**Obama magic number 133.5** Delegate Endorsements Updated

[grantcart]

The magic number in the headline is from Obama.com. Details can be found on DemconWatch - the most authoritative source of delegate information.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html

1) Rep. McDermott (WA) endorses Obama


Rep. Jim McDermott on Thursday became the fourth U.S. House member from Washington to endorse Barack Obama for president.

The Seattle Congressman told the P-I's Joel Connelly that Obama is his pick because "I am confident as president he will end the war in Iraq and bring our sons and daughters home."

McDermott has represented Seattle for 19 years and is one of the more liberal voices in the Democrats' 235-member House caucus. He is the last House member from this state to declare his support for a presidential candidate.



If any Super Delegates or Pledged Delegates announce pls update thread.

Obama's Pelosi Magic Number is 25.

DemconWatch's magic number is 137 and 26.5

[MadBadger]

1. Is DemconWatch adding those Edwards delegates who announce they'll back Obama?

[grantcart]

37. The will when they make a specific statement here is what they say on background

With John Edwards' endorsement of Barack Obama this evening, the question everyone is asking is, "What happens to Edwards' pledged delegates?"

Well, the first answer, is nothing. As we were reminded yesterday, pledged delegates can vote for anybody at any time. So, rules-wise, Edwards' endorsement is meaningless.

However, from a political and practical viewpoint, pledged delegates will keep their pledge to vote for the candidate they were elected for until "released" by that candidate. By endorsing Obama, Edwards finally ended his campaign, which had been "suspended" up to now, and "released" his delegates to vote for the candidate of their choice. Of course, these delegates may decide to follow their original candidate and support Obama, and Edwards will of course be contacting them to urge them to support Obama. But until these delegates speak up and say who they will be supporting, they will essentially become uncommitted delegates. Which, essentially, makes them no different than superdelegates. (We'll keep them in the Edwards column for now).

So how many Edwards delegates are there? Four from New Hampshire, 8 from South Carolina, and 4 so far from Iowa. (The names are at the bottom of the post).

But wait. That's only 16. The DCW tracker shows Edwards with 19 delegates. Why the difference? It's because Edwards is projected by The Green Papers to get 3 state-wide delegates at the Iowa State Convention on June 14. But as we learned at the Iowa Congressional District Conventions in April, these delegate projections are only estimates. And it's difficult to see the Edwards forces holding together in June. (assuming the race is still going on then). So those final 3 delegates will likely get reassigned to other candidates, leaving Edwards with the 16 delegates described above.

But we're not done yet. Edwards also won 13 delegates in Florida, all at the CD level. (He won only 14.4% of the state-wide vote, so just fell short of getting any state-wide delegates - he would have picked up 9 or 10 delegates if he had hit 15%). Whether he keeps them depends on 1) whether the Florida delegates get seated at all, and 2) under what rules they get seated. That will have to wait for the RBC meeting at the end of the month.

[NightWatcher]

2. did you count the 4 Edwards delegates that just annouced?

I'm assuming he gets all of them.

If he gets 50% of the remaining primary delegates, he will only need 18.5 of the remaining supers to clinch.

I love this countdown

[grantcart]

4. can't count them till we see the names and make sure we aren't double counting them

If you get the link add it here thanks

[grantcart]

5. Here is the one that announced yesterday

PORTSMOUTH, N.H.—A New Hampshire Democratic Party delegate who had supported John Edwards says he will support Barack Obama, now that Edwards has endorsed his former political rival for the party's presidential nominee.
more stories like this

Joshua Denton of Portsmouth, 26, an Iraq war veteran, says he thinks that both Obama and Hillary Clinton would be a better president than Republican nominee John McCain. He thinks that Obama is the change the country needs, along with having the best chance of beating McCain in the general election.

[cliffordu]

3. Yawn. K&R

smartass.

