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Wed May-14-08 07:43 PM
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If Bill and Hillary had vigorously campaigned FOR Obama in WV |
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she'd be getting cheers instead of boos when her name is mentioned at rallies. The sad fact is that for whatever shameful reason, they kept up their divisive, below-the-belt (I'm being polite) scorched earth campaign for months past the point where they should have been helping build the party, not destroy it and then stick it with a $20 million debt.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap, or to put it more simply, what goes around comes around. :shrug:
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Wed May-14-08 07:45 PM
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1. like John sang: "Instant Karma going to get you." |
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and Jimi: "And so castles made of sand slip in the sea eventually..."
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Wed May-14-08 07:47 PM
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I'm mildly sympathetic to Hillary's disappointed fans but there's no excuse for the wretched campaign they've been running except the nefarious ones that we're not supposed to mention.
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Wed May-14-08 07:49 PM
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3. Yes, it's not like the class warfare theme they launched hurts or anything |
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and people wonder why we are angry with her. Intellectually dishonesty and now a panderer and a class baiter. Hmmm, not like I'm angry when the Repubs do that.
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Wed May-14-08 07:52 PM
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4. That's right, class AND race, to the tune of FOX and CNN. |
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Good grief the shamelessness of it all would made Nixon blush.
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Wed May-14-08 07:53 PM
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5. Yeah, I don't understand. |
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Hillary can get just what she wants for America, a Democrat in the White House. Even if she is in the Senate, (what about Cabinet, even?) things will be better for her. They agree on most policies and issues, anyway. She can bring the party together in an instant if she wants.
Or, she can keep campaigning in a race she has a 3% chance of winning so that she can ultimately lower the chances that her party wins in 2008.
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Wed May-14-08 07:56 PM
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6. If she'd quit even two weeks ago and hit the trail hard with Bill |
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campaigning for Obama, she'd already be a hero, maybe even veep, especially if she turned around WV. It's madness that she's still in this thing. :shrug:
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Wed May-14-08 07:58 PM
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7. Agreed. Bill was out there dog whistling. I will never forgive him for that |
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Wed May-14-08 07:59 PM
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8. What, exactly, does that mean? It sounds intriguing. |
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Wed May-14-08 08:01 PM
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10. LOL. Speaking in racist code language that most people |
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who aren't from that area won't pick up on.
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Wed May-14-08 08:10 PM
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11. They got an awful lot of help from their media friends. |
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 08:11 PM by dailykoff
Wrightgate was pretty much a license to hate and the Clintons were right there to sign it. Personally I think WV was manipulated in the most cynical possible way mainly for the benefit of the RNC.
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Wed May-14-08 08:14 PM
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14. Ah, that makes plenty of sense. Thank you for the translation |
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:thumbsup:
Sometimes, you have to swallow your pride and just ask...
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Wed May-14-08 08:18 PM
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16. I just learned the meaning a few weeks ago! nt |
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Wed May-14-08 08:28 PM
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24. Who did you learn it from? |
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Wed May-14-08 08:39 PM
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38. someone on DU! I forgot who! I think "dog whistle" in of itself is a "dog whistle" term |
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I've learned a lot during this primary!
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Wed May-14-08 09:15 PM
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Wed May-14-08 08:00 PM
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Wed May-14-08 08:11 PM
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12. She's supposed to campaing FOR her opponent? |
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There isn't even a smilie for the expression on my face.
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Wed May-14-08 08:14 PM
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13. That's the way it works, yes. See Edwards, John. |
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And here's that smilie you were looking for: :+
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Wed May-14-08 08:16 PM
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15. He is inevitable. Why aren't you riding the 'O' Train yet? |
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Get with the TIMES!!!
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Wed May-14-08 08:22 PM
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18. He's not inevitable, but he's a good candidate and he won the contest. |
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There's no conceivable reason to have kept this thing going so long and on such a low road, or at least conceivably helpful to Democrats.
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Wed May-14-08 08:25 PM
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20. Except for *facts* and stuff like that. |
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The last contest is less than 3 weeks away.
Put your presents back under the tree. We will have Christmas, when it is Christmas.
