hard-working Americans, white Americans

[Warren Stupidity]

I realize this is now beating a dead horse. I just want our holdout Clinton supporters to be fully aware of just where the Clinton campaign has gone.


"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm

"working, hard working Americans, white Americans"

It is hard to avoid the base racists implications of that phrase. The phrase fails to border on racism, it is overt over the top racist pandering. That statement by Clinton is simply indefensible.

This hard working white american is horrified by the racism that has now become overt from Mrs. Clinton. Not only is she under my bus, she got there after I backed up over her having already run her over from the front.

Bill and Hillary: please go away. You are rich white college educated elites, wealthy beyond most of our imaginations, go have a nice long permanent vacation. Thanks for all the fish.

[Doityourself]

1. I'm a hard working black American...how does Hill feel about me?

[TwilightGardener]

6. You must be an anomaly. Everyone knows that the "WORKING class" is white.

[Doityourself]

11. Ha Ha...damn..no one told me..wtf?

[EFerrari]

59. I know, me either! Somewhere, someone has my trust fund!

:)

[cliffordu]

46. Under the bus....Don't worry, though, there's plenty of us under here...

So you'll never get lonely.

[ShortnFiery]

2. Yes, The Clintons: America's Great WHITE Hope?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRwZQLdhEw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBlBIAt4YZA&feature=related


Bill Clinton Slams Obama; Obama Corrects Bill Clinton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQekZ1ahvlo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOe01_ww29U&NR=1

[gateley]

3. Here's the takeaway message: White people support Clinton. nt

[Saturday]

4. When 92% of Blacks vote for Obama (and his wife told us they would)

I think trying to have faux outrage over a Clinton comment is soooo YOU.

ETA - Not to mention Obama himself talking about his "typical white grandmother".
Pleeeeeze, spare me.

[rurallib]

7. You approve what Hillary said?

:wtf:

[Warren Stupidity]

8. so you agree with Clinton that either blacks don't work, or are not hard working?

[NJSecularist]

17. That is your own selective intepretation of her statements.

She never said such a thing.

[Warren Stupidity]

20. Clear implication of a carefully constructed phrase

uttered by a very smart woman who knows exactly what she is doing. Or perhaps she is an idiot who just lets slip some very racist crap without thinking about it?

[NJSecularist]

23. It's a clear implication of your own selectivity and word parsing.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Warren Stupidity]

24. "working, hard-working Americans, white Americans"

I ain't parsing shit. There it is staring right at you. Open your eyes.

[NJSecularist]

30. Yes, there are hard-working white Americans.

Never in her statement does she say that whites are the only Americans who are hard working.

[Saturday]

26. That's totally idiotic.

Getting all that from her statement is making a mountain out of a molehill. Neither Clinton has ever been a racist and their record with the Black community over the years proved that. Get a clue.

[Warren Stupidity]

28. working, hard-working Americans, white Americans

[marions ghost]

49. Not a racist in the classic definition perhaps

but she is obviously USING racism--ie. capitalizing on the existence of racism-- to try to win an election. Call it what you want--it is inexcusable for any American, and ESPECIALLY offensive to Democrats, both Obama and Hillary supporters alike. I assume Hillary supporters do not like the use of racism as a device for political gain. She has insulted her own supporters who have any integrity. If I were a Hillary supporter now--I have been one in a lukewarm sort of way in the past--but if I were a Hillary supporter today I'd be knocking back a few anti-depressants of choice....

This insults us all.

[Apollo11]

36. After your "Warren Stupidity" how about a War On Spin?

Hillary did say that she has been getting more support from white voters.

She did not say that black people don't work.


Obama mis-speaks all the time. On Tuesday night he said that US energy policy is "funding both sides of the war on terror" - as if energy policy was actually financing the deployment of US military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The man I met in Pennsylvania who lost his job but can't even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one - he can't afford four more years of an energy policy written by the oil companies and for the oil companies; a policy that's not only keeping gas at record prices, but funding both sides of the war on terror and destroying our planet in the process."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obamas_north_carolina_victory.html

[Warren Stupidity]

56. shiftless, lazy Americans, black Americans

working, hard-working Americans, white Americans

shiftless, lazy Americans, black Americans

working, hard-working Americans, white Americans

shiftless, lazy Americans, black Americans

working, hard-working Americans, white Americans


Indeed I keep spinning her phrase and its opposite around in my head and I keep coming up with: Hillary Clinton just went George Wallace '68 on us.

