*** Obama and Hillary about to speak Live -- C-Span

[TexanDem]

Jefferson Jackson Dinner.
Intros now.

[SharonRB]

1. Who's speaking first?

I hope Barack goes second so I can finish watching Keith.

[jezebel]

2. Barack is up first. nt

[SharonRB]

3. Which span?

We've got some guy at the NC fair grounds on 1 and Tonight from Washington on 2. We don't get 3.

[jezebel]

5. It's Cspan 1, I think they're running late. Obama was supposed to be up at 7. nt

[SharonRB]

7. Oh, good

Didn't look like a dinner. Lots of people in bleachers, not at tables. The governor is speaking now. Back to KO.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

They turned the music up to drown out chants of "OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA"

***CSPAN Jefferson Jackson thread - they are booing Gov Easley
I switched on CSPAN at 9:21 and the NC Jefferson Jackson Dinner (Big NC Dem thing)
was on.

They just introduced Gov Easly and there was alot of booing.

Earlier people were chanting Obama Obama Obama and CSPAN turned the sound off,
and then someone turned the background music up REALLY LOUD.

9:22 we don't like our Gov Crash Easly.
Signature lines are currently turned off due to high traffic.

*****************************************************

Stay tuned stay tuned....

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

128. Kay Hagen, (leans to right, favors telecom immunity) is speaking now

I won't be voting for her.

They put her in the race at the last minute because the first guy
who went into the race, Jim Neal - is openly gay.

Neal would be the ideal candidate, but the party bosses
and martian Carville are pushing "lean to the right" Hagen.

Hagen is a blue dog or worse.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

133. frack it, 9:32 Eastern they are having "difficulties" with audio (probably too much chanting Obama)

and too much booing Easley, maybe Hagen, etc.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

148. 9:39 Hagen shut up, people started chanting Obama, CSPAN turned music up to drown it out

mainstream corporate media at it again.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

156. lots of folks holding up Obama signs, young people, kids,

I think they will go wild when Obama gets there and CSPAN
will try to drown them out.

I wouldn't be surprised if they got crazy.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

158. Now gubenatorial candidate Richard Moore (endorsed Obama) is up

both democratic gubenatorial candidates endorsed Obama.

The other Dem running is Lt Gov Bev Perdue.

Its a tight race.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

9:49 The crowd is yelling OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA now and there's no music to drown it out

oh and they just introduced him!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

176. 9:51 some are still cheering him. it took 8 minutes to quiet them

oh he mentioned GK Butterfield, Mel Watt and Rep David Price (they endorsed him)

cheering......

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

178. 10:10 chanting Yes we can, Yes we can -LOUDLY -it sounds like an Obama rally but LOUDER!

They keep chearing him every chance they get!!!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

179. debunked the gas tax holiday, said we need to invest in renewable energy

he's kicking ass, clearly this is an Obama crowd.

They're cheering again!!!!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

181. 10:30 Obama finished, shaking hands, even the secret service men are smiling!

have you EVER seen a secret service man smile?

Wow. They can't help themselves.

Also, when Obama finished, the audience had a sign wave going on.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

182. 10:31 the Obama chanting again, even the music can't drown it out

well they really have it cranked up now though.

[TexanDem]

6. C-Span 1

[democrattotheend]

4. Really? That's unusual.

She always goes first.

[jezebel]

8. thepage.com earlier today said Obama at 7 and Clinton at 8, I assume thats central time nt

[lyonn]

31. She IS first, ha - on now - - nt

[JeffR]

10. delete

democrattotheend scooped me, darn it.

[Auntie Bush]

11. Most everyone on DU will watch and then change the channel.

That's why they remain so blind...they don't listen to anyone who doesn't agree with them...just like bush*! Wow. I just pulled an Obama tactic.
Make up a story and then defend it! I confess. But at least I realize what I'm doing and that's more than I can say for some/too many people around here.

[TeamJordan23]

9. Here is the direct link:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[tokenlib]

12. Hillary is FIRST, Barack is LAST...

..I read an article excerpt that said the order earlier. I also double checked on the Obama blog.