[Aloha Spirit]

6. Hey there, I'm so confused.

It seems like the BO.com numbers haven't been updated... like, the Edwards NH delegate should be a pledged delegate for Obama, so that 24, and the switched pledged delegate from Maryland, not inlcuded.
Yuo can see on the results page that the NH and MD numbers are one less than at thegreenpapers

But somewhere, thegreenpapers is also missing delegates. They have total pledged at 1600.5, whereas BO.com has pledged delegates at 1602. I'm thinking that the MD/NH dels make the Pelosi # 23?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/MD-D.phtml

[grantcart]

29. Its hard to tell about Obama's number because we can't see the specifics

His number is lower than DCW but we can't see who they are counting.

[Buzz Clik]

7. What's Clinton's magic number?

[Aloha Spirit]

9. 308.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. X^n

for a certain value of not gonna happen.

[TheDoorbellRang]

8. DCW has added the New Hampshire PD to Obama's total

I'm not sure if Edwards' delegates will show up as anything but a number in the PD column. They now show his total PD's as 10 in NH (in TheGreenPapers) and the total PD's now at 1600.5, so per those sources he needs 136 to reach 2025. Still waiting for the NC delegates to show up there. :-)

Here is DCW's What Happens to Edwards Delegates info:

...However, from a political and practical viewpoint, pledged delegates will keep their pledge to vote for the candidate they were elected for until "released" by that candidate. By endorsing Obama, Edwards finally ended his campaign, which had been "suspended" up to now, and "released" his delegates to vote for the candidate of their choice. Of course, these delegates may decide to follow their original candidate and support Obama, and Edwards will of course be contacting them to urge them to support Obama. But until these delegates speak up and say who they will be supporting, they will essentially become uncommitted delegates. Which, essentially, makes them no different than superdelegates. (We'll keep them in the Edwards column for now)...

[Aloha Spirit]

15. BO.com is still higher at 1602 PD's.. discrepancies in DA, MD, NH, and TX

If you take the highest value for those primaries, then the PD total is 1604.

Edit, DCW uses thegreenpapers, so that's what I'm talking about.

Example:
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/TX-D.phtml

[Aloha Spirit]

18. With +6 from South Carolina, I'm calling it at 1610 right now. 17 to go.

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. Six of Edwards' eight S.C. delegates back Obama-

The head of John Edwards South Carolina presidential campaign told CNN that at least six of the eight delegates Edwards won in S.C. are ready to vote for U.S. Sen. Barack Obama at the Democratic presidential convention.

Columbia attorney John Moylan appeared on the cable news channel this morning.

Edwards endorsed the campaign of his former rival last night.

Edwards' delegates are free to vote for whichever candidate they choose, but delegate Robert Groce said he would choose Obama.

"I was elected to represent John Edwards. I will honor his request," said Groce, 40 and a Summerville resident. "I'm very comfortable that either one (Obama or U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton) could assume the office and do a good job. The party has really benefitted from having so many good candidates."

Edwards' S.C. delegates plan to release a statement later today.


http://thestatecom.typepad.com/ygatoday/2008/05/six-of-edwards.html

[ProSense]

11. CWA President, A Super-Delegate, Will Endorse Obama

CWA President, A Super-Delegate, Will Endorse Obama:

Larry Cohen, the president of the Communication Workers of America and a super-delegate from D.C., will endorse Obama today, CWA's communications office confirms to me.

[goclark]

13. So what is the number now for Obama?

[NotThisTime]

14. Wait so how many Supers Today? It's more than 5 I'd heard of?

I'd heard of 4 Edwards' Delegates and a Washington Rep., so a total of 5... is it more than that?

[WeDidIt]

16. 6 out of 8 Edwards delegates from South Carolina

have already endorsed Obama!

[NotThisTime]

17. is this official? Does this post include everything today?

So we have the six, the Washington Rep Jim McDermott, the CWA Superdelegate Larry Cohen from DC, plus the Steelworker's endorsement? Is that where we are so far today?

[WeDidIt]

21. + Waxman and Berman, too

More to come from what I'm hearing.

