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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:02 PM
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ARG Has Kerrey at 50% in Florida!!!!
www.americanresearchgroup.com
woohoo!

"fatlady is not warming up yet...but she is in the building"
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:03 PM
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1. the fatlady is wearing a "Kerry/Edwards" t-shirt & pin ....good news
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:09 PM
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5. this isn't
anywhere near over. Let's not get complacent folks.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:15 PM
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8. Not Nearly over!
I agree... The interesting thing in the numbers is That Kerry took from Nader Bushe and the undecideds.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:04 PM
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2. Sing it, girl!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:04 PM
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3. too bad about the no-recount BBV machines....
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:09 PM
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4. The numbers
Florida
Likely Voters
Aug 5 Jul 15 Jun 23 May 19 Apr 21 Mar 4

Bush 43% 44% 46% 47% 46% 44%
Kerry 50% 47% 47% 46% 45% 45%
Nader 2% 3% 2% 3% 3% 4%
Undecided 5% 6% 5% 4% 6% 7%
600 likely voters, August 3-5,
MOE ± 4 percentage points
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:09 PM
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6. Holy Crap!!! Kerry up by SEVEN POINTS in Florida!
Fire up the voter purge, Jebbie.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:14 PM
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7. ARG Was All Over The Place In 00
But who cares so was Gallup.....


Will the media flog the story that Bush is substantially behind in a must win state the way they flogged the no bounce Gallup poll


Don't hold your breath....
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:20 PM
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9. Well, the individual state polls seem to debunk the "Baby Bounce" myth.
:D
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:22 PM
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11. I'm Not Really Hung Up About The Bounce...
If you add up all the horse race polls Kerry's winning by three or four points and that's enough for me...

what does :D mean?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 01:08 PM
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19. Oh, that?
(Putting on Dubya Halloween Mask)

"That? :D That's a smiley-face. It means, well, it smiles. It means it's smiling. It's a face, and it's a happy one, a smiling one. That's what it is. A smiley-face."

I'm not hung up about the "bounce" either, DemocratSinceBirth. Hence, the smiley. :D
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 01:49 PM
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21. seems like it was a delayed bounce
voters took some time to digest the message, decided they liked it. Advantage Kerry.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:22 PM
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10. Internals are interesting.
In a ballot question without Nader, 52% of likely voters say they would vote for Kerry and 44% say they would vote for Bush, with 4% of likely voters undecided.

These results are based on 600 completed telephone interviews among a statewide random sample of likely voters in Florida. Of the 600 likely voters, 39% are Republicans, 45% are Democrats, and 16% are not affiliated with any party or affiliated with a minor party. The interviews were conducted August 3 through 5, 2004. The theoretical margin of error for the total sample of 600 is plus or minus 4 percentage points, 95% of the time, on questions where opinion is evenly split.

Florida likely voters Aug 5 Jul 15 Jun 23 May 19 Apr 21 Mar 4

George W. Bush 43% 44% 46% 47% 46% 44%
John Kerry 50% 47% 47% 46% 45% 45%
Ralph Nader 2% 3% 2% 3% 3% 4%
Undecided 5% 6% 5% 4% 6% 7%

While Bush leads Kerry 49% to 43% among white voters (72% of the sample) and 46% to 42% among Hispanic voters (15% of the sample), <b>Kerry leads Bush 87% to 9% among black voters (13% of the sample) which gives Kerry the overall lead.</b>

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:25 PM
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13. An Interesting Artifact About Election 00 In FL
13% of Floridians are African Americans but they represented sixteen percent of the voters in Florida in 00...


African Americans actually voted greater than their numbers in 00... I hope 04 is a repeat....
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:33 PM
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15. I can take some credit for that
I designed the direct mail for the NAACP National Voter Fund. This was the Renee Mullins/Hate Crime piece that infuriated the Republicans. Others are doing similar things this year.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 03:44 PM
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26. In that case..
big ups to you. That's a service to one's country! :)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:23 PM
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12. Careful...Gore Had An Outside MOE Lead, Too...
While I'm very encouraged, yes, no time to get complacent and I sense the Florida vote will be a pleasant surprise for us on Nov. 2...Jebbie or no Jebbie.

Let's hope we don't need Florida to seal the deal here. I'm more concerned with what's going on in Ohio, Missouri, Arizona and West Virginia. We get one or two of those and Florida can go hang.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:26 PM
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14. Gore Didn't Have An Outside The MOE Lead In FL
in the final Florida polls....


It was pretty much a pickem....
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:57 PM
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16. Nope...But We Never Did Get A Real Count On That Poll...
I'm refering to in August/September, 2000...Gore's bounce out of the convention put him briefly up 7 or 8 in Florida. I remember some of the pundits reading Jebbie obit...saying if Florida fell it'd ruin all the Bushies. How prophetic, eh???
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:58 PM
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17. most polls
had Gore behind by one or two points leading up to the Election. They undercounted the African American vote.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 01:01 PM
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18. Yes, Dave...In The Final Polls.
Again I'm talking about the post-convention polls...almost where we are right now in the cycle. My point was not to think that any polls that show Kerry with a lead now in Florida will be there in November...I think we can all bank on that one.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 01:15 PM
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20. I live in the most conservative city in Florida
And I am shocked to see the number of Kerry/Edwards signs and stickers that I have since the convention. In the past, people were very intimidated into not doing so, as cars with stickers for any Dem would be keyed, and houses with signs for democratic candidates would get their windows broken. I am seeing Kerry/Edwards stickers on signs everywhere, and even the cop who live in my complex has a Kerry/Edwards sticker on his SUV. 7 points is the biggest lead Kerry has had in Florida so far, and his lead in a number of other states is getting much better as well:

PA: Kerry 48, Bush 43, Nader 2

FL: 2 New Polls - Kerry +7, Bush +1

MI: Kerry 52, Bush 41

NH: Kerry 49, Bush 42, Nader 2

AR: Bush 46, Kerry 46

NM: Kerry 50, Bush 43, Badnarik 5

CA: Kerry 51, Bush 40, Nader 2

NJ: Kerry 49, Bush 36, Nader 6

OH: Bush 49, Kerry 44, Nader 2

Kerry's leads are now in double digits in many of these battleground states.

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 03:29 PM
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22. Ummm how about some links
PA: Kerry 48, Bush 43, Nader 2 ???

FL: 2 New Polls - Kerry +7, Bush +1 ??? What is the other one???

MI: Kerry 52, Bush 41 Really?

NH: Kerry 49, Bush 42, Nader 2

AR: Bush 46, Kerry 46

NM: Kerry 50, Bush 43, Badnarik 5

CA: Kerry 51, Bush 40, Nader 2

NJ: Kerry 49, Bush 36, Nader 6

OH: Bush 49, Kerry 44, Nader 2 Really???
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 03:38 PM
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24. What city is that Nicholas? (nt)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 03:38 PM
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23. As Dean would say: On to the White House. AAAAARRRRGGGG!!!
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 03:40 PM
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25. Wrong....it's AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEHHHHEAAAIIIIY>
Sheesh get it right would ya? LOL
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