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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:20 AM
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This political genocide has got to stop!
Whether we know it or not, we are on our way to a third Bush nomination. All of this political infighting is so petty! This goes for both sides of the democratic isle. How so many people sound so much like children? People come to Democratic Underground and completely demean and tear down the nominee that they are not endorsing, for something as petty as race or gender. If people would study the facts, this country did not want to see the black race or the white woman succeed! All you have to do is take a look at the voting rights. In 1920 white women were finally given the right to vote. In 1965, the literacy test, that was a huge barrier to allow blacks to vote, was banned.

I've said this here before, instead of attacking each other, how about going after the true enemy? How about attacking John McCain, softening him up, so that when it is time for the general election, he will be a more exposed.

This B.S. has really got to stop! It is real sickening to read some of the articles, see some of the comments on t.v., and hear stories on the radio about how people refuse to vote for a particular nominee because of their color or gender. I was reading somewhere that Rev. Wright need to leave the 60's alone. It appears to me that many people need to leave the 60's alone right along with Rev. Wright!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:22 AM
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1. There's nothing petty about Clinton's tactics
Edited on Thu May-15-08 09:24 AM by crankychatter
I concur with you... but ascribing the "below the belt" Primary to BOTH campaigns has been a CNN propaganda meme from the gate.

It wasn't true then and it's not true now

edited to add: perhaps "fratricide" would be a more appropriate word

edited again to add: now I'm probably a sexist because fratricide is insufficiently gender neutral...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:33 AM
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8. You just don't want to see it
but Clinton hasn't done anything more objectionable than Obama.

You blame clinton herself for everything, and absolve Obama of all responsibility for anything. That's just myopic.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:19 PM
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32. are you saying that Obama's camp has not hit below the belt? If you are... ROFL
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:24 AM
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2. Give up.
Note that the first reply you got was a slam. The "Grave Dancing" will continue as long as the arrogance dictates.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:28 AM
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4. Oh, so you acknowledge she is a dead woman walking?
I wish she would realize that, but she doesn't.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:24 AM
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29. Just keep saying that.
I am starting to really love all the discord here and across the country. As a Parliamentary Socialist, I am coming to terms with the fact that I see the Democratic Party like a dinosaur fast approaching its appointment with the Chicxulub Asteroid.

So I think I've changed my mind. Since likely Obama WILL become the nominee, and since he is about as Centrist as Huber Humphrey, AND McCain is tied or doing better than him in so many venues, AND the chances me winning the lottery beats the chances of Obama doing anything worth talking about South of the Mason/Dixon Line (not a racist slur, just fact: Dems don't win the South), just keep up the good work, and we'll have a 3rd party in no time no matter who wins.

As ol' Tiberius Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus was attributed to have said: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out."
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:27 AM
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3. What does Hillary being a woman have to do with anything?
We criticize her for her behavior which is completely reprehensible. She is an embarrassment to all women and I'm not afraid to say so.

McCain is simply pathetic. But he isn't venal like she is.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:30 AM
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5. Nothing To See Here...Move Along...
"McCain is simply pathetic. But he isn't venal like she is."


Calling you wife a "cunt" isn't venal...

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:31 AM
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6. Saying a black man can't win white working class voters is way more venal.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 09:33 AM by dkf
Sorry.

And Bill's having sex with an intern while Hillary was in the White House is way more insulting and disrespectful than McCain calling his wife a bad name.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:33 AM
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7. She Interpeted The Data In A Ham Handed Way
Edited on Thu May-15-08 09:33 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
And if a man called a woman a "cunt" in my presence I would drop him...I might make a dispensation for McCain because he is old and physically challenged...

Sorry...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:35 AM
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9. She gave permission for bigots to vote that way.
If you haven't picked up on the dogwhistles along the way, you are being obtuse.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:36 AM
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10. Maybe The People Who Vote For Her Just Like Her And Remember The Clinton Years Fondly
If you can not believe that there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion..
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:41 AM
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14. That was then, this is now. And that was Bill, this is Hill.
Besides, I didn't do all that great under Bill Clinton. Ironically I'm doing better under George Bush.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:45 AM
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18. I'm Glad You Did Better Under Bush But The Rest Of The Nation Didn't
Under Clinton the African American unemployment level was at its lowest level in history...Ditto for Latinos...