[NotThisTime]

26. So this is ten for today thus far? And the day is not over...

[NightWatcher]

19. he just got Waxman and Berman, woo hoo

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html

[ecstatic]

20. They said Clinton has netted 1.5 superdelegates since Tuesday. 1.5??

How does one net half a delegate? :shrug:

[Connie_Corleone]

22. delegate from Democrats Abroad are worth 1/2 a delegate.

[Buzz Clik]

23. Not to worry. 1.5 rounds up to 10.

[wileedog]

24. LOL

:rofl:

[NightWatcher]

25. here comes another one.....Larry Cohen (DC) DNC

5-15-08 - Added Rep. Jim McDermott (WA) for Obama
-Added Rep. Howard Berman (CA) for Obama
-Added Rep. Henry Waxman (CA) for Obama
- Added DNC Larry Cohen (DC) for Obama

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html

[Scurrilous]

27. K & R

:thumbsup:

[WA98296]

28. C'mon edit the thread title...now, it's 130.5!

[grantcart]

30. They are now showing 130.5

[grantcart]

31. Rep Waxman (CA) for Obama

CHICAGO, IL—Congressman Henry Waxman and Congressman Howard Berman, major committee chairmen and California superdelegates, endorsed Barack Obama today, citing his ability to unite the country and put and end to eight years of failed Bush policies. Congressman Waxman chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform; Congressman Berman chairs the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. Both are respected leaders in the American Jewish community and major voices in Democratic policymaking.

[grantcart]

32. Rep Berman (CA) for Obama

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[MindMatter]

38. If I did donate in a moment of weakness

could I disown the donation or do I have to repudiate the DU altogether?

Just curious.

[grantcart]

34. DNC Cohen (DC) for Obama

DNC member Larry Cohen a DC superdelegate has endorsed Obama.

[grantcart]

35. SC Edwards Delegates to endorse Obama

http://www.thestate.com/breaking/story/406003.html



COLUMBIA, S.C. --
Three of former Sen. John Edwards' delegates to the Democratic convention say they're endorsing Barack Obama.

Edwards' South Carolina campaign chairman John Moylan said Thursday that three others have told him they'd do so.

The movement to support Obama comes a day after the former North Carolina senator publicly endorsed Obama.

Moylan said it's time for Democrats to unify behind a candidate.

[grantcart]

36. Obama now states 129.5 is the magic number

Communications Workers of America President, DNC member, and superdelegate Larry Cohen, is throwing his support behind Senator Obama. Here's CWA President Cohen's statement...

[bigbrother05]

39. Thanks Grantcart

:hi:

[Aloha Spirit]

40. This is a Florida Edwards SD, but I'll include it for kicks

Linda Spisak, the only delegate in Southeast Florida pledged to John Edwards, said the endorsement last night of Barack Obama convinced her to support the Illinois senator at the national convention this summer.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2008/05/15/edwards_delegate_to_support_ob.html

[grantcart]

41. Intrade to win nomination McCain 95 Obama 92

[Aloha Spirit]

42. Is this new? Democrat Abroad Toby Condliffe.

Published today:
http://www.insidetoronto.ca/News/Centre/article/47950

The Moore Park resident, who came to Canada 34 years ago when he married a Canadian, is backing Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination, opting to support the Illinois Senator for a variety of reasons, not least of which is the sense of excitement that surrounds Obama's campaign.

[grantcart]

43. no he is a long time supporter of Obama

[Aloha Spirit]

44. heh,, oops ;-)

[grantcart]

45. That is why DCW is so important if yo don't have a list every endorsement seems like a new one

[grantcart]

46. Obama's website is now at 128.5 for nomination and 24 for Pelosi

[Yukari Yakumo]

47. I hope he crosses the 2025 line before the 30th.

That way, HRH HRC will have to end her threats of a nuclear option or else risk being made a pariah within the party. If there's one thing I've learned...

We never forgive, we never forget.

(Just ask Nader.)

[grantcart]

48. there is no nuclear option she doesn't have sway on the rules committee

she doesn't have her supporters on the rules committee there are people on the committee who are long term party members who happen to support her.

Tomorrow we should know if they have enough delegates backed up to finish it on Tuesday. As soon as they hit 10 delegates today they stopped.