Hillary -- fighting onward

[DangerDave921]

Gore fought hard after 2000. Kerry didn't fight so hard in 2004 and got raked over the coals here. Hillary is fighting hard in 2008, yet no one on here admires her spunk and courage.

You go girl! As long as its legal, fight as hard as you want to and don't give up.

[NYCGirl]

1. Can you tell the difference between a primary and a general election? NT

[breakaleg]

2. At some point, when the battle becomes a losing one, shouldn't reality step in?

[BlooInBloo]

3. And we'll keep beating her as long as she wants to fight.

[SoCalDem]

4. um.slavery used to be "legal"..so did preventing women from voting

"legal" as in just bad enough to not get arrested..well that's not what I want in a president..Haven't we already suffered through that for almost 8 years?

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Pickett's Charge

There's a time and a place for everything.

[last1standing]

6. Remember that advice when Hillary becomes a pariah in the party.

There is a difference between debating a friend and battling an enemy. You should probably learn that. So should Hillary.

[NJmaverick]

7. More like her destructive self serving narcissistic activities, there is NOTHING

to admire about her anymore. She has lost the race and instead of doing what's best for the party she is throwing a temper tantrum and trying to kneecap Obama. Thank God she wasn't our party's nominee.

[beezlebum]

8. there is a profound difference

in an election being outright stolen from you and fighting a losing battle to prove it, or giving up before the fight began as it was proven fruitless 4 years before, as in gore's and kerry's cases, and in losing a primary fair and square and not wanting to admit it.

not to kick anyone when they are down, bur to respond to why "no one on here admires her spunk/courage" (which i have actually seen soem people admit to :shrug: ), this does not come across as admirable spunk and and courage and persistence and stamina and underdog fighter-ness- it comes across, to me, no offense, as delusional tantrum throwing entitlement and egotism.

[Crunchy Frog]

9. Yay! Go Hillary!

[lapfog_1]

10. If she was fighting a repuke (and she was a Democrat)

it would be a much different story.

Right now, she is fighting (and fighting very dirty) against a fellow Democrat.
AND, she is using every trick from the KKKarl Rove playbook of sleazy campaign tactics.

And it needs to be stopped.

[Clear Blue Sky]

11. Scorched earth policy?

[melody]

12. So you approve of her attacking Obama at the same time McCain is?

Which party do you belong to?

[damntexdem]

13. Fighting further down the death spiral.

Gore gave up after the SCOTUS ruling, even though he had won the election. Kerry gave up too easily, even though he may actually have won the electoral vote, though not the popular vote. Hillary is much worse -- harming the Party after all real hope is gone for her to get the nomination. I have absolutely no respect left for her, not that I had that much after her vote on the Iran War Resolution.

[RiverStone]

14. I do admire her tenacity - but not at the cost of our chances in the GE

No, this girl does not GO anymore.

The moment it became more about her then the party, she stopped going.

Real courage is knowing when to stop - that's the kind of spunk we are looking for now.

[OzarkDem]

25. The GE is being decided right now

The fact that corporate America has pulled their money out of the Clinton campaign and poured it into Obama's means they want to buy their president now.

The news media will craft the messages of the campaign and steer public opinion to determine which candidate wins in November.

They can, and will, redefine the campaign and the candidates in the blink of an eye, in a 24 hour news cycle. Anything Clinton says about Obama now is meaningless and will long be forgotten if Obama wins the nomination.

But if Clinton gets the nomination, we'll have a candidate who has experience in fighting them, in crafting her own message.

[City Lights]

15. Continuing to fight a battle she's already lost is not admirable.

It's embarrassing.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Fighting for an election stolen from you and fighting just for the sake of fighting...

Are two different things, buddy.

[Ioo]

17. You Go Hillary, and Thanks for thaking the Dems Down with ya...

I hate ya both but the math is not there for you... but hey, if you can't win make sure the rest of us lose as well... sink the party, way to go...

[Romulox]

18. Hillary is the only candidate left who even *pretends* to care about rustbelt Dems

The second she drops out, we are completely written off.

So keep up the good fight Hillary!

[marions ghost]

21. I understand but

there are a LOT of constituencies of different kinds all over this country who feel as written off as you do...everywhere. Too many to list right here. Whichever Democrats get in there this year--executive AND congress--we EXPECT them to get in there and make an immediate course correction. All the Dems asses are on the line now.
:kick:

They better get it happening or this country will see some frightening breakdowns. We don't need any more pretenders and abusers after the Bushites. In hard times everybody naturally looks for a savior. But to turn this mess around, it's going to take a lot of work from the people. The leaders need us pushing them. Hopefully this is the start of a long climb out of this pit. NOT going to be easy.

Don't pin it all on a single candidate. Connect with your people and get ready for the window of opportunity that MUST follow this Neocon nightmare.

[lob1]

19. Fighting fair is one thing...

fighting dirty to win at any cost is another. I never want to say I voted for a race-baiter.

[SoonerPride]

20. I wish she fought as hard fo us instead of for herself

But alas, he's just a powerhungry madwomn

[AllentownJake]

22. Fighting for the nomination

and fighting for the Presidency over George W. Bush are different.

[grantcart]

23. actually since she stopped using right wing attacks on Obama I agree

Every state he goes to he sets up the volunteer networks that will serve as the organization to win in the GE


McCain he has no organization at all. No volunteers no fund raising. Nothing.

Obama has more volunteers in Idaho than McCain does. Those volunteers will make it necessary for McCain to spend money in places like Idaho just to keep their margin of error.

[OzarkDem]

24. The fight for the WH is being waged right now

We don't need candidates like Obama and his crowd who make back room deals to appease corporate leaders and the news media. He will be quickly trounced and probably exit with a "golden parachute" for playing along with their game.

The fight against corporate control of our government and the Democratic party is being waged right now, and now is when we have to fight it.

Waiting until the corporate candidate is chosen is too late. The race will be over the candidate will be bought and things will continue as they have. Spineless Dem leaders will be bought for another election cycle and the voters will lose again.


No, the fight for the WH is being waged right now. The deals are being cut and the GE is being decided as we speak. I for one am glad we still have a Democrat like Hillary left to fight for us.

[Orsino]

26. I'm wondering where all this "fight" was for the past several years.

Probably where Obama's change was hiding.