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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:00 AM
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To excuse these blatantly racist tactics is to enable racism and division.
If Republicans had so openly spoken about the "white vote," many of the people now trying to excuse away Clinton's words would themselves be screaming from the highest rooftop.

I thought we had expunged such behavior from our party decades ago. I haven't heard anything like that uttered by a Democrat since George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door.

It doesn't matter whether she's a racist at heart. Hell, Wallace only started using his most divisive language when a more racist opponent beat him, and he swore he'd "never be out-segged again." Whatever she may truly believe, she's trying to exploit racial resentment and anxiety.

And don't claim she chose her words poorly. The Clintons have never uttered a word that wasn't carefully crafted. She knew EXACTLY what she was saying, and EXACTLY what she was doing. Bill and Hillary

Has there been any retraction? Any clarification? Any claim of "misspeaking"? No.

Those who decried Obama's so-called "cult of personality" but who now attempt to excuse Clinton's words should take a long hard look at themselves.

This is sick and ugly, and any true liberal and progressive would never stand for it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:01 AM
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1. K&R.... HRC supporters are twisting themselves in knots trying to find logic to defend this....
...

cognitive dissonance


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:46 PM
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46. agreed, op. take out the racist part and put in their most cherished
shibboleth- SEXISM!- and they would unhinge their jaws attacking it. Sad, really.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:03 AM
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2. She fosters racial resentment with this b.s.

No better than George Wallace.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:05 AM
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3. well, I think many of us HAVE called them on it
FWIW.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:06 AM
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4. Yes, many have, and more should.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:07 AM
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5. The only thing sick and ugly is all the faux outrage on this board...
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:11 AM
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7. Faux outrage? Mine is real, and as a white woman I am

outraged that another white woman is out there putting herself forward as some kind of great white hope for all those "hard-working white" people. That is such bullshit, and no, I do not have faux outrage, it is very real.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:14 AM
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27. how absolutely ridiculous....
knock yourself out being outraged!!
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:14 PM
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43. Wow, you're an even bigger asshole than I am.
And that takes some doing.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM
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9. Did someone force her to reference the article and use those words?
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:15 AM
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28. "white working people"
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:16 AM by cricket08
are not bad words - not last I checked.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:48 PM
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47. 2012
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:49 PM by Jake3463
I'm going to give and organize as much as I can for the brave sould who decides to be her primary challenger and I'm talking about the Senate Seat.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:08 AM
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6. She was quoting a newspaper article she had been directly asked about. Someone
else already tackled this in another thread.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM
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11. Listen to the audio. She brings up the article herself. No one made her.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:13 AM
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8. I Don't Really Care Anymore
If she's going to be attacked for racism regardless of what she says or does, why not go for it?
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:30 AM
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16. I have to second that sentiment.
I suppose I could google and analyze the number of times I've seen the race card played at the drop of a hat around here, but I won't bother.

There are definitely more than a few people who, when they become frustrated with having to explain their position, just switch gears into casting accusations of racism, sometimes that's how they start the conversation.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:32 AM
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19. Great. Nice to know that you don't care about racism.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:57 AM
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21. Wow.
Just wow.

True colors and all that . . .
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 AM
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24. Oh You're Funny
Edited on Fri May-09-08 10:28 AM by Crisco
You've done more to stir up racist bullshit than pretty much any other poster I can think of. Ever since the opening bell, my friend. As ye sow ...

on edit: are there any other topics on DU and the campaign that you have participated in other than race, or is that your sole issue?
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:47 AM
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25. As I said, you're like a moth to a flame
Do you have nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread bellowing your inane, tin-ear rantings?

You might want to get some help with this obsession you have with the opinions of a total stranger.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:52 AM
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26. I Was Here First
:hi:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM
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10. I fully agree. "The Southern Strategy" SADLY has not been played solely by the GOP.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:15 AM
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12. ..and those word effect blacks negatively, it's not just wprds from a politician but peoples beliefs
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:17 AM
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13. Absolutely true.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:19 AM
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14. Shame on you Hillary Clinton!
Time to face the facts and quit the race talk.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:21 AM
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15. Nominated.
The democratic party should be where black, brown, red, yellow and white people unite to advocate for our shared values.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:30 AM
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17. Oh for fuck's sake did you miss the other 15000 posts on this?
THE HORSE IS DEAD, STOP BEATING IT.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:52 AM
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20. Sorry, I must have missed your dictum about what I could discuss.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:59 AM
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22. Keep beating that dead horse!
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:48 AM
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37. Dead horse? You mean like Hillary KKKlinton's joke of a campaign?
As long as she's braying like a racist jackass, we will call her on it.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:39 AM
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34. No, but here is what I HAVE missed: ANY of her supporters here criticizing those comments.
And that is absolutely appalling to me.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:31 AM
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18. It's awful.
And what makes me so sad is thsat by her words she is legitimizing bigotry
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:03 AM
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23. She sounded so proud of herself didn't she?
I'm just glad that the race baiter has lost and she has now become the official the rodeo clown of Washington.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:16 AM
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29. Clinton supporters simply don't care.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:20 AM
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marcus3xw Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:28 AM
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31. Co-Sign....The media has played the race card again
for hillary to be labeled a racist over citing stats that are repeated after every primary and caucas is STUPID
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:31 AM
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32. Hillary is supposed to be a leader and a politician.....not a dumbass pundit!
That is the difference.

Her career is over because she will never get people other than Low information non graduate Whites to support her at this point, and even not all of them will.

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marcus3xw Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:58 AM
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39. There is nothing RACIST about citing stats
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:59 AM by marcus3xw
i'm black and not a hillary supporter but this race card stuff is silly
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:33 AM
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33. Just like it was "strategic" for Wallace to not "get out-segged again."
You're a shameless shill.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:41 AM
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35. Want to see a vile racist?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:43 AM by ProSense
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:46 AM
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36. This is ridiculous, by the time the right really uses racism, your outrage will be all used up.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:49 AM
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38. You're thinking like a Freeper who believes that anyone who argues...
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:53 AM by The Night Owl
...against the US occupation of Iraq by citing upward trends in violence wants mayhem and death there.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:59 AM
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40. There's no real point in this. That's just not something Clinton supporters care about.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:03 PM
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41. Her surragates don't want to see a black man become president... she's been dismissive and
disrespectful of Obama's candidacy from the start. She lost! She should just face it. She's done.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:11 PM
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42. its becoming difficult to excuse them
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:18 PM
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44. I do not believe HRC is racist, I know what racism is, she was just repeating polling question
Remember it is McCain we need to fight and let us continue to be sensible about who these candidates are and what they stand for, the Clintons are not racists and do not believe Obama is either. Let us remember our common goal of defeating McCain.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:08 PM
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45. see what you want to see, and try this in the GE. guess what? O loses. nt
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