So when Hillary or anyone associated with her campaign

[redqueen]

insults activists or Obama's supporters or whatever... that's "just politics" and ok...

But when posters here do it, we're endangering our party's chances in the GE?

How does that work, exactly?

[NJmaverick]

1. Well first you need to develop a good blind spot in your field of vision

but you compensate for that, by developing much stronger visual acuity when you are looking at Obama and his supporters

[Redbear]

2. It despends on what the meaning of "it" is.

Congrats on your finish in the DU Premier League by the way.

[redqueen]

6. Why thank you.

:)

[Deep13]

3. Got me.

Anyway, does it matter? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right I think people have a right to know what I know.

I don't see what effect it will have on the GE whether posted here or elsewhere. I mean, it's not like the R.s don't know what O's weaknesses are. If the information gets out early, it will not matter so much when repeated in the fall.

I'm a little surprised to see you defending pro-HC posters.

[anonymous171]

4. Because activists are too loyal.

[iamthebandfanman]

5. duh, the base and activists are elitest!

how any clinton supporter can come on DU and say they are being treated unfairly AFTER THEIR CAMPAIGN STARTED THE VILENESS is just beyond me.

what was that stuff the clintons were saying a lil while back ?
if you cant stand the heat? take off your uniform? eh ?

[underpants]

7. Because they are here to toughen us up

to make us more "manly" for the coming Republican onslaught (please ignore that that is a de facto admission of losing)
to ready us and him to commander and chief because they and only they know what that is or could be like
oh and they are just sticking around so our guy isn't embarassed ....from winning or something I haven't heard that one enough to accept it without question yet.

[redqueen]

10. Hehehe... "manly".

Yes... we don't want to appear to be too "effeminate", now do we?

[DogPoundPup]

8. I'm done responding to the victims of the those poor chronic victims, the Clintons

Maybe if we all just let those Clinton supporter 'victims' whine amongst themselves, everyone's blood pressure would come down.

[msallied]

9. I can't sympathize with anyone who actively supported

Clinton's campaign, especially once it devolved into this delusional, disingenuous drain on the Democratic Party.

how's that for alliteration? lol

[JuniperLea]

14. And you can't find it in yourself to rise above...

Take the high road?

Pity.

I can sympathize with any human being, I can even empathize. I find it disheartening the number of Democrats here on DU who cannot. Doesn't seem progressive or liberal at all to me that someone cannot.

[msallied]

16. You know what? You're just as self-righteous as I am.

You're just too big of a pussy to admit that you are, with your haughty little "oh I'm so compassionate too bad you can't be" bullshit. No, I can't sympathize with willful ignorance. Never could and never will. It's not like these people are disabled and unable to control themselves. They have made a conscious decision to attach themselves to a candidate who has been antithetical to the idea of ethics and respect, turning a deaf ear and a blind eye, or downright JUSTIFYING Karl Rove tactics. Screw them.

[NewHampshireDem]

17. Hehe ... I have that person on ignore, but I'd lay dollars to donuts I can tell you who it is

She has a violin that plays only one note ... and for days has jumped into any thread she could to play that same note, over and over and over ... Ask her where she takes her own advice. I predict crickets, or one little linkety link to a half-hearted attempt to 'go after McCain.'

:sigh: The school-marmish thread police really sadden me. They like the idea of 'rising above' is so they can look down their noses at everyone else. Shame on us for not falling into line. :eyes:

[JuniperLea]

11. I don't think it's that way at all

I think the problem lies with the need to unite Hillary supporters, to bring them into the fold so they will vote for Obama should he get the nomination. It is looking very likely that he will. All that said, there are a lot of Hillary hate threads on DU daily. They are unnecessary, they will only lead to more hating between camps. I have no problem with pro-Obama threads. I understand the need to promote him. I don't understand the need for the Hillary hating... and the Chelsea hating is just plain bad taste. What do they serve? What do they accomplish? Will they make her campaign's demise any more certain?

I think they are having an opposite effect. I think they are causing Hillary supporters to dig in their heels instead of accepting what appears to be the final outcome.

I think it's time to stop all this. We need a Democrat in the White House! Many of us have already resolved to hold our nose and vote for the Dem... why do we need the constant beatings? They serve no purpose.

[redqueen]

12. I haven't seen too many "Hillary hate" threads.

Maybe one or two.

I think that as long as Bill and Hill are out there reinforcing rightwing bullshit spew about "elitists", it's kinda naive to think people here are going to ignore it.

[JuniperLea]

13. I'd link you, but I hid a ton of them this morning and I don't care to go through the trash

to find them.

Bill and Hill don't have a gun to anyone's head. Why keep what they are saying in the limelight if it's so opposed? Why not put all this energy into fighting against McCain?

Perhaps it is naive to think people here are going to ignore Hillary. I had hoped they were smarter than this. I was wrong. I don't understand the need to constantly whip a dead horse.

[redqueen]

15. It's not a dead horse if they're still out there vomiting out the RW spew.

And hey... it's not like people here don't add fuel to the fire, despite their nearly constant laughable cries of victimhood.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5937998

[JuniperLea]

24. That's what I'm saying

There's a lot of BS from both camps... and I hope it stops soon.

[jgraz]

19. In HillaryWorld, "Hate Threads" == "Threads that imply the nomination race is over"

[redqueen]

21. Yes... I noticed this a long time ago.

But I refuse to use that defintion. :)

[jgraz]

22. If you use a sober definition of hate, Obama catches far more than Hillary on this board

I defy you to find a single anti-Hillary thread where the poster doesn't list tangible, rational, supported reasons for their anger. On the other hand, a day doesn't go by where there isn't at least one nebulous, hand-waving "I just hate the guy" thread posted about Obama.

[redqueen]

23. What gets me more than anything is the hate is for his supporters.

Neither of these candidates was my first choice. I can see people being frustrated and saying shit... it's a fucking message board for Christ's sake... but supporters?

Have you checked the Edwards forum lately?

*sigh*

[jgraz]

25. They're just following the lead of their Queen

Hillary opened it up when she directly went after supporters of Obama -- one of her worst moments in a string of worst moments.

Being an Edwards supporter really leaves me with zero sympathy for these people. My candidate dropped out and I sucked it up -- even though, at that point, Obama was my second-to-last choice. Hillary has been given far more deference than any other candidate would have been given, and still they want us to approach them on bended knee and apologize for beating her.

[Phillycat]

26. Yes, that "Fuck You, Hillary Clinton" thread that was on the Greatest Page

for most of today was just an anomaly. :eyes:

Are you actually this willfully ignorant?

[redqueen]

27. I alerted on it.

It's ONE thread. And yeah... while it might not be as rare as her "poor us! poor hillary!" fans would like it to be, it's far from the norm.

"Willfully ignorant"... nice. No, I'm fucking objective.

[H2O Man]

18. It works best

when we refuse to respond to people who are posting things that have the aim of stirring the pot. The vast majority of people who supported Senator Clinton will -- like those who supported Biden etc -- support Senator Obama this fall. The few who are resorting to histrionics are not representative of the Clinton campaign supporters.

[redqueen]

20. Histrionics? That's SEXIST!

Kidding, kidding... I know you're right... but it just drives me nutty... all that nonsense. Shouldn't logic kick in at SOME point or another?