I do not think this is a far cry...

[and-justice-for-all]

but I will bet you, that whomever gets the nomination, they will pick the other for their VP.

You can not get anymore united then having the 2 biggest Democrat Presidential Candidates in history running on the same ticket. It could not be a more perfect union and the best way to unite a party that is split down the middle.

I think it would rock and be in HRC's, Obama's as well as OUR best interest, to do so.

So lets stop the bashing and start the uniting!

[goldcanyonaz]

1. I agree with you. But, we are not in the majority around here.

[rove karl rove]

2. no Obama/Hillary or vice-versa ticket is anywhere on the horizon

Both are in it to win and neither will settle for being number two.

[goldcanyonaz]

3. Oh, you have inside information?

[roguevalley]

30. do you?

[and-justice-for-all]

5. We will just have to wait and see about that...nt

[DJ13]

4. Shotgun weddings never end well

Would YOU want to be President with Hillary as VP and Bill hanging around?

[and-justice-for-all]

7. I do not think that they hate each other...

and the VP and the President are rarely, if ever, in the same vicinity of each other.

[DJ13]

8. It would be inter office warfare between the two staffs

And I have a feeling Obama doesnt like her as much as you think he does.

[and-justice-for-all]

12. Well, their not in love with each other..

but Kerry and Edwards did not exactly see eye to eye either. But they still ran together and it was a good combination.

PS: I miss John.

[graycem]

20. Maybe Obama

will ask him. Make us all happy. :)

[goldcanyonaz]

15. I bet the like each other just fine. Most competitors respect their opponents.

[Solomon]

6. It will feel tainted, from both sides of view.

What I don't understand is that if Hillary would consider being VP, why doesn't she negotiate that instead of continuing on?

[and-justice-for-all]

9. They both need to try for the nomination..

and I see no reason for them not to.

It keeps the fire burning, and this is a hot race. McSame is pretty much ignored and will get his ass handed to him by either HRC or Obama.

[Solomon]

18. Not when one of them is tearing down a fellow democrat.

I just don't get this win by any means stuff. That's what republicans do.

[Solomon]

19. delete

[goldcanyonaz]

10. In my opinion, they both continue to get as many new Dem's registered and interested in the GE.

Democrats have been the center of attention all season, we have never had such a race with a white woman and a black man competing for the highest office in the land. It is hell exciting for many.

[and-justice-for-all]

17. I agree..nt

[RichGirl]

11. I TOTALLY agree --.

There is such immaturity here at DU. People here actually believe all the spin and think that Clinton and Obama must surely hate each other. They don't. But, it wouldn't even matter if they did. They don't pick the VP based on who they like. The party picks the best choice to win. Kerry didn't want Edwards. It was actually Bill Clinton who talked him into it. Reagan hated Bush Sr. so much that in all the years he was VP he was never even invited to the White House.

So...kids, your hysterics don't mean a thing. This isn't an election for president of the student council. I can guarantee you that who ever wins the nom, they will not be checking DU for guidance on running mates.

[and-justice-for-all]

16. That was sweet, thank you...nt

[newmajority]

13. What is in OUR best interest is removing the DLC cancer from this party once and for all

And the opportunity has never been better to do so. Shut down the Clintons, you shut down the DLC.

[gcomeau]

14. I don't want to 'bash'...

...but the arguments against this idea almost necessarily involve doing so. I'll try to keep it as mild and clinical as possible however.

Adding Clinton to the ticket would be a horrible match with Obama. For one thing after the tactics she's used against him very publicly for months now in the campaign they won't exactly have chemistry. And it would be seen as a cynical poll based demographic manipulation to stick them together at this point instead of Obama picking someone he truly wants to spend the next 4 years working with, don't think people are too stupid to pick up on that. And Obama's strength is that against him McCain has a rough time really motivating and turning out his base. Against Clinton they come out in droves. Just the word "Clinton" gets the reddest of the red voters slavering, and it doesn't matter if she's on the ticket as VP that will be used to absolute maximum effect by the RNC telling all their base we're looking at "the Clintons back in the White House" if they win.

And beyond that, I wave no interest in seeing the tactics utilized by the Clinton campaign rewarded in any way shape or form. And I am hardly alone in that opinion. If we keep giving people prizes for acting this way then they're going to keep doing it. Forever.

[RichGirl]

22. Oh please!

Make a long list of all of Hillary's evil deeds and tactics and you'll have a work of FICTION. It's all blatant exaggeration, misrepresentation and figments of the imagination from a hate filled mind. Are you forgetting that she and Obama are just a hair from being even? Obviously A LOT of democrats support her. Indiana is one of the reddest state and she's doing great there. Hate clouds judgement. Do yourself a favor and let go of it.