I just took my bus out of reverse, slammed it into first, and ran over her again for good measure. Thunkitta-thunkitta-thunk. The Clintons and their carefully planned triangulating bullshit are dead to me.

[IsItJustMe]

16. I feel sorry for you. I hope you will see the light soon, very soon.

[kevinbgoode]

41. Except that same 92 percent has voted for a WHITE male

candidate before for President, haven't they?

[roseBudd]

47. Good point African A,mericans have been voting for every white face with a D after it for decades...

unlike HRC's so-called base who don't vote black, regardless of a D

[rurallib]

5. Way over the top. She should be excoriated for this statement

But it is the latest in a series of statements in which she, Bill or one of the top staffers has insulted damn near every group or state that has for some reason chosen to vote for an opponent.

[BayouBengal07]

9. Two things:

1. How many "latte liberals" are there in Iowa?

2. Isn't it condescending for the Clinton campaign to say "vote for me, because working class whites are far too racist to overcome their fear of the black guy"? Isn't that a slap in the face?

[Marrah_G]

10. Stomp stomp stomp

[Warren Stupidity]

14. Do you agree with Clinton's statement to USA today?

[Marrah_G]

19. I think it was a stupid mistake

I think she wasn't thinking and repeated the same thing the pundits and newscasters and so called experts have been saying over and over again for weeks.

The race is over. You can stop beating her up now.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. I agree it is beating a dead horse.

But I am astounded at the vileness of it and I do not for one minute think it was a misstake.

[Marrah_G]

29. I'll just agree to disagree with you on that.

[DemVet]

12. I'm sorry...

...but stating a mere fact, even when they mention race, is not being a racist.

Maybe this is something the Obama supporters might want to concentrate on if they want Obama to win in the fall.

[wvbygod]

13. when did citing an Associated Press article become racist?

Does this mean that your citing of a USA Today article citing Hillary citing
an Associated Press article is racist?

war and stupidity: You Hillary supporters are too stupid to know what is racist so I am telling you what is racist.

[Warren Stupidity]

18. Those were her words, her phrasing, chosen with deliberation.

"Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again".

Perhaps you meant that she misspoke?

[DemVet]

25. You call that statement "racist?"

I call it fact.

Mentioning racial demographics in a political campaign is NOT being racist.

[Warren Stupidity]

27. You are simply blind.

[DemVet]

60. No, just aware.

I suppose Barack doesn't want all those "white, working class" voters to vote for him, does he?

[Orangepeel]

34. um.... equating "hard-working Americans" with "white Americans" is a racist thing to say

Whether that's what she meant to do or not is arguable. The only thing that is a fact is that is was a racist thing to say, intended or not.

[DemVet]

61. Nope.

It's no more racist than talking of the black vote.

[Orangepeel]

63. Yep, infinity.

I'm rubber and you're glue...

I repeat, it was the equating of "hard-working" with "white" that was the problem, not the discussing on the AP article's focus on the white vote.

[polmaven]

42. I see you USE commas,

but do you know what they are for?

She was citing DIFFERENT groups of people!
1)hard-working Americans
2)white Americans

Grow up and get off your "The Clintons and all of their supporters are racists" bandwagon. It is fabricated and offensive, and it does not serve your candidate's campaign well.

I really hope you do not use that type of approach when you are talking face to face with undecided voters. "You racist" will not convince them.

[yodermon]

43. Yay! It's "Here's What Hillary *Really* Meant" day!

after bittergate, i'm breaking out the :popcorn:

[polmaven]

52. You need to grow up too

:hide:

[DemVet]

62. Those with comprehension skills...

...didn't need an interpretation of what she said. She's no racist, but it's evident alot of Obama supporters are.

[mod mom]

15. We need to unite this country in order to focus on the huge problems that face us.

Sen Clinton has shown that she preferred the divisive campaigning of the recent past. Enough of the ugly rhetoric-let's focus on the future. We need to build an election-stealing proof margin that will allow our Democratic platform to move forward. Time to get out and register new people into the party!

[Lisa0825]

21. I am still stunned at such a blantantly racist statement.

Stunned.

And stunned that so many people here can excuse it.

