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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:34 PM
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Another "Elimination Day" for Clinton but also "Last Chance" for Obama
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:39 PM by featherman
to pull off a game changing upset.

Today is all about Indiana. NC is Obama's. If Clinton loses IN her chances diminish dramatically (meaning the MSM treatment of her candidacy ie the pr aspect not the delegate count). But she has survived similar "single elimination" primary days in the past (California on ST, Ohio, Pennsylvania) that would have effectively derailed her as well. I expect she will dodge the bullet again today.

Obama has a slight chance of pulling an upset in what is likely the last contest to offer that opportunity.

The rest of the primary schedule is pro forma and will play out as expected:

Obama wins: OR, MT, SD - Clinton's problems with western white voters continue
Clinton wins: WV, KY - Obama's problems with Appalachian white voters continue

Caveat: PR is kind of an unknown. Little polling but the assumption is Hispanic, Catholic, affinity with New York all equal Clinton edge. If these assumptions are wrong and Obama connects with Puerto Rican voters in some unexpected way then this could be a "game changing upset" but... come on... June 3 is a little late for any effect.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:38 PM
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1. Why does Obama have to pull off an "upset"?
If the scenario plays out as you have described he is easily the leader in pledged delegates at the end of the primaries. Why would he have to "upset" Hillary in any of the remaining contests?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:41 PM
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2. Sorry, I edited to mean the MSM treatment of Clinton as a still viable
candidate. The "perception game". I can count delegates as well as anybody. Sorry for the confusion.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:41 PM
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3. Only to ensure her removal from the race
without it she will likely forge on despite her chances still being slimer based soley on spin. If however he shuts her out today there will be no spin to move her ahead.

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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
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4. All these horse race and sports metaphors need to stop.
Here is my prediction.

Tonight, Obama will win North Carolina and Clinton will win Indiana. Then the remaining contests will continue, through June. The expected candidates will win the expected states. Then Hillary Clinton will drop out when it turns out that, still, she can't overcome Obama's delegate lead. In other words, it will take until June for Hillary Clinton to come to the decision she should have made in February after losing 11 straight.

The horse race aspect of this is 100% manufactured by the people in whose interest it is to perpetuate it.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:56 PM
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6. i thought those were bowel metaphors...
"elimination' ' upset'

:shrug:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:55 PM
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5. Obama's LAST CHANCE? He's so far ahead of Hillary
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:56 PM by rocknation
she'd need to win ALL EIGHT of the remaining contests with AT LEAST 69% of the vote just to catch up!

The End.

:headbang:
rocknation
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:00 PM
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7. Last chance for an upset win that changes MSM perception
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:06 PM
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8. The MSM's "perception" of Obama has to do with their own coprorate interests
Edited on Tue May-06-08 03:21 PM by rocknation
not keeping "the people" objectively educated/informed.

What you do think Rev. Wright was really all about? When they failed to turn Obama into a Sharpton-esque angry/scary black man, they OUTSOURCED the job!

:headbang:
rocknation
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