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Tue May-06-08 05:37 PM
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Latest Indiana Exits Polls: |
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Edited on Tue May-06-08 05:59 PM by spokane
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Tue May-06-08 05:38 PM
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1. I wish it's true, but I have doubts. Some exits had him winning PA. |
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Tue May-06-08 05:39 PM
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2. Clinton's surrogates controlled the electoral machine in PA |
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Is the same true of Indiana?
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Tue May-06-08 05:43 PM
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6. Do they control the machine in |
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Indiana too??
I hope not...
Dang!
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Tue May-06-08 06:02 PM
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16. Mixed bag of voting systems.. |
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Tue May-06-08 05:39 PM
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3. If he comes within five in Indiana and wins NC big then the SD will really begin |
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Tue May-06-08 05:41 PM
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4. It's huffpo, probably BS |
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Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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18. So if the Huffington post said the Earth revolved around the Sun, you wouldn't believe it either? |
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Those are numbers from the AP. It's pretty amateur to judge their veracity by the final outlet.
If you wanted to know whether they're accurate or not, you'd go straight to the source, research the methodology, look for any concrete ideological influences, and then bring your findings back to this thread.
But that's more work than just saying; "It's a lie because I don't like where it's printed.", isn't it?
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Tue May-06-08 05:41 PM
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5. This can't be true. Fox News has Hillary winning white men in IND 58%, and you know she won women by |
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Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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7. If FOX says it's true, then it must be true (n/t) |
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Tue May-06-08 05:51 PM
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14. Ugh, why are you watching faux newz?! |
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Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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8. Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please |
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And I like this too:
North Carolina
Obama: 60%
Clinton: 38%
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Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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9. Not getting my hopes up for Obama in IN. He'll take NC easy...and Hillary will declare that |
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doesn't count. Only IN counts. Only the states SHE wins count.
She'll declare that her IN win means she has the nomination sealed up.
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Tue May-06-08 05:45 PM
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Tue May-06-08 05:49 PM
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Tue May-06-08 05:49 PM
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12. The link says 50.5% and 49.5%. |
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Still, I'm not getting my hopes up. We've seen enough exit polls fail badly to predict the outcome.
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Tue May-06-08 05:50 PM
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Sadly, Obama has underperformed his exit polls pretty regularly.
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Tue May-06-08 06:07 PM
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19. Where and under what circumstances? |
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I seem to recall that happened to many Democrats in recent years... and never to Republicans.
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Tue May-06-08 06:00 PM
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Tue May-06-08 06:04 PM
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17. That's a Clinton win, by the way. Obama consistantly performs below the exits. Probably 53-47 |
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Add 3 to 4 points to Clinton over any exit polling (if history is any guide).
On to Oregon! YEEEEAAAARRRRRGGGHH!
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Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM
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21. Uhh... yeah, but she needs a BIG victory. |
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Even then she can't catch up with anything but a miracle.
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Tue May-06-08 06:16 PM
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23. True. Too bad the Messiah is on our side |
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Tue May-06-08 06:29 PM
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26. As the note in one place says, The exit polls "are notoriously unreliable." |
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Of course, we can't speak a word about the electronic voting machines. The voting machines, as we know, are always reliable, but not the exit polls.
Golly, Gee, I wonder why this is?
Must be something essentially wrong with exit polls.
Just can't trust them.
But the voting machines which have been found by every study ever conducted on them to be totally hackable, insecure, patchable, trivially easy to fraudulently program, run by extreme partisans and in many cases ex-felons, now here's something we can really trust.
There's absolutely no way to know what the real result of either of these elections is when it's over, but you can be sure of one thing: the exit polls are closer to the real result than the machines, and more trustworthy, that is, before they're re-calibrated to match the machine results. So the early results using the raw data, if that ever becomes available, will more than likely give a good idea of how the vote actually went.
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Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM
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20. CNN Exit polls show Clinton with the win (about 7%) |
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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IN55% of voters women 45% men. Women voted for Clinton: 53% Men voted for Clinton: 51%
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Tue May-06-08 06:15 PM
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22. Both of these are within moe |
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Obama always underperforms the exit polls though. Strange phenomenon that started happening aroun 2000 wherever the pukes want a candidate to win, that candidate outperforms exit polls by just enough to win :eyes:
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Tue May-06-08 06:24 PM
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24. What is the MOE on CNNs? Its not listed? NT |
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Tue May-06-08 06:25 PM
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25. Those numbers suggest 4%, not 7%. /nt |
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Tue May-06-08 06:30 PM
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27. Where did the 7% come from? |
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55% x 53% + 51% x 45% is 52.1% (to 47.9%) = 4.2% margin
Are you addding an adjustment for exit poll bias? Are they?
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Tue May-06-08 06:31 PM
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28. Hmm. If this holds close, then the big story of the night is that Obama did well with women. |
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In Pennsylvania, Clinton won women by 18%.
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Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
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30. Remember, where you heard it first, |
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Huffpo are calling Indiana for Obama and thats whats going to happen.
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Tue May-06-08 09:32 PM
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31. They're wrong too . . . it's already down to 4 percent. nt |
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Tue May-06-08 09:33 PM
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32. Depending on how Lake County goes, HuffPo may've got it! |
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Tue May-06-08 09:36 PM
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33. With 60-65% in Lake County, that would be spot on. |
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Hopefully the exits were correct.
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Tue May-06-08 10:57 PM
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34. Looks like Huffpost prediction is going to hold n/t |
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