[jezebel]

13. really? Maybe the page had it wrong earlier today. I'm sure he had Barack first, cause I thought

good I can turn it off early.

[Adelante]

18. I read it also nt

[democrattotheend]

32. She usually speaks first when they speak back to back

I think that's probably choice. I can hardly blame her. If I had to give a speech, I sure as hell would not want to follow Barack Obama!

[blm]

47. I just came from an Obama event in Charlotte - they rushed him out to his plane, but no way did he

get on the plane by 8:00. I'll be surprised if he gets to the dinner by 9:00.

[goclark]

183. How was the event in Charlotte?

[blm]

186. Pretty big - and the crowd was, of course, excited. VERY diverse. Ready to work.

.

[blogslut]

14. Hee hee

The sound cue flub. The Stones? Start Me Up? Hmmm. ;)

[blogslut]

15. I totally called that

I'm not sure I would have chosen that particular Stones tune. It rocks but...well, it's all dirty/nasty. :)

[Pirate Smile]

29. I was surprised to hear that playing. LOL.

[Muttocracy]

16. was the "dinner" a smaller fundraiser earlier and this is the big rally after? nt

[blogslut]

17. I tthink they're just running late

And picking wrong tunes ;)

[Muttocracy]

19. appealing to boomers - totally biased!

:grr: :eyes:



kidding - I like CCR

[blogslut]

20. The Creedence is fine

It was the Stones tune. "Start Me Up" - played right after a female speaker finished. Ever taken a good listen to that song?

[Muttocracy]

26. it seems like poor song choices happen a lot at these rallies

I don't remember specific ones, but there were some goofy ones earlier this year.

[blogslut]

21. Hillary up first

Now

[TeamJordan23]

22. Hillary up right now. Obama will follow. nm

[K Gardner]

23. Ugh.. somebody post when he's up. I can't listen to her shriek.

[tokenlib]

24. Don't ya love it when they're back to back..n/t

[Pirate Smile]

25. When did they switch who was going first? I'm not surprised though.

[democrattotheend]

33. I think she prefers to speak first

I can't fault her for that. I wouldn't want to follow Barack Obama!

[livetohike]

38. However, she did whine about always getting the first

question during the debates.

[democrattotheend]

43. Yeah, but that's different. That's her forum to shine.

When they speak back to back he wipes the floor with her, as he would with just about anybody. She's not a bad speaker, but even Barack's critics will acknowledged that he's a pretty extraordinary speaker.

[livetohike]

50. It reminds me of the argument the Who and Jimi Hendrix had

at the Monterrey Pop Festival -- they didn't want to follow Jimi :-).

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

180. no way can she follow him when he's giving a speech, especially this one he's kicking butt

this is one of his best deliveries yet!

[livetohike]

185. It really was! My husband came in while I was watching

He asked me if it was an Obama rally someplace :hi:.

Yes we can! He was awesome tonight.

[blogslut]

27. How many people are there?

That crowd sounds massive

[milkyway]

30. 950 at the dinner tables, 4,000 in the stands (dinner from the hot dog stand, I assume).

:)

[blogslut]

37. sweet

Good for Indianans :)

[Pirate Smile]

It is in North Carolina. Tomorrow night it is in Indiana.

[blogslut]

52. I suck

My apologies. :)

[and-justice-for-all]

166. Where and when??? I am off tomorrow..

I would love to go!!! Indiana!

[TeamJordan23]

28. Clinton: If Obama is the nominee, I will fight for him (looks like she is preparing for defeat)

[Kittycat]

51. Followed by the crowds chanting "O-BAM-A O-BAM-A"

Then as it fades, you hear a quieter chant of "hill-a-ry"

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

131. they turned the music up to drown out the chants of OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

The media is evil.

[AlinPA]

34. So far she is talking like a Democrat. No Obama bashing yet. nt

[jenmito]

71. She DID bash him when she said something about getting things done-not just talking about it.

Same ol' same ol'.

[olkaz]

35. There's that southern accent! Oh lord, Hillary.

Do it again. It makes you come across so genuine.

