Hillary camp spreading rumors?

[medeak]

Can't find anything to back this up...anyone know about this email I received from NARAL today?

The Clinton camp has been spreading the false rumor that Obama is
> against women making their own choices.

[Writer]

1. $100 says that NARAL was lied to.

A whisper campaign par excellence.

[medeak]

2. friend told me it started in Jan?

just can't find anything?

[Writer]

3. I don't think the Clinton camp did that.

That's what I think.

I think rumor and innuendo has been the great shadow influence in this primary.

[ShortnFiery]

4. LIES! eom

[sui generis]

5. oh yes and the Clinton Camp also said that

raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ...

Seriously. Obama only has two testicles, below his waist. Shhh. Don't tell anyone. By the way, what exactly IS Obama's stance on abortion, child custody and equal pay? I honestly don't know. If his stance on any of those is to support state's rights, like he proposes with marriage equality, then IF there were such a rumor, I'd be more likely to believe it.

Fortunately, legislative stances should have little to do either way with rumours.

:rofl:

[Writer]

10. Actually this would be rumors about rumors.

Someone's posing as a victim to party leaders and delegates, and it's not Clinton.

[cali]

18. Obama has a 100% rating from NARAL. He fully supports

a woman's right to choose. And unlike HIlly he proposes to fully repeal DOMA. Her position on marriage is otherwise exactly like his.

[flpoljunkie]

21. Debbie Wassserman Schultz was on MSNBC saying there was "daylight between their positions" on choice

which is totally untrue--the same old crap about the times he was asked to vote present by Planned Parenthood of Chicago. Not surprised Wasserman is trying to point out differences where none exist.

Wasserman was also on Larry King last night with John King filling in and again used the Hillary Camp new "magic number" of 2209. It seems as if they are signaling they are going to try to take this to the convention--but their chances are dwindling for it to be close enough to try and sell this meme to the American public. We will have a nominee soon after June 3rd--as apparently Hillary camp does have the money to compete in the few remaining primaries.

[SoonerPride]

22. If you don't know, you could always learn.

Try reading here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

An infomed voter is an asset to our democracy. An uninfomed voter is easily manipulated.

[sui generis]

26. I am informed on my single issue

which has nothing to do with women's rights or anything else in that rumor. I do agree with you though, the worst kind of voter is an un- or under-informed voter. However, my information about my "single" issue and taking a hard line principled stand means that I can't vote to support Barack or Hillary until they clarify the public record.

I won't give you a link to read. My issue is that my marriage is as equal as anyone else's, and I will call my "partner" a spouse, just like anyone else, regardless of whether or not either candidate agrees that it is proper to do so. Neither candidate does, and that is of record.

Just as in business, where there is no such thing as a "B" (it's A or Fail), in marriage there is no second best. I cannot accept the "second best" of a different moniker and a different schedule of rights for my family than you do for yours; it is a failure of political and moral leadership to differentiate.

but in re the OP: I think we agree in principle on any candidate. It is best to stick to the facts as we know them and as their public stances have made known, and to ignore rumors altogether. If someone told me a rumor that Barack secretly supports real marriage equality I would have to consider only his public stance on the issue.

[AllentownJake]

6. January

in NH they questioned his pro-choice voting record over the 7 present votes. This was back during presentgate.

[mod mom]

7. someone posted yesterday that Taylor Marsh was behind the outrage but I haven't heard more.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. i heard that too.

of course, Bill will repeat it AFTER she repudiates the rumor.

[Orangepeel]

8. They could be talking about Clinton's New Hampshire mail piece

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/hillary_mailer_hits_obama_on_abortion.php

[medeak]

13. wth? thanks! n/t

[Orangepeel]

16. You're welcome. I should point out, of course, that that the Clinton mailer was misleading

Obama's "present" votes were consistent with Planned Parenthood's strategy to counteract anti-choice bills.

http://ppaurora.blogspot.com/2008/02/setting-record-straight-illinois-nows.html

[sandnsea]

20. NOW did it too, on Super Tuesday

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402980.html

It's shocking to me that any Clinton supporter would deny it. I thought everybody knew about this. This is just one of so many dishonest campaign tactics that her and her supporters have engaged in, and they wonder why Obama's supporters want her as far away from the Dems as we can get her.

[Cha]

9. roseanne barr lied about that when she

endorsed hilary(saying Obama voted against women's choice)..a bunch a lyin' women supporting a lyin' woman.

And yet Obama is the nominee and they will vote their rights away by voting for mccain..so not only are they liars.. they're stupid liars.

[sandnsea]

23. I think she just believed the propaganda

Some people just don't understand that Democrats can, and do, lie. Others have a hard time believing a woman would lie. Roseanne has been such a champion for women, I imagine it's very hard for her to believe anything bad about Hillary. I don't think she would ever intentionally lie, but she has sure been wrong about a lot of things over the years.

[Texas Hill Country]

11. holy shit... you actually recieved an email from NARAL saying that?

[medeak]

14. here is complete email

I've been hearing that a lot of pro-choice voters are being fooled
> by John McCain, and have no idea he's really anti-choice - and I
> want to make sure you're not one of them.
>
> The Clinton camp has been spreading the false rumor that Obama is
> against women making their own choices.
>
> Sen. Barack Obama is the pro-choice candidate to win the White
> House in November. He's voted against Bush's anti-choice Supreme
> Court nominees, cosponsored legislation to fix the birth control
> pricing crisis, and said that women's ability to control their
> reproductive lives is "not just an issue of choice, but equality
> and opportunity for all women." Those are some pretty inspiring words!
>
> I hope you take a moment to learn more about Sen. Obama through
> NARAL Pro-Choice America's website,
> http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/. NARAL Pro-Choice
> America has vote histories on both Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain,
> neat videos, and buttons for your Facebook page.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paid for by NARAL Pro-Choice America, www.ProChoiceAmerica.org
> <http://www.ProChoiceAmerica.org>, and not authorized by any
> candidate or candidate's committee.

[Texas Hill Country]

27. that is so fucked up... and people bitch about the womens voices letters....

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. Which is, of course, why NARAL endorsed him yesterday.

Because they really don't like him.

[joneschick]

17. NARAL in some states is working to maintain neutrality

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/15/naral_affiliates_question_obam.html

[Renew Deal]

19. Hillary's camp has been spreading false rumors about Obama for a year.

What's the latest?

[2rth2pwr]

24. More like you spreading rumors about Hillary.

[cali]

25. this isn't from the OP. it comes straight from NARAL.