Edwards uses his 'non-endorsement' to beat up both Dem candidates...

[elizm]

Bitter much, John?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/its_official_john_and_elizabet.php

[BeyondGeography]

1. They think John lost just because he's a white guy

Talk about your handicaps in life.

[brentspeak]

3. According to many posters here on DU, we've "had enough white, Protestant men in the WH"

So, yes - there were some idiots who ignored Edwards at the polls because he's a white guy.

[BeyondGeography]

11. He would have been fine if Obama was Al Sharpton and Hillary was Pat Schroeder

The quality of the competition was more than symbolic. It would be nice if Elizabeth (who is always the one making these types of comments) would address that side of the equation for once.

[AndyA]

15. Exactly. We just HAVE TO MAKE HISTORY!

So, let's put forth two controversial candidates instead.

Forget the fact that we have SERIOUS problems and REALLY NEED to win. Forget that the GOP will have a white male candidate. Let's put up two candidates who are controversial and will whip the GOP voters into a frenzy!

Yeah, that's the way to win the White House... :eyes:

Just like the media overlooks the real issues and reports on fluff, Dems are overlooking how serious this election is. Not the right time to try to make history.

[David Zephyr]

28. I challenge you to back up that false claim: "we've had enough white, Protestant men in the WH"

I opposed John Edwards because, like Hillary, he voted for and supported the war in Iraq.

[brentspeak]

44. If the advanced search function was working, I'd show you many examples

And I said 'some', not 'all', people who ignored Edwards, apparently did so on the basis of identity politics.

[karynnj]

35. What was his excuse in 2004

Kerry is as white and male as he - and he only won one primary.

[karynnj]

34. Elizabeth also saw 2004 as close and even postulates that had

Dean dropped out before WI and endorsed John he would have won - though there is nothing to suggest that Kerry wouldn't still have won.

It would have been even easier to see the difference because it would have been one to one - earlier.

[jasmine621]

36. He should have stayed the hell in the race. So should Biden and Dodd.

Taking it to the convention with four instead of two would have been great!

[40ozDonkey]

2. I know somebody who worked for his campaign...

...she said back then that John wouldn't endorse anybody until he knew for sure that his concerns regarding poverty would be addressed by the remaining Democrats.

They weren't, so he won't. The end.

[swishyfeet]

5. Edwards doesn't get to set the agenda

He's had plenty of time to get over it, and isn't helping by bitching at the the two remaining candidates.

[brentspeak]

12. Pardon me, but where does Edwards say he wanted to "set the agenda"?

That bogus accusation, along with the snide "get over it" and "bitching" comments, are good examples why Democrats are sick to their stomachs with the Hillary and Obama partisans.

[swishyfeet]

27. I was responding to the post above

Which said he wouldn't endorse anyone till they addressed his concerns. I just don't like the sound of it (I could be wrong), at any rate he needn't offer ammunition for Repugs.

If Edwards were in this race today, he'd be getting trashed by Obama and Clinton camps (as he should) for saying those things. I too was an Edwards supporter but I know he hasn't been held to the same level of scrutiny as either Hillary or Barack so I think he should cut some slack.

He's a professional politician and can keep his comments positive for the party, that's all.

btw, Ima Brent too. :hi:

[brentspeak]

43. We're a small group

In my life, I've only encountered, in person, two other Brents.

[LibraLiz1973]

29. Yeah! Screw that stupid a-hole... worrying about the POOR!! What a moron

:sarcasm:

[swishyfeet]

37. You're stretching

[JuniperLea]

4. Why should he support either candidate?

They are two peas in a pod and he is very different from both. I admire him for sticking to his ethics. He said he wouldn't endorse anyone who didn't meet his criteria on many issues, including poverty. I admire him all the more for taking the high road.

[Life Long Dem]

42. Why? So he isn't being selfish and only thinking of himself.

I think he is not helping out a candidate because he doesn't want to alienate both candidates supporters.

[JuniperLea]

46. How would he benefit from that?

I'm betting he will alienate a slice of both camps by refusing his endorsement.

[Life Long Dem]

54. That too. He could have thrown his weight into this, but... yeah, it's not good.

Maybe he's thinking an endorsement would leave more of an impact on one camp.

[JuniperLea]

55. I think he honestly cannot support either candidate

His policies are far away from both of the others. That's why I voted for him;)

It has been my wish all along that he would NOT endorse either... I would think less of him if he pandered like that. He didn't lower his standards and I appreciate that.

I'll vote for the Dem... we need to unite the party! I don't care for either candidate, but I'll vote for the Dem without fail.

[cali]

51. In his six years in the Senate he was as DLC as they come

and further to the right than Hillary or Obama. Mr Hedge Fund has yet to prove his great ethics to me. Mr. IWR and support the war for three full years has no cred with anyone who really opposed the war.

