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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:18 AM
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"This Is About As Pristine An Example Of Clintonian Deception And Parsing As You Are Going To Find."
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On Monday, I wrote about Hillary Clinton airing an ad decrying the closure of a defense manufacturing factory that her husband, Bill Clinton, helped close by approving the sale of the company to a Chinese state-owned firm. Now, ABC News is running with the story, and uncovers some more ugly details. The Clinton campaign has responded not by fessing up, but by putting out more dishonest deceptions.

From Jake Tapper:

"A memo prepared for Bayh by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service earlier this year stated that the Clinton administration could have objected to the sale under CFIUS, but it did not...In 2000, also during Bill Clinton's presidency, Magnequench purchased from UGIMAG the factory in Valparaiso that manufactured the Neo magnets. President Clinton's administration took no steps to stop the purchases in 2000, either."


The sale was a pretty serious national security issue, not so much because the technology was sensitive, but because the sale means our military has to rely on foreign companies for critical weaponry. Here's Tapper:

The two Chinese companies were headed by the husbands of the first and second daughters of then-Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping. One of those daughters was at that time "vice minister of China's State Science and Technology Commission, whose responsibilities included acquiring military technologies by whatever means necessary," according to David Cay Johnston in Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Corporations Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You With the Bill).

"Complaints about the sale of Magnequench were made to the U.S. government because of the military applications for the magnets," Johnston reports. "Still, the Clinton administration, an ardent proponent of globalization, approved the sale."

Around that time, Shingleton says, "there was talk about the national security issue and the loss of jobs because they were leaving. Some of the higher-wage jobs left immediately . I knew personally some people who were managers and who lost their jobs."


Not surprisingly, the Clinton campaign is compounding its deception with more deception as it tries to explain away this latest controversy. McClatchy today quotes Clinton spokesman Jonathan Swain claiming that "In 1995, when this group bought Magnequench, there were assurances made that production would stay in the United States." But as ABC recounts, the Congressional Research Service reports that the state-owned Chinese company that Clinton allowed to purchase Magnequench "promised to keep those Anderson, Ind., jobs in the U.S. only until 2005."

This is about as pristine an example of Clintonian deception and parsing as you are going to find. First comes the pander - an ad that conveys that signature Clinton bite-the-bottom-lip, feel-your-pain message of empathy and outrage. Then comes the revelation that the whole thing Clinton supposedly feels bad about was originally brought about by the Clinton administration, which she endlessly touts. And finally there is the lying - pretending that there were "assurances" that what happened wouldn't happen, when in fact those assurances were not what's being claimed.

With both Indiana and North Carolina being among the two worst-hit states by the Clinton-backed NAFTA/PNTR policies that this Magnequench controversy epitomizes, you would think this would make a perfect issue for Barack Obama to start talking about.

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Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/abc-digs-into-clinton-tra_b_99473.html

:shrug:

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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:24 AM
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1. This campaign is really going to slam Bill's legacy. They'd have both been better off had she not
run at all, or at least dropped out a month ago. So would have our country. rec'd
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:13 PM
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10. Definetly haven't been the
"power couple" to leave well enough alone. More like the bushits with enough rope so they can do their thing.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:28 AM
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2. Lying to cover up lying...
It gets you every time.

At least I hope it does.

K&R.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:30 AM
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3. But.. but.. at Hillary Hub it says... oh, nevermind. K&R
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:36 AM
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4. Frankly I think this is part of why "bittergate" came about. The sleezy Clintons KNOW
Edited on Sat May-03-08 11:41 AM by Triana
people are PISSED about their jobs, lives, livlihoods, and DIGNITY being sent overseas for corprat profit - and they KNOW that THEY (the Clintons) are the ones who are primarily RESPONSIBLE for that via NAFTA.

So when Obama said "bitter" the Clintons were oh-so OFFENDED because it was too close to the TRUTH of what the CLINTONS have done to these people with NAFTA.

We can't have anybody getting off on THAT subject can we?

YES

WE

CAN

And we should. Hillary tromping around the country telling people she's going to "change" NAFTA and that she "cares" so much about all these jobs her and Bill sent out of the country is just PURE PRETENTIOUS HYPOCRISY -

and PRETENTIOUS HYPOCRISY is the Hallmark of REPUBLICANS.

DLC = Republican
Hillary & Bill = Republican

Hillary doesn't give a rat's ass about those jobs or those people. She cares about increasing PROFIT for the multinational corporations and their lobbyists who BOUGHT her.

And that's ALL.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:03 PM
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9. .
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:42 PM
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14. ..
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:43 AM
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5. B...b...but...REVEREND WRIGHT!! No wait....TONY REZKO!!
Quick! Someone throw out a red herring about Obama before the jig is up!!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:03 PM
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7. LOL !!!


:hi:
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dazzlerazzle Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:03 PM
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6. msm failure
The very fact that the one factory in the country making these guidance magnets loses the jobs to a communist country should have been enough to have the deal stopped.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:01 PM
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8. Kick !!!
:kick:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:17 PM
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11. WHERE IS THE MEDIA?
Oh yeah, this doesn't fit the narrative. Click.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:51 PM
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12. Busy Trying To Hold On To The Status Quo...
Edited on Sat May-03-08 02:59 PM by WillyT
:mad:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:41 PM
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13. Kick !!!
:kick:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:18 PM
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15. Clinton has blamed Bush for both WTI(Jackson Stephens friend) and Magnequench
Both decisions were Bills. Bush had nothing to do with either. Magnequench eventually moved in 2003, but only because they got approval from Bill Clinton. There is some concern the fund raising done from Chinese interests may have played a roll in approving this sale to a Chinese company and moving it to China.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:00 AM
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18. Hadn't Fully Reflected On The China Connection...
Interesting...

:shrug:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:28 AM
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20. It hasn't been fully investigated, but some think there could be a connection.
Edited on Sun May-04-08 01:51 AM by caligirl
Ill try to find the article and post here.

Its here>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5791792

Read down the second articlde, its suggested there.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:52 PM
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16. Example of the Clinton's haven't been fully vetted. n/t
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:59 PM
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17. Suffering from ED (excessive dishonesty)? Try Liagra
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:13 AM
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19. LOL !!! - Perfect !!!
:bounce::rofl::bounce:

:hi:

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:30 AM
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21. Obvious DUzy.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:44 AM
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24. OMG
"Liagra". Way too clever.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 02:41 AM
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22. K&R!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:34 AM
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23. Kick !!!
:kick:
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:09 AM
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25. k & r
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:42 PM
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26. K&R This story needs to stay up front till media pays proper attn to it!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:47 PM
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27. You Are 100% Correct About That !!!
:hi:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:16 PM
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28. K/R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:40 PM
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29. Thank You !!!
:yourock:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:42 PM
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30. k and r
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:45 PM
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31. Kickin' for the truth. n/t
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