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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:10 PM
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Facts About Al Sharpton:
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 12:29 PM by mdguss
I thought it’d be good to show Al Sharpton’s record. The fact is that he didn’t pay state income tax, that he incited a riot with anti-semitic language, and that he knowingly lied in the Twana Brawley case (where a prosecutor and police officers were falsely accused of kidnapping and rape). Al Sharpton doesn’t, and never will, speak for the party I am a member of and the party I vote for:

(Warning: From National Review…which maybe considered conservative by some): http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200312030840.asp

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“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house."

Those were the immortal words of the Rev. Al Sharpton during the Crown Heights crisis in New York City in 1991. A car driven by a Hasidic Jew had run over a black child in the Brooklyn neighborhood, prompting black-Jewish tensions that eventually spilled over into antisemitic riots. Sharpton's contribution to civic peace was statements like the above, together with such classic anti-Jewish smears as: "Talk about how Oppenheimer in South Africa sends diamonds straight to Tel Aviv and deals with the diamond merchants right here in Crown Heights."

Failure to support 2001 Democratic Nominee for Mayor of New York:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0146/goldstein.php

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Making peace with the Jews wasn't high on Al Sharpton's agenda last week. On election eve, he sat with top Democrats at a large round table in the lobby of the Four Seasons Hotel, where he sometimes holds court these days. The purpose of this Hail Mary huddle was to get Sharpton to endorse Mark Green. But, for whatever reason, the main deal maker—Bill Clinton—failed to show. So Sharpton left for the studios of NY1, where he repeated a nuanced invitation to his supporters to sit out the race. It was another cunning maneuver by New York's trickster prince.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/sharptonprofile.htm

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He became a focal point in the 1991 Crown Heights riots, which turned the Brooklyn neighborhood into a national symbol of black-Jewish strife. He advised five black and Hispanic youths charged in the infamous Central Park jogger case, and served as an adviser to Tawana Brawley, a New York state teen whose claims of kidnapping and abuse were found to be a hoax by state investigators


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Sharpton accused Dutchess County prosecutor Steven Pagones of kidnapping, abusing and raping the then-15-year-old black girl an accusation unsupported by the evidence.
A grand jury concluded that there was no evidence to sustain Brawley's story. Pagones later won a $65,000 defamation judgment against Sharpton, but Sharpton has remained unapologetic.

The Brawley case also highlighted Sharpton's personal finances a topic that has drawn the interest of adversaries, prosecutors and regulators. His income had to be garnished to cover part of the defamation debt and supporters helped pay the rest.

Other financial questions have followed Sharpton. A jury acquitted him in 1990 of charges he stole from a civil rights organization he started as a teenager. In 1993, he pleaded guilty to not filing a state income tax return in 1986.





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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:12 PM
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1. Consequently, you are supporting busholini?
What is your point?
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:13 PM
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2. Could you put that much effort into attacking Bush?
That might be more helpfull.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:13 PM
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3. Thanks for bringing up the repuke talking points
personally, i think the man is a god damned patriot!!

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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:14 PM
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4. George W. Bush
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:15 PM
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5. Sharpton Has Some Baggage But He Is Moving Forward...
The only difference between a sinner and a saint is one man's saved and the other man ain't....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:15 PM
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:16 PM
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7. Another fact about Al Sharpton
His speech on wednesday was really good and served to help the cause of progressives everywhere. I may not be happy about the things he has done in the past or as a face of the Democratic Party, but I support his right to run, I support the DNC's decision to allow all of the candidates to speak at the convention in a show of party unity and I appreciated his message for that one evening. So while you can site there and get all pissed off that people liked his speech, I'll sit back and ruminate on the underlying message he was trying to send out and I will determine if, for that one night, Al Sharpton may have redeemed some of the rotten things he has done.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:17 PM
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8. National Review may be considered conservative by SOME?!?
Wow, there really is no point to bring up any of this.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:27 PM
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10. The point is:
I am deeply offended by his anti-semitic language. To me, that's highly offensive. I'm offended by his belittling (through lies) of violence against women. I'm offended by the strife he promotes between religious and racial minorities.