[tokenlib]

39. It's so annoying when she does that...n/t

[Kittycat]

61. At least she does it with her Deep Voice and not the Screechy one.

[Muttocracy]

123. I heard that too. I grew up in the south and have less of an accent than that! nt

[mystieus]

36. Link?

[TeamJordan23]

40. Right here

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[mystieus]

65. Thanks.

[AlinPA]

42. Gas prices. Oil companies should pay the gas tax, not people this summer.

[Bensthename]

41. Hillary is pandering now,

[AlinPA]

44. Yes. On the gas tax being paid by oil cos.

[olkaz]

45. There she goes pandering. She's smarter than this.

Hillary, the SD's don't like you promoting a plan that won't work, and won't get support.

Oh well.

[Lucky 13]

46. Did she just get BOOED?

When she said, "Take on countries with oil"

[olkaz]

48. I'm not sure, but it wasn't all applause

[AlinPA]

53. Not too much applause for the gas tax stuff.

[AlinPA]

62. Sucking up to Edwards, really pandering heavily.

[AlinPA]

66. Now thanking Eliz. Edwards, re: health care.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

136. that pandering works with people in poorer locals who dont have internet

I know because I went canvassing for several hours today in a mostly
African American neighborhood.

[AlinPA]

49. I thought I heard boos when she thanked the governor for his support earlier.

[Kittycat]

57. She's getting boo'd left and right.

When she mentioned Easley - it was quite obvious.

[Bensthename]

63. when she talked about her gas tax bs she got booed

[TeamJordan23]

54. She is trying to direct people to her website (probably b/c she is broke again). nm

[milkyway]

55. Fat chance of Clinton actually getting a windfall profit tax signed into law. Does she

know who the current president is? She knows everything she is saying about the gas tax is nothing but hot air for the gullible.

She wants to use the federal treasury to pay people $28 for their vote.

[pinkpops]

56. 100 - 150 mpg? What kind of SUV is that?

[kimsterdemster]

58. if she went last...

people would start leaving and it would look bad for her.

[olkaz]

59. Is this 10k tax credit a new policy?

I dont remember ever hearing this.

[kid a]

60. would you please post when obama is up. thanks!

[TexanDem]

91. Hillary is finished. Should be pretty quick now.

[kid a]

101. thanks

[TeamJordan23]

64. She is pandering to John Edwards people now. nm

[AlinPA]

69. Will end NCLB.

[AlinPA]

70. Bragging about being endorsed by two generals.

[AlinPA]

72. Talking about veterans, crowd is pretty quiet and not applauding much.

[pinkpops]

73. I know about General Motors - who is the other one?

[AlinPA]

77. Missed the names. Sorry.

[Connie_Corleone]

78. General Electric?

[redstate_democrat]

102. GOOD ONE!!!

[K Gardner]

86. ROFL !

[olkaz]

67. Senator Punjab now getting all riled up saying she's going to improve trade policy.... /yawn

Heard this before.

[jenmito]

68. She gets on my nerves with her constant "jabbing" motion, like she's punching (new tough image).

I guess her drama coach taught her that.

And her voice going UP at the end of most sentences instead of down. What a phony.

[lyonn]

90. Petty I know, but, I wish she would show some expression

She either raises her eyes wide or is smiling the same smile. How do you do that? Most people at least frown from time to time.

[jenmito]

96. Not petty. It goes to her sincerity IMO...

Yeah, I saw that. Very unnatural. She's trained to the hilt.

[AlinPA]

74. McCain = Bush, war, economy.

[jenmito]

84. McCain=Hillary.

[marions ghost]

75. "a Department of Justice

that actually stands for justice"

We will guarantee that every vote is counted..."

"End the unfunded mandate No Child Left Behind"

"Restoring America's leadership in the world...end the war in Iraq"

"General Shelton endorsement...I have been endorsed by 2 former chiefs of staff"

"To end the war in Iraq with honor...that is what I will do"

"Taking care of the veterans, health care and services, 21st century GI Bill of Rights"

"john McCain = more of the same"

[lyonn]

94. I'm good with all those quotes except the "To end the war in Iraq

with honor...." Those were Nixon's words during the Viet Nam war. So, I voted for him, he was convincing. All lies, the war escalated!

