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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:47 AM
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Hmmmm, an idea for Senator Clinton to win the Presidency
Bob Barr is going to take votes from Senator McCain's base so why doesn't Senator Clinton run as an Independent also? Actually, I think it should be Senator Obama running as the Independent but it's kind of late in the game for that, Party wise. Wouldn't that make some heads explode around here, a Senator Clinton running in a 4 way race with Barr, Obama and McCain. Who do you think would win?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:52 AM
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1. Three Republicans splitting the vote against one Democrat?
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:53 AM by newmajority
It would be an Obama LANDSLIDE in 50 states. Works for me.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:03 AM
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4. Doubt that
I doubt that very seriously. And careful about calling Senator Clinton a Republican unless that's how you want her supporters to vote in November. Talk about a landslide.
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:02 AM
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10. If the shoe fits the foot of a former President of the Wellesley College Young Republicans...
I can't lurk and hold my tongue any longer - Hillary is doing nothing less than trying to rip this party in two, and no real Democrat would do that. It would be great if she ran as an independent, rid this party of one more DLC intruder.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:29 AM
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11. The only people
trying to rip the party in two are the haters who are so filled with venom they have to spew it at every possible opportunity, using lies, smears and innuendo.

You're not going to win the general by alienating half the party. That's just a stupid approach.
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:57 AM
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13. The only people
Edited on Wed May-14-08 09:58 AM by sfaprog
trying to rip the party in two, so filled with venom they have to spew it at every possible opportunity, using lies, smears and innuendo, are the Clintons.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:52 AM
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2. She couldn't even field a full slate of delegates in PA.
She doesn't have the infrastructure for it.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:52 AM
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3. McCain in a landslide
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:07 AM
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5. oh please.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:09 AM
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6. Lanny is that you Lanny Davis coming out with all kinds of bullshit ideas about the GE?
Maybe you can go back to the McCain-Clinton ticket and then she can just wait him out. Have Bill going around the country stirring up problems and McCain's heart is likely to go out.



McCain-Clinton '08? Obama-Hagel? That's the Ticket


The Democratic and/or Republican nominee could do what Lincoln did -- reach out to a leader of the other party as a running mate at the nominating convention. Another scenario, which I prefer, would be for the two parties to nominate their respective tickets and wage a traditional partisan campaign on the issues, so that voters could see each party's approach and weigh their preferences. After the election, the winner would ask his or her vice president-elect to step down (and become, for example, secretary of state) while inviting the defeated presidential or vice presidential candidate from the other party to serve as vice president. This plan would ideally be announced during the campaign -- with the vice presidential candidate agreeing to act as a placeholder on the ticket -- so that the electorate would be aware of the commitment to a bipartisan presidency.

In this scenario, the vice president could be selected after the election by the Electoral College, which would presumably honor the president-elect's request to vote for the president or vice president of the defeated party. Or the selection could occur after the inauguration, with the newly sworn-in vice president resigning and the resulting vacancy filled, under the 25th Amendment, by a majority vote in both houses of Congress. The advantage of this latter method is that it would receive Congress's ratification of the concept of a bipartisan presidency.

There are any number of provocative possibilities for a bipartisan ticket in 2008. Imagine the buzz if Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton committed to making the other vice president in the event that either won the election. Pick any combination of other names in the current field of potential candidates: Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Chuck Hagel; Democrat Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Republican Mitt Romney; Democrat John Edwards and Republican Michael Bloomberg; Democrat Bill Richardson and Republican Rudolph W. Giuliani. Any of these bipartisan pairings, in any permutation, would create a stir -- and a dynamite ticket. (Okay, strike one possible combination -- there's no way we'll see a Clinton-Giuliani ticket, or vice versa; not only does the Constitution forbid it, as they're both from the same state, but their personal chemistry would preclude it, too.)

Will it happen? In the end, political realism will be the determining factor. If it appears that a bipartisan ticket could enhance the chances of victory, and if any party leader embraces the need to make this a reality for the country's sake, then yes, it's likely to happen.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/12/AR2007011201956_2.html
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:14 AM
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7. Replace Nader with Hillary
as the Democrat's favorite whipping boy? Dandy idea. Maybe she can grab Lieberman for an all-star ticket, if she can coax him out of his cozy apartment in McCain's ass.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:22 AM
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8. Senator Clinton would draw more votes than Mr. Nader
without a doubt. And probably more than Senator Obama.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:14 AM
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9. Probably?
You want Clinton to shoot the moon on a mere probably? If she doesn't have the juice to whup McCain and Obama, she's a pariah. If she can whup McCain, but not Obama, she's still a pariah for scaring the pants off everybody with her vanity run. Ditto if she loses to both. She'd never again make it down the Senate aisle without getting a boot in the ass every step of the way. Like I said, the new Nader.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:34 AM
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16. ROFL
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:55 AM
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12. Can't see it happening it's all about funding.
Edited on Wed May-14-08 09:56 AM by barack the house
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:59 AM
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14. Careful, y'all are drifting into Lieberman territory.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:33 AM
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15. i haven't seen anyone post something that dumb in a looooong time......
:spray:
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