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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:31 PM
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Can (or how can) Obama win Indiana tomorrow?
I am hoping against what all the pundits and polls are saying- that Indiana will go to Clinton. For the knowledgeable folk here on this matter, is there any way you can see Obama pulling out a victory? What would need to happen for Obama to pull an upset? No snark, please. I'm really asking.

I don't think Ms. Flag-Pin would call it a day if she lost Indiana, but super-Ds would start to declare and we'd be closer to getting our nominee.

Grandpa just put up a Spanish language site to lure Hispanic voters, and what the fuck are WE doing? Fighting with one another and weakening our best hope to win the WH.

So, how about it?



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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:32 PM
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1. i dont think he can or will
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:35 PM
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5. Agreed
I lived there for 3 years. I know those people. It's not going to happen. He could campaign there for 2 years and he'd never win Indiana.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:33 PM
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2. Not going to happen
I lived in Indiana for 3 years....He had a better shot in PA than he does in Indiana.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:34 PM
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3. Nope, he can't win IN.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:34 PM
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4. All He Has To Do Is Get More Votes...
It could hapen.

:shrug:
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:35 PM
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6. Wasn't there a post earlier today about Clinton's internal polls showing her behind?
I don't recall it being referenced though so it may be bogus.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:37 PM
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9. Judging by the Clinton people's actions today on the news show
They are talking up how important Indiana is and how not important NC is.

Kind of a silly argument seeing that if either of these go blue we won 48-50 states.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:35 PM
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7. If Clinton does win, the margin wont be much
Certainly not enough to overcome the drubbing she will get in NC.

That split of states should be sufficient to see more SD's get their scared yellow asses off the fence.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:37 PM
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8. It is not entirely unlikely that if he overperforms the polls..
.. a bit that he might actually tie in delegates or even sqeak out a small gain.

I currently have Clinton at +4 delegates:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5820291
and thats at an 8% win.

Still think its highly unlikely.

But what we might see is a bit of fatigue on the Clinton side as more and more see her chances of winning for what they are. And I am not sure the gas tax thing has done her many favours.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:38 PM
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11. The gas thing
People out there will surprise you...they are very conservative...the word tax cut sells in Indiana.

Look at Bayh he isn't exactly a liberal.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:38 PM
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10. Turnout is going to be huge for Obama
I think the Clinton gas tax pandering and Wright Fatigue will not help her. Obama is going to squeak by.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:42 PM
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12. Lots of Hillary supporters would have to stay home
Better than expected turnout among young people and African Americans.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:43 PM
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13. If things play out like they did in the MO primary, he can win by 1.5 pts.
But there has to be a massive turnout by the Indianapolis and greater Indianapolis area, like there was in St. Louis.
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