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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:13 AM
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Does anybody know the etymology of the name Sebelius?
I was just wondering this after something was brought up in another thread about VPs. Kathleen Sebelius has a very cool name I think...I was just wondering what the root for Sebelius is?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:15 AM
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1. There's a Finnish composer with that name, but it sounds more
Estonian to me. Both are Ugraic languages. So the root will be a bit more difficult to come up with. I'll see what I can find.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:48 AM
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13. Close
the Finnish composter is "Sibelius", with an "i".
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tonkatoy57 Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:16 AM
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2. Well,
The composer, Jean Sibelius, was born to a Swedish speaking family in what is now Finland.

So, I'd guess at Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, or maybe Russian.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:16 AM
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3. Here you go...
<snip>
May 19th, 2006
Sebelius and Sibelius
Filed under:Genealogy, Sibelius (composer)

So, Alex Ross wonders whether Kansas Governer Kathleen Sebelius is related to composer Jean Sibelius.

I haven’t had time this week for my planned “real” post, so ok, I’ll bite. Being a bit of a genealogy nerd, I have access to some resources, and here’s the answer:

I don’t know.

But, I do know these things:

Jean Sibelius, although known as a Finnish composer, was ethnically Swedish (as many Finns are today; Finland is a bilingual Finnish/Swedish-speaking country).
Governor Sebelius’ husband Gary is the great grandson of a Christian Sebelius, who identifies Sweden as his birthplace in the 1900 Census
Gary Sebelius’ grandfather, Carl, was a dentist. No real value here, but isn’t it kind of creepy that I can find that out?
No luck figuring out where in Sweden Christian came from. But, he was a contemporary of Jean Sibelius (whose real name, interestingly, was Johan Julius Christian Sibelius). Jean Sibelius was born in H�meenlinna, which was part of Russia at the time, not Sweden.

Still, dollars to doughnuts, they are related, if distantly. That’s my educated hunch. Regardless, I agree with Mr. Ross that it would be lovely to have a president named Sebelius.

http://www.aboutthecomposer.com/archives/132
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:16 AM
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4. I googled it
It says she is a direct descendant of Thor the Viking God of Personal Pan Pizzas
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:19 AM
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6. That is just plain silly, Vikings did not know about Pizzas 800 to 900 years ago
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:22 AM
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7. Yeah. They didn't discover pizza until 300 years ago.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:32 AM
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10. Oh crap here is a link to the history of Vikings
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:17 AM
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5. Anagram for "Lib see us!". Wonder whatever happened to the astrology forum here, anyway....n/t
PB
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:27 AM
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8. Her maiden name is Gilligan
Her dad was an Ohio governor, John Gilligan.

I just dread the possibility of the GOP calling Kathleen Obama's little buddy and cartoons depicting her dressed as Gilligan.

I love my governor and I really hopes she remains my governor.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:54 AM
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18. does this mean sebelius could help carry ohio? a + I never knew about (before now) ... nt
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:06 AM
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21. I don't think a lot of people know
that's why I mention it whenever I can. I guess it all depends on how popular her dad is and how much Ohioans like her.

fwiw, her husband Gary is the son of a former Kansas US Rep. Keith Sebelius, a Republican. Gary is a federal magistrate judge. http://www.cjonline.com/stories/012003/leg_mrsebelius.shtml
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:04 PM
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25. If Obama picks Sebelius as his running mate, by Nov, ALL OHIO will know, that's for sure! nt
Edited on Thu May-15-08 01:04 PM by cloudythescribbler
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:28 AM
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9. Perhaps it means "She who is destined to rule o'er the Prairie?" (NT)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:37 AM
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11. Let's cut the crap and show some respect by posting legitimate information
...on a likely democratic running mate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Governor_Kathleen_Sebelius_Official_2008_Photo.jpg


Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius (born May 15, 1948) is currently serving as the 44th Governor of Kansas.<1> She is the second female governor of Kansas, the 2008 respondent to the State of the Union address,<2> and chair-emeritus of the Democratic Governors Association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:53 AM
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17. Yes, stop being silly now.
This is a registered no fun zone.
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:47 AM
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12. Something to do with oily secretions of skin, I think.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:50 AM
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15. this is humor? n/t
.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:12 AM
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23. LOL methinks you mean sebaceous.
Too funny! Reminds me of an old comic named Norm Crosby or Cosby, I can't remember which. His schtick was to use words out of context.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:49 AM
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14. Well
she got the name from her husband. She was born Kathleen Gilligan.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:52 AM
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16. In Scandinavia, Sir
In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries it was fairly popular for upper-crust and aspiring types to adopt a Latinized form of a Germanic family name: 'Caselius' for 'Karlsonn', for example. Probably something like this ocurred, but what the original root might be is beyond me.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:54 AM
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19. The root is Sibbe. However I haven't found a meaning of it yet. nt
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mnotme Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:03 AM
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20. Sibbe
Sibbe was the name of the family estate.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:09 AM
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22. I think the name Sebelius comes from the guardian of the gates to Hades in Greek mythology.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:18 PM
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27. I think that is "Cerberus"
:rofl:
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:56 PM
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28. You know I was kidding, right?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 03:08 PM
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29. Sometimes I wonder....
:rofl:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:13 AM
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24. If it's her married name, how does it matter in the first place? n/t
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 01:48 PM
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26. It doesn't...
and doesn't her birth name Gilligan mean 3 hour or Deserted in the original Celtic?;-)
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