[marions ghost]

151. yeah

I know what you mean. That "with honor" provides a lot of wiggle room when it comes to wars....

The pursuit of honor & saving face consumes so much needless time and energy. Bringing them home would be honorable, period. Anything else is just insanity now.

[jefferson_dem]

76. Anyone notice yet a change in her delivery - like she's on a testosterone diet - or grown a pair?

It's like a forced masculinity. Ack.

[olkaz]

80. Testicular fortitude meme. Pansy meme.

Last ditch effort to paint her as the only strong one, and to paint Obama as effete.

[jenmito]

81. Yes. Her voice and her constant jabbing motion. She used the word "fighter" about 4 times or more

so far.

[jefferson_dem]

87. Gawd. Why can't she just be herself...whatever that is?

Fear of having to put up with her constant make-overs is reason enough to support Obama. At least he's real.

[jenmito]

98. It's sad when you have to wonder "which Hillary will show up" each time.

I agree. She's so phony and he's SO real.

[K Gardner]

83. Its because she's not a "pansy" !

[AlinPA]

88. She's done. Spoke like a Democrat all the way through. She'd better, it's the

Dems' Jefferson - Jackson dinner!

[Oleladylib]

92. If she's a pansy..Baby Bama is a Whus!

[Sparkly]

89. She seemed the same as usual to me, and did just fine.

:shrug:

[marions ghost]

93. Somebody where I am

says she looks more "natural," like she's more sure of herself. It's so hard to judge women on that masculinity scale...Hillary is pretty tough for a human of any gender. This was a strong speech from her IMO.

I'm trying to be objective, just commenting on appearances.

(I support Obama).

[AlinPA]

97. She spoke like a Democrat. Good speech except for some pandering on gas tax

and J. & E. Edwards. (I support Obama now)

[AlinPA]

79. I am not a shrinking vioet and will keep fighting.

[AlinPA]

82. Abolitionists, civil rights, pandering to blacks.

[AlinPA]

85. Good line, she and Obama could be president because of womens right, civil rights.

[Adelante]

106. I think she's improved as a speaker since last year nt

[futureliveshere]

95. Did Obama speak yet? I am just seeing some music and photo ops.

[jenmito]

99. No. He's next.

[AlinPA]

100. Not yet 9:14P

[futureliveshere]

103. Ok, music over.. looks like next event starting. BO I hope.

[AlinPA]

104. Gov Easley up now.

[futureliveshere]

105. ooh.. winner on tuesday.. winner in november in this state.

didnt he support Clinton?

[my3boyz]

108. He thinks Dems will win N.C. in November? LOL No wonder he endorsed

Clinton. He is delusional!

[futureliveshere]

109. Is it my imagination or is he getting a flat response? How was the crowd earlier?

[K Gardner]

112. The response is worse than flat. This is evidently an Obama crowd, not happy with his

endorsement.

[futureliveshere]

120. Right thats what I thought!! Cool..Should be awesome when BO arrives.

[AlinPA]

110. Talking about senate race (critcizing Mrs Dole).

[L0oniX]

107. Thanks for the warning

[my3boyz]

Is he a popular Gov? Why is he leaving? Term limits? nt

[jefferson_dem]

111. Is the Guv'na drunk? I mean that seriously. "We have two Democrat candidates..."

Ouch...

[my3boyz]

113. LOL. nt

[blogslut]

114. His voice is shot

That's for sure.

[AlinPA]

115. His voice is scratching pretty bad. Very passionate speaker.

[AlinPA]

117. Sound system is crashing there.

[my3boyz]

125. Are they trying to mess it up before Obama gets up there? JUST JOKING! nt

[tishaLA]

116. wtf is with his voice?

he sounds like he's in the middle of a very uncomfortable puberty

[my3boyz]

121. Struggling to force the Clinton lies out? I'm not watching til Obama is up! Just a guess. lol

[BeyondGeography]

118. Thank you, Governor Easley, for endorsing the other candidate

What a hectoring, voice cracking, embarassing performance.