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Wed May-14-08 08:27 PM
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23. The contest has been decided. |
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She should have dropped out for the same reasons Huckabee and Romney dropped out, because they couldn't win and hanging around only hurts the nominee.
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Wed May-14-08 08:31 PM
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27. Sorry, we disagree. Why in the **** is Edward's endorsement the TOP NEWS STORY tonight? |
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Because people are paying attention, and voting, and getting involved.
I am sorry that you can't wait to open your presents, but calling the race over* is pure fantasy at this point.
Its like those damned "Choose Your Own Adventure" books...
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Wed May-14-08 08:35 PM
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29. It takes awhile for popular perception to catch up to the facts, |
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but Obama's had it effectively tied up since Super Tuesday, mathematically since at least last week. Edwards is news because he could have held out and not decided at all but he stuck his neck out like Richardson did.
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Wed May-14-08 08:37 PM
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31. Stuck his neck out....HA |
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Are you serious?
They need to update the March "Talking Points."
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Wed May-14-08 08:27 PM
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22. Yeah. I'll wait for the next train, thanks. |
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Wed May-14-08 08:31 PM
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26. You can fuckin' walk then, traitor! |
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Wed May-14-08 08:39 PM
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Wed May-14-08 08:20 PM
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17. No - but howzabout not saying all his supporters think they're better than you. |
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Wed May-14-08 08:24 PM
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Shamefully low, and not even the lowest. The terrorist stuff was even lower and she did it in a nationally televised debate.
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Wed May-14-08 08:36 PM
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30. Yep, the Kool-Aid has eaten away their brain. |
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Wed May-14-08 08:40 PM
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"I know John McCain has passed that threshold."
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Wed May-14-08 08:25 PM
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Wed May-14-08 08:30 PM
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It's been bugging me since last week. She'd have done herself a hell of a lot more good by endorsing the candidate instead of slashing his tires, but then who the hell knows what the Clintons are up to anyway.
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Wed May-14-08 08:35 PM
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28. What the HELL are you talking about????? |
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Why should Bill or Hillary have campaigned for Obama in WV? Let him figure out how to get the blue collar vote. Last time I checked, she's still in the race.
The Obama groupies just demonstrated at his rally once more how the meme of unity is nothing but a sham and empty platitudes.
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Wed May-14-08 08:37 PM
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WTF would she campaign for Obama? It's not GE. It's a primary. But I guess those things are supposed to happen in Obamaland.
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Wed May-14-08 08:45 PM
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41. They don;t realize how many of Hillary supporters they are losing by the day. |
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Heck, tonight it was by the hour.
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Wed May-14-08 08:37 PM
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Democratic party? Big tent? Coalition? The Clintons are kind of lousy at it so I can see where you might be confused.
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Wed May-14-08 08:48 PM
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The media, you left wingers and the party leaders have done nothing but bash Hillary for months and you people now want to talk about party unity????????? The hell with party unity!!!! Unified is the last thing that I feel at the moment. Leaving the party and going Independent is more what I feel right now.
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Wed May-14-08 09:20 PM
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47. She could have finagled herself a place on the ticket. |
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We both know she doesn't have a chance now. So what on earth is the point of staying in, seriously? The game has been over for weeks. :shrug:
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Wed May-14-08 08:39 PM
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35. "divisive below the belt behavior..." of running? |
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Whatever.
Backwards and in high heels.
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Wed May-14-08 08:47 PM
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She stands between Obama and his title.
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Wed May-14-08 08:39 PM
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37. Thanks for sizing it up perfectly. .... |
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and you did it one paragraph too! Says it all. Good post.
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Wed May-14-08 08:42 PM
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40. thanks, glad I'm not the only one! |
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Too bad the Clintons still haven't figured it out... :wtf:
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Wed May-14-08 08:52 PM
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44. You guys are amazing. You are suggesting that instead of campaigning for herself |
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she should be campaigning for Obama. Just when I think DU cannot get any more ludicrous, someone says something so insane, I am....laughing in disbelief.
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Wed May-14-08 09:01 PM
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45. right, the clintons are responsible for O-ists' bad behavior. aren't the clintons responsible for ev |
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 09:03 PM by VotesForWomen
everything bad that's ever happened in the world?
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