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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:28 PM
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Well John Kerry face George Bush in the election?
I have been wondering for quite some time whether George Bush will be the Republican nominee this year, and recent leaks that he is on powerful psychotropic drugs just to function have only reinforced this doubt.

John Kerry and John Edwards have been preparing to defeat Bush and Cheney, but what if Bush drops out and the Republican Convention, in a "September Surprise" nominates Senator John McCain?

What will happen to our chances if we have to face a totally defferent opponent?

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
http://www.whiterosesociety.org
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:30 PM
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1. don't think McCain would be their choice
Don't think he'd be a willing tool of the powerful interestes who control Bush.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:31 PM
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2. Sorry, Ben...
I just don't see the flexibility in the repukes that would allow them to goto "The Thermonuclear-Political Option".

They will just smack a few more 5 lb. Thorazine Suppositories up Chimpy's ass with a hand sledge and soldier onward.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:31 PM
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3. Well...
If they nominate McCain we will loose. But they won't, McCain can not be controlled. That is why he didn't win in 2000.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:34 PM
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4. But the media does have a collective orgasm whenever his name is
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 07:35 PM by tritsofme
mentioned.

That's why I think he will be nominee in 2008.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:42 PM
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7. I think he might be a bit old to run in 2008.
I still don't think republican leadership want him. They will fight hard to make sure he doesn't run.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:49 PM
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10. McCain won't run, even if chimpy keels over tomorrow
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:59 PM
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11. Why not?
It would be his best chance of ever being President, and he knows it.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:44 PM
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13. McCain is not a paid-for henchman of the Saudi Royals and the BFEE.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 10:46 PM by Enraged_Ape
He may be a right-wing tool, but he's not a made member of the Bush Crime Family. He'd do what he wanted to do, not what George H.W. and Bandar Bush told him to do.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:05 AM
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14. I'm sure that he is ambitious
and we know he wants to be president, and I'm sure that he
believes that he would be better than *.

But despite his public support for *, he is not part of the
BFEE, nor is he a tool for the Scaife/VRWC crowd... and those
are the guys that destroyed his chance in 2000, and they still
run things in the rethuglican party. He won't allow them to
use him, and therefore they wouldn't try it.

Besides, I think McCain is still a little above party politics
and I just don't think he would run against Kerry. Anyone else,
yes, but they are good friends and it's my belief that they
would not choose to run against each other.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:34 PM
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5. This would definitely hurt our chances, because
many former Bush voters would be so relieved to be able to vote for a Repub who was NOT Bush, that they'd be getting off their couches to do so. It hasn't occurred to them that Bush is a figurehead and things would go on just the same with someone else on the ticket.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:41 PM
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6. That is exactly my fear
We lose all of the Bush voters we've won over, and have less than two months to recover from that blow.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:43 PM
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8. They'll manage GW Bush's mental problems
as skillfully as Ronald Reagans 2nd term dementia was managed.

People who worked with Reagan during his 2nd term knew there was something seriously wrong, yet most citizens dont know , even now , how absent Reagan really was.

They've had practise. They can do it again.


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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:45 PM
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9. You are right. There is an excellent chance that Bush
won't be nominated.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:37 PM
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12. no chance whatsoever
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 10:38 PM by progdonkey
For Bush to step down for whatever reason would pretty much kill the whole "resolute leader on top of everything" and "mission accomplished" party line. It would open a feeding frenzy in the party: many party members simply detest Cheney--among them McCain (not to mention a vast majority of Americans)--, so they would do everything they can to both prevent a Cheney presidency and/or even his nomination as the GOP candidate (they'll stay loyal to the party until a point, and I believe that point is when Bush states he won't be seeking re-election).

Bush will be the nominee, and he'll most likely still have Cheney as Veep (though, that's actually able to change). Kerry will destroy Bush in the debates--likewise with Edwards and Cheney--and the bushies will just stage another coup and continue their consolidation of dictatorial control....:mad:
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