When was the last time a "presumptive" nominee lost this badly in one of the last primaries?

[Carrieyazel]

Hillary was supposed to be running on fumes and some predicted that Obama would close at least a small portion of the gap, since the nomination is in the bag and Hillary is done. He couldn't go down this badly, even in West Virginia. Instead, he gets crushed by almost 40 points.

Obama has a problem here. The media could make this into "grave doubts about Obama" in the general.

[Joe the Revelator]

1. Bill Clinton said she would win 80 percent of the vote....looks like Obama beat expectations

and he didn't even challenge for the state.

[tabatha]

2. Obama does not have a problem.

It is the people who won't vote for a black who have the problem.

HUGE.

[enid602]

12. race

It's even worse when the candidate is of both races. No, I take it back, voting against someone because of whatever racial background is bad, especially when there are so many issues at stake.

[AllentownJake]

3. I think it was Carter in 1976

but you can check that. I'm going to bed.

[dubeskin]

4. It was expected

And there was wild speculation that Obama would lose by even a greater margin than what actually happened. And you have to look at the demographics of WV. Quick, name the capital and another large industrial city! The rural votes largely outnumber anything else, and also, it doesn't really matter anymore. Will Obama take WV in November? I'll let you answer that for yourself...

[thoughtcrime1984]

5. You want us to admit he is a shitty candidate, just say it.

........................

[gateley]

6. "Obama has a problem here."

We'll see.

[Johnny__Motown]

7. When was the last time someone stayed in beyond any hope of winning and played the race card in

a southern state?

[Petrushka]

23. If I remember what I learned in grade-school correctly, West Virginia is a mid-Atlantic state.

:shrug:

[Ken Burch]

8. Why do you still even want her to go on?

There's nothing positive that would come of her stealing the nom from the people's candidate.

She doesn't represent anyone.

And her campaign tactics prove that she can't be a progressive president.

You can't win ugly and govern pretty.

[WA98070]

9. Usually the looser has had enough class to step down before something like this would happen.

[Condem]

10. Don't you think the problem is West Virginia?

[TexasObserver]

11. and the world yawned

You're wrong. No one cares about the outcome in West Va except a handful of Hillary fans who can't accept their girl has lost.

[emilyg]

24. It's been on all the news chanels all night.

[scheming daemons]

13. Happens more often than you'd think....

[Skarbrowe]

14. It would have been worse for Obama if she had dropped out.

If he had gotten beaten by 40 points or so by a candidate that had dropped out...well, I think it's better for him now if she stays in.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. Obama won states like Nebraska 68% to Clint's 32, CO 67% 32

Kansas 74%

so what's the big deal about WV?

[charlie]

16. Hillary 2008

Presumptive nominee until she got her doors blown off coming out of the gate. Her "last" primaries on Feb 5 weren't much better.

[Seabiscuit]

17. More importantly, this could affect the voting in the upcoming primaries.

Particularly in Oregon, where Obama is heavily favored to win. What if she pulls an Indiana on him there?

What if it continues like a tidal wave right through into June?

The Super Delegates are going to have to sit up and pay attention.

67%-26% is a shocker by any measure at this stage in the campaign.

[AllentownJake]

20. Pulls an Indiana?????

She was ahead by an average of 6 points in all polls the week before the primary.

So you think she's going to lose 6 points?

[Condem]

22. Yup, Seabiscuit

Like NC, I'm sure your prediction will be dead on. Why are you even weighing in?

[Occam Bandage]

18. Carter, '76. And pretty much everyone was predicting a 35-45 Hillary win.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. The last time this happened, the presumtive nominee became president.

The winner of the late primary went on to become the mayor of Oakland. I bet Sen. Clinton couldn't be elected mayor of Oakland, though.

What do you think?

[CakeGrrl]

21. Obama didn't have a problem in CO or ID or ND or IA or ME or WI or...

...you get my drift.

[MadBadger]

25. Jimmy Carter in 1976...How did that turn out?