07:29 PM
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18. The shit/shitting part is arguable. It sounded like "these people are shit" in 1993 |
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at least to the movie reviewer who wrote the review that keeps getting posted here. I doubt he said it, personally, but people should listen and judge for themselves.
BUT,
1. that's got fuck all to do with Clinton as she didn't say it and 2. the very idea that he said the racial slur he was accused of saying is flat out nuts. people who hear it are hearing things.
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Fri May-02-08 07:32 PM
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19. What do you think about those who wanted to include "ni99er" |
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in order to place the race card? Any comments about their intentions?
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Fri May-02-08 07:40 PM
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21. I think it was done by a scummy asshole, and an unskilled one at that |
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people do lots of shitty stuff and post it on youtube.
It could turn out that it was done by someone who supports Obama. It could turn out to have done by someone who supports Clinton or McCain and hoped it would backfire on Obama. It could have been done by an apolitical asshole who wanted to see what they could get away with.
Who knows? It is as relevant to the campaign as that crazy guy who claimed he did coke with and blew Obama in the back of a limo (before failing a lie detector test, of course).
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Fri May-02-08 08:01 PM
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34. I earlier suggested it had been dubbed, with good reason. BUT |
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I have to back off on that, as there was a misunderstanding about the file I was working on.
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Fri May-02-08 08:00 PM
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Fri May-02-08 07:36 PM
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20. Clinton campaign are spinning it again, he said that the IN public are s**t |
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and it had nothing to do with the White House. Get real people and open your ears.
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Fri May-02-08 07:41 PM
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Some here look for excuses instead, trying to keep the issue alive, even though multiple sources have debunked the lie. you stand above the rest.
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Fri May-02-08 07:41 PM
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23. I'm with you. I too apologize. |
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If we're gonna win one for Obama, I'd rather win it the right way.
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Fri May-02-08 07:41 PM
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24. THEN WHY IS HE WHISPERING AND EMBARRASSED? |
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Edited on Fri May-02-08 07:42 PM by olkaz
And why does little Georgie look sheepish at the comment?
I don't know what he said, but it looks awfully guilty.
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Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM
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I should have looked at it again before writing to OP. I watched and listened on my macbook this morning (not exactly audio goodness), and I may have watched the wrong version to boot. Anyway, I cranked it up good this time, and weird body language aside, it doesn't appear to me to match the claim, which considering the circumstances, doesn't make any sense. Whoever is responsible, I think we've been had.
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Fri May-02-08 07:53 PM
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28. because he used the word "shit" on camera and he knows some people go ballistic at curse words? |
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Fri May-02-08 08:00 PM
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32. Uh... are you familiar with James Carville? |
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He has an extremely dirty mouth. And he uses it, constantly. And he's in the scene.
Why would he be nervous right then?
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Fri May-02-08 07:59 PM
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31. cause he caught himself swearing -suddenly realized the tape was running. |
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Fri May-02-08 07:51 PM
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26. I agree -- the 'white n'gr comment wasn't there, but I am waffling on the 'shitting' one now |
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Fri May-02-08 07:55 PM
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29. are you waffles getting cold?? |
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Fri May-02-08 07:58 PM
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30. That just didn't even make sense |
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But happy weekend to you anyway! :hi:
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Fri May-02-08 08:16 PM
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35. back to you..have a good weekend |
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