[OzarkDem]

6. Leave the Edwardses alone n/t

[Thrill]

7. He's not even relevant in NC

[returnable]

8. Edwards has never found a fence he didn't want to straddle...

:hi:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. So is this the end of John Edwards?

Meh.

[dogday]

10. I love John Edwards and will not speak trash about him...

It is a shame you don't want to unite Edwards Supporters to the cause of getting a Democrat in the White House... We need to unite to win...

[spooky3]

13. "beat up"? sounds very mild to me AND he also complimented each.

[QC]

21. Yeah, but for this crowd around here, if you do not fall at the feet of their candidate and worship,

then you are a heretic and must burn in this life and the next.

[spoony]

26. Yeah really, I'm stunned at all this new venom toward him

Six months ago you couldn't swing a dead mosquito without hitting an Edwards supporter, now he's getting the "bus treatment." Crazy.

[QC]

33. He rejected The Obamessiah. He is damned. n/t

[cali]

52. I took plenty of shit 6 months ago for criticizing him and my opinion

of him has not changed. Didn't care for him in 2004, and don't care for him now.

[Divine Discontent]

45. I am an Edwards supporter who is voting for Obama in the GE

and I really am disgusted by the Edwards hate when he stood up this primary season, for the poor and Union workers. Some of those who support the same candidate I do in the GE are just low lifes who are similar to the nazis who believe their idol can do no wrong. Barack does not like that kind of false adulation, who would.

[QC]

49. I suspect that he would be mortified by the antics of some of his supporters here.

Fortunately, he has better things to do than hang around here reading the rantings of headcases.

[Divine Discontent]

50. right on! EOM

[JuniperLea]

56. I suspect all of the candidates, past and present

Would be horrified at how their supporters are behaving here.

It's time to unite the party. I don't care who gets the nomination, I'm voting for the Democrat.

[Romulox]

14. Obama could've earned Edward's endorsement if he adopted more progressive economic policies

"Change" doesn't seem to mean shaking up the dominance of multi-national corporations...

[JimGinPA]

30. That's Just Your Opinion - Edwards Might Have Wanted Something Else...

That Obama wasn't willing to give him for an endorsement that didn't bring much with it.

[high density]

16. Wow, John Edwards complaining about rhetoric!

That is rich!

[brentspeak]

20. And your remark doesn't make an iota of sense.

[last1standing]

17. Why try to stir up even more shit?

Isn't there enough here for you already?

Edwards said good things about both candidates but is not endorsing. So what?

I'm always amazed when people here get so upset when a politician doesn't act like their own personal marionette. :eyes:

[Red Zelda]

18. This sap needs to go away

Hey, Mr. one-term, you lost. Get over it. Go back to suing people.
We like your wife better, anyway.

[brentspeak]

19. Who's "we"?

You and Rush and Hannity?

[liskddksil]

22. real mature

a great representative for whatever candidate you support.

[QC]

25. Actually, for the poster in question, that post is not only mature,

but a true work of genius.

[Red Zelda]

39. Wanna step outside, Hillary?

Bring Kucinich with you.

[Red Zelda]

40. Are you ready to vote for Edwards in the fall?

Go ahead. Be 1 of 5.

[QC]

57. Finally!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=195317

[Beaverhausen]

23. "Beat up"? Give me a break

I guess issues aren't important to you.

[jazzjunkysue]

24. A-hem. Seems to me, the one who is beaten is Edwards.

He's going to do what the other Super Delegates are going to do: Back the winner. Nothing else makes sense.

[iamthebandfanman]

31. are you? n/t

[Yukari Yakumo]

32. Um... Who cares?

He ceased being relevant since February. No one but his most devoted followers really cares what he thinks anymore.

[Midwestern Democrat]

38. Edwards isn't a paid PR flack for the Hillary and Obama campaigns.

He's a Democrat with genuine reservations about both candidates and he expressed them as mildly as possible.

[Life Long Dem]

41. And John running in 4 years. I knew it.

I wouldn't leave Obama for Edwards even though I voted for Edwards, once I've been with Obama to see and feel what he's all about.

[JuniperLea]

47. Link?

I've heard nothing of the sort.

[barack the house]

48. Look Edwards is well liked on this site, that should be respected..

His supporters have gone for Obama by a large margin. He's entitled to his opinion, even if Obama folk disagree. Wiser to resepect his good willed voters who moved to our side. Their support to my mind is most welcome.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. Go away John. You had your chance. You were my first choice -

but you blew it. You could have taken a stance. Even
picked Clinton, if you wanted. But no!

[JuniperLea]

58. Why would he lower his standards?

He was far and away from the other two... always has been. Why compromise now?