The number of Americans living below the poverty line was at its lowest level in a generation...

An American could travel abroad and not be hated because of the administration...

I could go on...

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:57 AM
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24. I know that. I'm just saying I don't have great memories of the Clinton years.
thats all.
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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:41 AM
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13. How about Obama?
When Obama said that he was getting 90% of the black vote, does that give the bigotted blacks the permission to vote for him?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:43 AM
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17. You need to watch Chris Matthews vs. Pat Buchanan
then maybe you will understand.

Pat Buchanan was saying exactly what you are saying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=132235&mesg_id=132235
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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:45 AM
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19. Missed my point...
Reread your post I responded to.

Oh, just forget it!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:02 AM
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27. OK, let me recap what Chris said.
Blacks have had very few Governors and Senators, so when the opportunity comes to vote for a Black President, they vote out of positive pride.

Whites have been in control of this country from the get go, so it is not positive pride that drives this. Instead, it is a desire to not have someone of another race as President, which is voting out of negativity.

To which I add there are whites that never have and never will vote for a black person. I highly doubt that a black person who has voted in the past hasn't voted for a white person ever.

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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:54 AM
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22. They needed her permission?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:55 AM
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23. Yes, because its not politically correct to do this kind of stuff.
She tells them its okay to vote for a person for any reason you want to...hairstyle, bigotry, whatever.

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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:40 AM
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11. You're kidding right?
Just read what you wrote:

FIRST you wrote:
"What does Hillary being a woman have to do with anything?"

THEN you wrote:
"She is an embarrassment to all women and I'm not afraid to say so."

I guess it has everything to do with her being a woman to you.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:48 AM
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20. No. sigh. Do I really have to explain this?
My dislike is based on her actions, not on her sex. I would dislike a man or a woman if they pulled these shenanigans.

Her being embarrassing is just an unfortunate byproduct.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:42 AM
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15. I wasn't talking about the way they candidates
run their campaigns. I am talk about the voters, the people making the decisions. I am an Obama supporter! I would love to see the brother become president. I just want to see people stop attacking each other over who or who they are not voting for. Then to see people say they will either not vote, vote for an independent, or -- worse yet -- vote for McCain. This is why I am saying we are headed down the road of a third Bush presidency.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:56 AM
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30. The Keating Five
Venal. Get real.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:41 AM
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12. Genocide? Wow, I had no idea
That we could eradicate a whole group of people with posts on an internet message board.

Perhaps the first step in healing is to tone down the rhetoric and stop using words like genocide.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:51 AM
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21. How is this such a bad play on words?
I guess you've never spoken figuratively? Plus, please use the entire context, I said "Political Genocide"! Which is what is happening when comments turn personal over which candidate they are supporting. When people are placed on ignore, having profanity used against them and threatened with physical violence, if that other person was in their presence, sounds like an eradication to me.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:16 PM
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31. Comparing petty bickering to mass murder???
That's WAY OVER THE TOP!

It indicates that you have lost all perspective.

It indicates that you are out of touch with reality.

It indicates that you don't know what you are talking about.

But, if it makes you happy, be my guest.

It is your reputation that is damaged, not mine.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:43 AM
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16. Have you been consulting a crystal ball?
:D



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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:58 AM
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25. Tell that to Hillary and her gang. Why does she continue her campaign when she cannot win?
Is she exercising the "Tonya harding" option?
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:00 AM
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26. Has Hillary even made a single criticism of McCain? All I recall are complements from Hill and Bill.
n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:04 AM
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28. Hint: Calls for calm that talk about "genocide" are not going to be taken seriously.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:21 PM
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34. Right up there with "verbal lynching".
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