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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:17 AM
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Bush suggests Obama wants 'appeasement' of terrorists
Edited on Thu May-15-08 08:18 AM by JimGinPA
JERUSALEM (CNN) – In a particularly sharp blast from halfway around the world, President Bush suggested Thursday that Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats are in favor of "appeasement" of terrorists in the same way U.S. leaders appeased Nazis in the run-up to World War II.

"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," said Bush, in what White House aides privately acknowledged was a reference to calls by Obama and other Democrats for the U.S. president to sit down for talks with leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

The remarks seemed to be a not-so-subtle attempt to continue to raise doubts about Obama with Jewish-Americans. Those doubts were already stoked by Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, when he recently charged that Obama is the favored candidate of the terror group Hamas.

“Obviously this is an unprecedented political attack on foreign soil,” Obama Communications Director Robert Gibbs told CNN’s John Roberts on American Morning Thursday, adding that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates had been quoted Wednesday making remarks about dialogue with Iran that were similar to the Illinois senator's.

“Let's not confuse precondition with preparation,” said Gibbs of any talks with Iran. “Obviously these meetings would be full of preparation. But we're not going to sit down and engage Iran, unless or until they give up their nuclear weapons program.


“It is unfortunate that an American president would fly halfway across the world and make a political attack instead of honoring the tremendous accomplishment and achievement of the 60th anniversary of the birth of Israel,” he added.

more at link

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/15/bush-suggests-obama-wants-appeasement-of-terrorists/

It's on now!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:18 AM
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1. "You know you can trust what I say. Smirk." - Commander AWOL
Edited on Thu May-15-08 08:20 AM by SpiralHawk
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:20 AM
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2. Obama just fired back - striking him good.
Also, one of Bush's generals was suggesting talks with Iran as well? I'm listening live, so I'm not clear on the detail - but it doesn't look good for Bush or McSameas to go down this path.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:21 AM
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3. Bush is an idiot. Why would anyone take his assessment seriously?
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:29 AM
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11. Exactly! He is an idiot with the lowest approval ratings since Hoover (Great Depression).
Despite what the right-wing corporate MSM spews, the people know Bush is rotten.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:23 AM
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4. And Bush plagiarizes Rumsfeld in the process !!!!
he's what that old facsist Rummy had to say...
"Someone recently recalled one U.S. senator's reaction in September of 1939. Upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II he exclaimed, "Lord, if only I had talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided." I recount that history, because once again, we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism, with the growing lethality and the increasing availability of weapons, can we truly afford to believe that somehow, some way, vicious extremists can be appeased?"

http://www.defenselink.mil/Speeches/Speech.aspx?SpeechID=1033

And the Senator they are talking about was an anti-interventionist REPUBLICAN named William E. Borah, the "Lion of Idaho.
Senator Burah had more in common with Pat Buchanan than any Democrat at the time ( or ever).
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:32 AM
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5. Interestingly that Senator was none other than a republican from Idaho
...William Edger Borah who did say:

"Lord, if I could only have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided." —September 1939, upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland.<6>


...other quotes included:

"No more fatuous chimera has ever infested the brain than that you can control opinions by law or direct belief by statute, and no more pernicious sentiment ever tormented the heart than the barbarous desire to do so. The field of inquiry should remain open, and the right of debate must be regarded as a sacred right." —1917 <4>
"America has arisen to a position where she is respected and admired by the entire world. She did it by minding her own business ... the European and American systems do not agree." —1919 speech in Brooklyn opposing the League of Nations. <5>


<snip>
William Edgar Borah
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William E. Borah



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

United States Senator
from Idaho
In office
March 4, 1907 – January 19, 1940
Preceded by Fred Dubois
Succeeded by John W. Thomas

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Born June 29, 1865(1865-06-29)
near Fairfield, Illinois
Died January 19, 1940 (aged 74)
Washington, D.C.
Political party Republican
Spouse Mamie McConnell
Residence Boise
Profession Attorney
Religion Protestant
William Edgar Borah (June 29, 1865 near Fairfield, Illinois – January 19, 1940 Washington, D.C.) was a prominent attorney and longtime United States Senator from Idaho noted for his oratorical skills and isolationist views. One of his nicknames later in life was "The Lion of Idaho."


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edgar_Borah
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:35 AM
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6. This Is Not Going To Help McSame Distance Himself From Bu$h...
And you know Obama is going to dominate another news cycle with his response.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:35 AM
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7. Shrub is an dumb as hell....
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:41 AM
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8. Instead of leadership of any sort - he campaigns in Israel, maybe next he will campaign in Russia
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:06 AM
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9. I personally think Obama should have hit back harder than that
Comparing him to Nazi appeasers.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:14 AM
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10. This was, of course, why Clinton was all pro-war leading up to the primaries.
Obama should respond pointedly.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:07 AM
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12. This Seems To Be The M$M Story De Jour Now...
I think Dubya might have stepped in it.
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