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Wed May-14-08 11:14 PM
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Obama's Vice Prez = WHO?? Dream Cabinet = who?? |
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Edited on Thu May-15-08 12:10 AM by ChristianDemocrat1
Who should be Barak Obama's Vice-President?
A) Hillary Clinton - as a woman, she can win more McCain supporters.
B) John Edwards - as another young man w/ little national experience, he can increase the sense of youthful hope.
C) John Conyers - as another liberal, black congressman from neighbor state, he broadens the ticket's appeal.
D) Howard Dean - w/ feisty wit & national networking, he's the perfect "gentleman's pitbull" against the pundits & repugs.
E) Fill-in-the-Blank - ________________________________________.
How about nominees for Obama's Cabinet? A) Secretary of State - Webb? Biden? B) Secretary of Defense - Clark? C) Attorney General - Edwards? (What Bobby was to John?) D) Secretary of Labor - Robert Reich? E) Secretary of Education - Sebellius? F) Surgeon General G) Secretary of Treasury H) Secretary of Transportation etc....
just ideas.... and hopefully a little unifying vision-building....
Keep in mind that, in an anti-Repug year like this, anyone presently in office should readily be able to be replaced with a Democrat.
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Wed May-14-08 11:15 PM
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Just to piss off the Rush.
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Wed May-14-08 11:16 PM
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3. Good on foreign policy, bad on everything else. VERY BAD. |
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Wed May-14-08 11:20 PM
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7. It is time to repair this country |
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The Bush years have isolated the progressives from having a say in the politics of this country. We must not forget that about half this country still leans to conservative principals. We must repair the divide. What better way that to have a former republican as a VP.
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Wed May-14-08 11:22 PM
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12. The GOP would have too much of an incentive to "get rid of" Obama. |
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Wed May-14-08 11:33 PM
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19. Crazy fuckin' talk. First off, the MAJORITY of this country is PRO CHOICE. |
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:36 PM by impeachdubya
The GOP isn't going to put anyone pro choice on their ticket. So, what, we should have anti choicers stacking BOTH tickets?
When- like I said- The majority of this country is pro choice. Yeah, let's make sure there are close to ZERO reasons to differentiate between the GOP and us. Great idea.
If anything, the American Public is far more LIBERAL- or at least socially libertarian- than the "conventional wisdom" waterheads give them credit for. They want government OUT of their bedrooms and bloodstreams.
This is why Terri Schiavo bit the GOP on the ass.
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Wed May-14-08 11:28 PM
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16. That's what my husband is hoping for... |
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of course he is farther to the center than I am. I don't have a person in mind yet, but I would think a white male (preferably from the south) who has strong defense/national security credentials is a good idea. I would say Jim Webb, but I think he should keep his seat in the Senate, not to mention the fact that two senators seem like a really bad idea...
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Wed May-14-08 11:15 PM
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Just to piss off the Rush.
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Wed May-14-08 11:34 PM
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20. You are RRRRRepeating yourself. nt |
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Wed May-14-08 11:17 PM
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Foreign policy experience, former Republican, understands the often misunderstood-by-liberals white "redneck" culture and travels in it with extraordinary ease.
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Wed May-14-08 11:21 PM
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9. He s a great choice. From the Regan camp |
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Thu May-15-08 12:03 AM
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30. Someone who can pull in disenfranchised Repugs |
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and continue the theme of uniting the country... Obama's first act towards "a new kind of politics in Washington" --- magnanimous reaching across the aisle to notable level-heads on the other side.
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Wed May-14-08 11:17 PM
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He kills the military hero argument, and he CAN repair our military - I'm talking about the veterans.
Or the secretary of D
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Wed May-14-08 11:21 PM
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Wed May-14-08 11:19 PM
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White southern Democrats, Vietnam vets, foreign policy experience (NATO Commander and Reagan's Sec'y of the Navy, respectively). What more could you ask for when the knock against Obama is inexperience (and even "a lack of patriotism") when running against Mr. War Hero and Foreign Policy (ass backwards) Guru John McCain?
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Wed May-14-08 11:25 PM
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14. Clark, Webb or Dean is what comes to mind for me |
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wondering what others are thinking out there.
I mean...
Clark - brings in the military toughness angle that Democrats are perceived to be deficient in.
Webb - yeah, white hell-raiser types should like him --- and he's pitbull tough like Dean to bring balance to the Force, that is, to complete the "Good Cop, Bad Cop" balance to Obama's "nice guy elitist wimp" image.
Dean - same as Webb only less white hellraiser and more intellectuo-politico pitbull
If any of that makes sense to anybody. I just think the Vice Prez slot is customarily the attack & guard dog responsibility
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Wed May-14-08 11:21 PM
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:22 PM by Gore1FL
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Wed May-14-08 11:23 PM
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13. Gov. Brian Schweitzer |
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Wed May-14-08 11:26 PM
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Wed May-14-08 11:30 PM
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17. Dream Team for Obama's Cabinet? |
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:34 PM by ChristianDemocrat1
the Jim Webb arguments are pretty persuasive for VP
wow! Maybe Dean can be like, Press Secretary
Webb or Clark can be Secretary of State OR Secretary of Defense or something
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Wed May-14-08 11:33 PM
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18. Howard Dean! What is the purpose of the office of VP? |
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For building a long term, dare I say permanent, strong Democratic majority in the USA, Howard Dean is the person.