[OzarkDem]

31. Parsing and distorting speeches is so....pathetic and desperate

Discuss issues for a change.

[Warren Stupidity]

32. working, hard-working Americans, white Americans

the issue is racism

[OzarkDem]

33. no, its parsing and taking comments out of context

and its only about the 1,056th time Obama supporters have used this trick during this campaign.

:boring:

[Warren Stupidity]

35. The context was 'I have the white vote'.

Racism.

[OzarkDem]

37. Sorry, but you're wrong and have no proof of that

Typical of Obama folks - no credibility and sexist to boot.

[SeaLyons]

38. Obama, please go away, get some experience...

You are a RICH black elite, who after spending 5 minutes in the senate in Washington, decided to run for the highest office in the land. Get over yourself, buddy. Go get some experience. This country needs Hillary.

BTW...this white hard working woman is horrified at how the race card and racism coming from the Obama camp has been so obvious, and tip toed around.

[EFerrari]

57. Reality check: the media is excoriating Clinton for her cynical remarks

and the clip is being played over and over and over. They're comparing her unfavorably to RICHARD NIXON who ran on segregation in 1960. As far as I know, the Obama campaign doesn't own the corporate media.

Nice try at projecting her cr@p, though. And this country needs Obliterate Them Hil like we need another four years of Bush.

[bagimin]

64. We need Hillary just as much

as we need more racism.

[NoFederales]

39. Worst sort of race baiting, pandering--even Peggy Noonan gets it:

check out the WSJ article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121027865275678423.html?mod=opinion_columns_featured_lsc

Time for Obama, and all Democrats, to go after McCain w/o worrying about hurtful distractions from the Clintons.

NoFederales

On Edit: Recommended

[The Backlash Cometh]

40. The only hard work they do is lift the corners of their mouths to smile

to form relationships with people they really can't stand, but know will help them through cronyism.

Geez, I got to see how this local community rewards their own, and whereever they can get away with it, decisions were based on cronyism. No wonder things are beginning to fall apart, when major decisions are based on who fits into your comfort zone, rather than who really can get the job done.

[highplainsdem]

44. Read this topic if you want to know what she really said

and how it was misunderstood.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5896190

"Hard working" is what politicians including Al Gore often say instead of "working class," and Hillary uses it that way consistently, and she'd added the reference to white Americans as she clarified what the AP story said.

It was disasstrously jumbled and misunderstood, but it was NOT racist.

It was even more misunderstood and overhyped than Obama's "bitter" comment.

[TexasObserver]

45. What next from the Queen of Mean? Will she call us "race traitors" for backing Obama?!

She looks like Joe Dirt and talks like David Duke.

[BlooInBloo]

48. Yup.

[wvbygod]

50. what insult is next against the "typical white person"?

What will the "typical white person" be called when they write in Hillary's
name on their ballot because they refuse the racist title.

[TexasObserver]

51. Hillary: spokeswoman for the typical white person, because she's so typical

A lifetime of privilege and wealth make her a typical white Republican, not a typical white person.

Doubt there will be many writing her name in come November, since a third of her primary voters never intended to vote Democratic in the fall.

[whistler162]

53. I can think of one....

non-college educated working class white guy who would probably have voted for Senator Obama over Senator Clinton.

A guy from Independence MO by the name of Harry S. Truman.

[knixphan]

54. thanks for the fish... and NAFTA.

And the telecom '96...

and...

[jonestonesusa]

55. OK, let's play the what if game...

News item: Obama speaks before a group of African Americans and says:

"Sen. Clinton's support among working, hard-working Americans, African-Americans, is weakening again. African Americans in both states who had not completed college are supporting me."

Would you then accuse Obama of playing the race card? Or would you write it off as neutral and fair-minded?

Answer honestly.

[EFerrari]

58. Reality: Obama has not sunk to that level. Nor will he.

The Clintons, on the other hand, have no problem flailing around in whatever sewer is most convenient for them at the time.

And, fyi, there is no "race card". This is not a card game. This is the lives and welfare of Americans we're talking about, in case you've managed to forget that.

[jonestonesusa]

65. Hi...I would normally use "the race card" in quotation marks

since it is a common phrase, and also a meaningless cliche that abets white privilege in its most familiar uses.

Being African American myself, I'm not likely to forget the human impact of how we engage in conversation and public policy about race.