[jefferson_dem]

139. No shit. He didn't exactly get a rousing ovation there either.

That was not pretty.

[blogslut]

119. Sounds sure is funky

Is that me or the feed?

EDIT ADD: Screen now sez "Audio Difficulties".

[Connie_Corleone]

122. It must be the feed. I'm getting the same thing.

[kid a]

124. his "machine" is getting ready for obama

[AlinPA]

130. My wife just said about the same thing!

[futureliveshere]

126. voice was bad, but the governor'e voice was cracking bad too

[AlinPA]

127. Senate candidate (State Senator) Kay Hagan talking

[blogslut]

129. I like this Kay Hagen so far

:)

[AlinPA]

132. I do too, blasting Dole. There goes the sound again "audio difficulties " on screen.

[futureliveshere]

134. sound seems fixed now

[Kittycat]

I really hope they get that fixed before Obama comes on.

[AlinPA]

135. Sound on CSPAN cutting in and out.

[my3boyz]

138. Don't tell me they are trying to ruin coverage of Obama's speech? ugh...

[futureliveshere]

140. sound very clear on my machine now.

[my3boyz]

141. Ok. Good. Thanks.nt

[futureliveshere]

143. You'r welcome.

[AlinPA]

142. Hope it holds.

[futureliveshere]

137. She's good.. very coherent and hard hitting. Is she supporting Obama?

[futureliveshere]

144. Anyone knows who she supports. Sounds a lot like Obama talking points. Very well delivered.

[futureliveshere]

146. sounds popular too... got a better response than the governor.

[blogslut]

184. Don't know

But if she were running in my state, I would vote for her. :hi:

[blogslut]

145. Ruby Slippers for Liddy Dole!

Kay Hagen is great!

[Muttocracy]

150. that was awesome

bit of a dig against HRC too (not a NYer)

Oh, look, they're playing hip younger music for the kids!

[SharonRB]

155. That was a great comment!

Getting ready for Obama now.

[blogslut]

147. The music took a turn

Guess who's coming? :)

EDIT ADD: It's the State Treasurer, Richard Moore. :goofy me:

[TeamJordan23]

149. Lets start another thread when Obama starts. This one is getting long. nm

[Muttocracy]

153. go for it! nt

[jefferson_dem]

152. OutKast in the House!

Woo Hoo... :woohoo:

[AlinPA]

154. Music and waving of Obama signs. (floor demo)

[AlinPA]

157. Candidate for Gov. Richard Moore.is on.

[goclark]

161. How much longer before Obama?

[AlinPA]

162. Probably about 10 min or less by the time this guy is done and they intro. Obama

[futureliveshere]

Now finally Obama I hope.

[blogslut]

159. Richard Moore is hot

I'm just sayin'

[bullwinkle428]

164. Funny...I was thinking the same thing about Kay Hagan!

[blogslut]

177. I loved her

Ruby slippers to Liddy Dole. Yes! Yes!

[KAZ]

160. Time for a new thread?

I'm not sure I know how to do it. Never started a thread on DU in 6 years. Sad, huh.

[Muttocracy]

163. I think TeamJordan (a few posts up is going to get one up soon)

Just hit "Post" (the pencil icon at the top of the screen) and make sure you're in the right forum (esp. GD vs. GD: P)

[futureliveshere]

167. Listen to the CROWD GO!! WOOHOO!!

[futureliveshere]

173. That was like in WWF or Rocky or something.

:)

[rhombus]

165. New Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5791509

[Muttocracy]

171. thank you! nt

[blogslut]

168. Yikes!

The Obama chant is loud.

[Muttocracy]

169. a 2nd thread is up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5791509

[VenusRising]

170. LOVE the chants for Obama!

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

[dbmk]

Can you say rock star?

[graycem]

172. What a reception he's getting!

Wowsers... :D

[blogslut]

174. They're running this event like a rock show

Golly

[dbmk]

175. Almost 4:00 here in Denmark

Should be in bed at least 1 h ago. Now I have to stay up a little longer.
Damn him.