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Wed May-14-08 11:37 PM
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22. That's part of the appeal to me for Dean -- his networking abilities |
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Obama is going to need someone who can finesse the Democratic Congress while doing the dirty jobs so Obama can maintain his "saint" image
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Wed May-14-08 11:35 PM
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Ah, probably won't happen. I still think Bill Richardson is the most likely choice.
Edwards wouldn't be a bad move, though, given recent events in particular.
Edit: I also like Wes Clark.
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Wed May-14-08 11:39 PM
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He betrayed us on the impeachment issue so he is not a good choice.I think Edwards is the best
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Wed May-14-08 11:48 PM
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Wed May-14-08 11:52 PM
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26. General Clark! He brings many unique qualities to the table. Here's a few... |
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Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:54 PM by ingin
NatSec experience, southerner, background in economics, vet, international contacts, highly respected on the hill and in the lower and middle echelons of the Pentagon.
Then there are these two nuggets. As a high profile Clinton supporter, it helps party unification. And his tenure on FOX as an unapologetic critic of Bush and the Iraq war. This served as a two-fer. He can provide a margin of independents and moderate Republicans that watch FOX and flip them in the GE. Even if it's only a few thousand votes here and there, it could prove to be the difference.
And if you ask any die-hard Clarkie, his stint on FOX gave him the debate chops he was missing in 2004.
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Wed May-14-08 11:59 PM
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27. Wow! Killer argument there... |
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And someone made a great argument for Edwards as Attorney General on another thread...
Just wondering if Clark is still a household name enough, though, or even enough actual elected office experience for VP ...
Ooops! I stayed up too late... checking out now... ('nite!!)
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Thu May-15-08 12:58 AM
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33. The lack of elected office experience is overturned by.... |
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his experience navigating the politics of being the SACEUR NATO during Bosnia. He was able to produce results on the ground while being caught in a multi-angle tug-of-war between William Perry's Pentagon, Bill Clinton's Oval Office, Joint chiefs Chair Hugh Shelton, and the Russians.
Just being SAC NATO is like a governorship of a 51st US state. His duties involved everything from conducting the military operations of a multi-national force, to the day to day operations of one of the largest permanent US military populations outside of the US at the time.
Since his first trial by fire in '04, he has been an active campaigner and fundraiser for many of the freshman class of '06 including Patrick Murphy, Jim Webb, Joe Sestak, John Salazar, Jon Tester, and three notables that didn't make it, Paul Hackett, Tammy Duckworth, and Eric Massa.
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Thu May-15-08 12:01 AM
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28. BIDEN for anything. He's still the smartest of anyone mentioned above.. VP or SOS |
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Thu May-15-08 12:06 AM
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31. was thinking of him earlier today for this, too |
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or maybe he could be like Secretary of State --- kind of looks like James Baker even (if you squint real hard... while holding your breath... after inhaling)
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Thu May-15-08 02:24 PM
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39. Eh. Don't let him anywhere near military or domestic social policy. |
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Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:24 PM by impeachdubya
I think his ego & his well-known propensity for putting his foot in his mouth will keep him off the ticket. I agree that he's smart, but it's worth noting that his smarts didn't keep him from pushing his idiotic RAVE act on the American People.
Let's put Biden in charge of something he can sink his considerable intellect into, like meeting our 21st century energy needs.
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Thu May-15-08 12:03 AM
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29. Mayor Bloomberg of NY will be his VP pick. n/t |
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Thu May-15-08 01:41 AM
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35. Treasury = George Soros |
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Alright, you did say it was a dream list.
George Soros might be one of the very few people out there who might be able to pull us off the edge of the cliff in terms of finding a solution to the future obligations we can't pay.
Also, the fact is we're underperforming the rest of the developed world the way lousy stock just keeps going down every day. George understands the global economy and may be able to salvage some chance of us regaining our former position as global innovator and leader.
Very tall order I know but I like George. Yes, he's old and has a funny accent but he's the man!
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Thu May-15-08 02:21 PM
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36. Put him in charge of the DEA, and he can begin dismantling it. |
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Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:21 PM by impeachdubya
It's fucking absurd that we waste massive amounts of money and resources trying to keep consenting adults from putting things in their own bodies the government doesn't like. The "Drug War" budget is something like 50 Billion and rising, and the vast majority of that goes to fighting pot smoking.
It's well past time to focus on harm reduction and treatment for hard drugs, and to legalize, regulate and TAX marijuana.
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Thu May-15-08 02:25 PM
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He would be terrific in that role.
Edwards for AG or Labor Secretary.
Sebellius should be on the short list for VP...also like Richardson as a possibility, There are a lot of good options for VP.
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Thu May-15-08 02:36 PM
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41. Webb or Sebelius for VP |
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Edwards - AG Clark - SecState Webb - SecDef Albright - UN Ambassador
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