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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:09 AM
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EXAMPLES of Hillary's shifting strategies and positions
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:34 AM by jenmito
Just wanted to point out some changes:

From "classy":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaIa34Qi32c

to "tough guy":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CRgFO2mnM

From not caring about any states after Super Tuesday (Feb. 5th):

SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON: A much less compressed environment. So from my perspective, you get up every day and you get out there and you make your case and you reach as many people as possible. That's what I intend to do, so I'm in it for the long run. It's not a very long run. It'll be over by February 5th.”

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/010308Burns.shtml

and from knowing MI won't count:

NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot?"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything."

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

to wanting EVERY state (except caucuses, of course) to count:

"But millions of people in Florida and Michigan who went to the polls aren't being heard. The delegates they elected won't be seated at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August -- and that's just not fair to those voters."

http://cerebralpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/clinton-every-vote-should-count.html

From accusing everyone of ganging up on her:

"The Politics of Pile On"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zk16oxb4Ck4

to accusing another of whining:

"Today, Clinton said that if Obama thinks the debate was tough, it pales in comparison to the pressures a president faces.

She told voters in suburban Philadelphia she's "with Harry Truman on this." She said, "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen."

http://cbs3.com/topstories/hillary.clinton.barack.2.703258.html

From calling Obama "naive" for his position on striking al Qaeda within Pakistan:

"In one of the earliest debates, Hillary Clinton slammed Obama about being 'naive' when he stated that Pakistan was where we really needed to focus our anti-terrorism efforts."

http://www.barackoblogger.com/2007/11/obama-right-about-pakistan.html

to having the SAME position:

"Clinton said in a radio interview later in the day that she also would not hesitate to attack Al Qaeda targets on Pakistani territory."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama2aug02,0,5330469.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed

And we all know about Hillary's stated willingness to "obliterate" Iran after saying earlier that a president should NOT telegraph what they would do re: foreign policy.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:12 AM
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1. K&R, thanks for the links. n/t
PB
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:13 AM
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2. YW. I fixed the first two.
:hi:
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dascientist Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:18 AM
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3. K&R
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:19 AM
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4. Thanks, dascientist!
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:36 AM
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5. kick
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:45 AM
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6. I don't want to use another thread, so I want to say new Rasmussen poll: Obama 50%-Hillary 42%
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:31 PM
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7. kick for Hillary supporters to realize who they're rooting for
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:45 PM
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8. Wow.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:46 PM by redqueen
And I think you could have included more...

Remember Jon Stewart's bit on the process?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:51 PM
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9. YES! Let me see if I can find it. I'll post it if I can.
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:55 PM
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10. I found it! Video of Jon Stewart summing up Hillary's changing justifications:
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:58 PM by jenmito
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:05 PM
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11. NAFTA, too...
she's on video praising it... and then on the campaign before OH, she lies about her past support.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:23 PM
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12. Yup. Too bad I can't edit my OP to add that.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:51 PM
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13. kick
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:00 PM
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14. Hillary Clinton: "From Pearls to Populism" Doug Schoen says she's "not a true populist." Really?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 05:01 PM by flpoljunkie
Hillary Clinton: From pearls to populism

MERRILLVILLE, Ind. -- Hillary Clinton began her presidential campaign in pearls, assembling a team of fundraisers that included luminaries from New York's financial services industry.

She's ending it in pickup trucks, Dairy Queens and fire stations, taking a 2-by-4 to "Wall Street money brokers" and vowing to break up oil-rich OPEC.

No development in the 2008 campaign is quite so striking as Clinton's transformation from a front-runner policy wonk with deep pockets to a cash-starved populist staking her hopes in today's North Carolina and Indiana primaries on a promise to lower gas prices.

"If I were president, I would be jumping up and down in the White House" to cut gas prices, she shouted to a crowd of several hundred supporters at a firehouse here.

Necessity is the mother of Clinton's populism, longtime observers say.

"It's a highly effective argument in a primary during an economic downturn," says Doug Schoen, a former pollster for former President Bill Clinton.

"She's not a true populist -- not at all," Schoen says. "She wasn't getting white males ...

in Wisconsin, Virginia and Maryland, and she needed those votes and this is the message. ... Politics is not only about finding a message, it's finding circumstances that fit the message -- and the weak economy provided her with that opportunity."

So don't expect Clinton to be "giving the 'Cross of Gold' speech at the Democratic National Convention," quipped Schoen, referring to populist William Jennings Bryan's 1896 convention speech railing against Eastern money interests.

Nonetheless, Clinton has been delivering a kind of CliffsNotes version of that speech to mostly white crowds throughout Indiana. On Sunday night, she asked members of the state's Democratic party, "Why don't we hold these Wall Street money-brokers responsible for their role in this recession?"

Despite her rhetoric, Clinton's connections to Wall Street are deep. Of the seven companies whose employees have contributed the most to Clinton, five are Wall Street firms -- Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and Lehman Brothers. Donors from those firms have given a total of $1.8 million to her campaign.

Many of Clinton's top campaign bundlers, known as "Hill Raisers," have made their fortunes in the financial services industry, including financier Alan Patricof, venture capitalist Steve Rattner and New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, a former Goldman Sachs executive.

Still, Clinton's resurgence this primary season has been fueled by her focus on pocketbook issues vital to white, blue-collar voters.

-- Glenn Thrush

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/hillary-clint-7.html
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 01:25 PM
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15. kick
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