I personally am offended that my party--the party of tolerance--would not only allow the guy to speak at its convention, but embarace him (as seen in the delegates' response and the posts here). I have a right to say what exactly offends me about his record, and why I don't like him. I generally don't like people who promote strife, injustice and violence through lies (and that's part of the reason I don't like Bush).

I support John Kerry, and I have since October of 2003 when Bob Graham dropped out of the race. I've volunteered for his campaign, and I will continue to volunteer for his campaign. I don't like Bush, but I don't like Sharpton either.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:31 PM
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13. You have evidence that Rev. Sharpton knew
the rape was a lie? If you do show it, if not drop it.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:42 PM
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16. Read the links:
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 12:43 PM by mdguss
65,000 dollar judgment for slander where a former bodyguard testified under oath that Sharpton knew the things was a lie and a hoax.

It's unbelievable that people in our party would embrace such a man as Sharpton. I'm quite disappointed.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:57 PM
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18. I read the links & I don't see any proof that he knew.
Like I said, put up or shut up.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 04:58 PM
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24. Even Dov Hikind, a right-wing conservative Jewish politician
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 04:58 PM by sangh0
and an opponent of Sharpton's says that Sharpton is not an anti-semite.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:35 PM
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14. Yea....right.......
:puke:
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:01 PM
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19. Um...
The things he said and did happened around 11 years ago.

Do you always hold onto grudges that long?

What if he's changed?

Have you actually heard him say ANYTHING like that since the early '90's? And this is 2004???

Look. I would never VOTE for Al Sharpton, because I wasn't pleased with what happened back then either. But I'm not going to let it keep me from appreciating the POSITIVE things he's done in the past year.

Seems like you're throwing out the good with the bad. Can't see why, but it's your life.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:23 PM
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9. Yeah, yeah, yeah.....did Rev. Sharpton lie to Congress and the nation
and send 900+ Americans to die in Iraq? Didn't think so.
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:28 PM
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12. I'm a Jew who loves Sharpton!
I like Reverend Al. He is brilliant, funny, and speaks from the heart. He leads.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:27 PM
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11. Another fact about Al Sharpton. The media loved him when he was
trashing Dean about a flag comment.

And, partly because of that, he's become a very powerful voice in this election.

He also gives a helluva speech.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:41 PM
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15. These are facts and F911 is propaganda.
Typical approach to the "news".
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:44 PM
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17. Please edit subject line to read: "Facts(tm)"
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:48 PM
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20. Sure, sure. And ponies fly and rabbits have red ears.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:53 PM
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21. Sharpton didn't lie about Brawley, as I recall. He was lied TO by her.
Also, I do not rely on the Repub publication National Review for a source of valid information. It is not supposed to be cited in this forum as a source. It's one of the rules, I believe. That you are citing it is suspicious.

Your main problem with Sharpton seems to be that you think he dislikes Jews. I've heard him speak a lot of times but have never personally heard him utter one word I would consider anti-semitic. So I'm not inclined to believe that. If that is true, he would not have been allowed to speak at the convention, is what I think. So maybe this is what some people think, but others disagree? I'll read up on this and see for myself. What you describe is a Hitleresque person that the DNC would never allow to speak at its convention, so......

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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:10 PM
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22. Not True
The articles clearly state that Sharpton knew Brawley was lying and kept on making false charges. That's why there was a 65,000 dollar judgment against SHARPTON for slander.

He made those slurs, and yet the party let him speak anyway. Really sad. It's not just in the National Review, it's in other credible papers. Search "Al Sharpton Riot" on Google, and you'll find tons of articles about that very incident. He stoked anti-semitic passions and incited a riot.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:15 PM
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23. better find another website to spam with republican talking points
Or should we mention the DLC taking money from the Olin and Coors foundations via the Bradleys?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:00 PM
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25. Another Sharpton fact
As a teenager, he worked in Operation Breadbasket, helping young black children to stay in school and not do drugs and not join gangs. My mom worked in the school he was assigned to and remembers him as a committed social work who helped the young.
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