[gcomeau]

35. Oh really?

I saw Hillary announce to the nation that she had the experience necessary to be president, that MCCAIN had the experience necessary to be president, and that Obama "had a speech".

I saw Hillary announce to the nation that she met the "commander in chief threshold"... that MCCAIN met that threshold, and that you'd have to ask Obama if he did.

I saw Hillary stand in front of a national television audience at that farce of a debate Gibson and Stephanopolous ran and try to associate Obama, a fellow democrat and the leading candidate for the nomination with over FORTY states having voted already... with HAMAS. While Obama stood up there and, when handed an opportunity to hammer her on her blatant bald faced Bosnia lie... defended her.

I saw Hillary run a textbook fear mongering ad with every "be afraid, be VERY AFRAID!!!!" bit of visual imagery you could pack into it, including Bin Laden for god's sake, to try to convince people to vote for her over another Democratic candidate based on their fears of the scary awful things that might happen if they didn't.

Which part of that is fiction, exactly? Do tell where exactly the "blatant exaggeration" comes into play. Which aspect of any of that is a figment of my imagination? Please, enlighten us.

[Hansel]

21. I don't see Obama picking Clinton.

She and Bill are the antithesis of what he stands for and they would undermine him at every turn.

However, I think Clinton would be forced to put Obama on the ticket by the superdelegates in exchange for them handing her the nomination--in the unlikely event that that would ever happen.

[donheld]

32. I think Hillary wants top spot or no spot.

[washingdem]

23. If Hillary was VP, Obama would have to fear for his life.

[Hansel]

26. Good point.

[Yossariant]

24. NO! It's a losing ticket.

[and-justice-for-all]

29. Not likely...

The only loser I see is McSame.

[khaliljohnson]

25. I don't see it that way

These candidates have slinged too much mud on each other to join forces.

[Lady-Damai]

27. Please explain me how this would be a perfect union? n/t

[casaloma]

28. I agree with OP

I can't THINK of a president/vp pair that were buddies. Historically they just pick whoever will help out with the part of the country the presidential candidate isn't from. From that POV Hillary/Obama don't really help each other. They need someone from the west, maybe. In any case, I don't think liking each other has anything to do with it. It's politics.

[scheming daemons]

31. If Obama picks Clinton, a large part of what makes him appealing is gone......

You can't run as a "change agent" and then pick a VP who is part of the very thing that is wrong with Washington.


We need to get away from having Bush's and Clinton's in power. We're not an oligarchy.

[HuffleClaw]

33. neither are the 'biggest Democrat Presidential Candidates in history'

but have sure been hyped as such by a republican-owned media

i can't see either of 'em picking the other as veep, particularly after the overblown rivalry that has been the hallmark of this campaign season.

[bhikkhu]

34. Looking at Obama and Clinton...I just don't see VP material

Neither of them have it, and stuffing someone in the role who doesn't fit would not be a pretty sight. IMHO.

[davidpdx]

36. Though it is a nice thought, I disagree with you

Here is why:

1) Hillary Clinton is likely not going to win the nomination, which leaves her as the Vice-Presidential nominee. I don't see her accepting the nomination even if it's offered to her, especially given the fact she would not have the same amount of power as vice-president if they won.

2) I seriously doubt that either Hillary or Bill Clinton would want to play second fiddle to Obama. And before someone chimes in and says Bill is not running, yes I know that. However, Bill Clinton is an integral part of the campaign and would play likely have some role in his wife's administration. I've seen many people on DU advocating for a Clinton/Obama ticket even IF Obama wins the nomination, this is just nuts.

3) There are alternate ways of unifying the party other then putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket. One of them would be to ask Clark or Bayh to be vice-president (both of whom are strong supporters of Clinton). Both of them have excellent credentials and would be an asset to the ticket.

4) As someone else mentioned, putting Clinton on the ticket goes against the anti-establishment theme of this race. Many of the people who support Obama (including myself) feel strongly about changing the way things work (like it or not). I also think, despite repeated assertions that they don't exist, that the Clinton's history do carry some issues with it.

I think the whole unity ticket is frankly over rated and not being thought through well. There are plenty of ways to bring about unity in the party without caving into putting Clinton on the ticket. The question is will people keep their minds open about those possibilities or are we going to continue to hear the continued call something that won't happen.

Go ahead and flame away with calling me an Obamabot.