Leave Hillary Be. It's Clear She's Not Going To The Convention.

[slinkerwink]

The recent remarks by Senator Clinton on which she defended Obama on the Hamas remark, and said that she would see where the race is on June 4, the day after the last primary, shows that Clinton is not attacking Obama anymore. She is still a Democrat, given her recent actions, and she's going to go out on her own terms, so let her finish the race on her own.

Even her 527, the American Leadership Project, isn't attacking Obama in their Oregon ad. They all know Obama is going to be the nominee.

So, with that said, let Senator Clinton be in finishing this race on her own terms.

[bowens43]

1. She's going but not as a candidate

[slinkerwink]

2. I don't know if she can stand to be there. It might be too painful for her.

[mac2]

9. She is a Democratic Senator and has earned the right to be

at the Convention. Her state is one of the largest in the country. Get real.

[slinkerwink]

15. I know, but I'm talking about her emotional pain. It would be understandable

if she didn't go.

[PoliticalAmazon]

21. I don't think there is a way in the world to keep her away....

It is an opportunity to build support, etc., and Hillary won't stay home.

[mac2]

35. Or any other serving Senator.

[Radio_Lady]

64. You might be advised to rephrase your OP. I can't imagine her not being there in the flesh.

To what do you attribute that position? Is that a fleeting wish?

Cordially,

Radio Lady

[slinkerwink]

74. I think that I personally, if my lifelong dream didn't come true, would find it

very hard to watch someone receive the nomination at the DNC convention.

[PoliticalAmazon]

76. I'm dreading the convention. As divisive as Hillary has been....

...and as vindictive as she usually is, I can see her showing up with vengenance in her heart.

[slinkerwink]

78. I don't think she would do that because what matters to her is her legacy.

I think she wants to be remembered positively, not negatively, and that's why she's backpedaling on her attacks.

[PoliticalAmazon]

79. I don't think Hillary's legacy has been her concern to date....

and it would be very unlike her to give in gracefully and forego retribution and revenge.

But one can aways hope (and pack the Kevlar).

[flpoljunkie]

40. Then why did she say this to Wolf Blitzer yesterday...

"People have gone to conventions and fought out nominations with far fewer delegates," she told CNN.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/Story?id=3105288&page=2

[leftynyc]

42. That was simply a dig

at Senator Kennedy - she's reminding people of what he did in 1980 against an incumbent Democratic president.

[dorktv]

85. Because it is true. Hell Wilson had even less then half of the front runner

going into the 1912 Convention.

[MonkeyFunk]

55. Don't be silly

You guys would love to think she'll be curled up in a ball, crying, but that's just not the case.

She's strong.

[ima_sinnic]

3. it's all fake. she's just "being nice" because she saw that being nasty was backfiring.

don't worry, she will still find ways to undermine Obama, just as she did Kerry in 2004. IF she personally is not making nasty remarks or innuendos, she will see to it that "nameless supporters" or, even worse, so-called "former Obama supporters" (like that piece of shit who started the "bitter" bullshit by tpe recording a private fundraiser) do. She will find a way to load up the repukes with all kind of "ammo" (she thinks!) against Obama while acting all innocent and "nice." With Hillary, it's All About Hillary, 24/7. She does nothing with a pure motive of generosity or selflessness--NOTHING. So she can kiss my ass. She needs to just Go Away. She is last millennium.

[still_one]

14. As an Obama supporter I find your insights quite counter-productive

The Primaries are over. We won.

Do you think it is really a good thing to trash the other Democratic supporter's candidate?

During this campaign I have been as upset as you regarding the tactics used by the Clinton campaign, and I don't like the unecessary elongation of the primaries, but it is over

Let it go, or we will hurt ourseleves from here on out

It doesn't matter what anyones motives are at this stage as long as we win

[JuniperLea]

19. You are so very wise! I love this post!

I never supported either candidate... and I've always intended on voting for whomever wins the nomination. It is very clear that Obama is that person.

All that said, I've been called both a Hillbot and and Obamaniac... a few times in response to one post.

I'm really tired of all the hating. I'm so happy to see others call for a truce. The time has long since passed... we're late... we need to come together now before we alienate too many much needed votes for Obama in the GE!

[still_one]

28. I am on the same page as you. This has been a very hard road for BOTH candidates

and their supporters

[CaptJasHook]

23. Thank you for your message

It is time for us all to Unite to win in November.

We need as many clear voices as yours on GD/P as possible in the next two weeks.

[still_one]

29. I think/hope we are moving in that direction

I can sure understand the frustration of both sides

[Cha]

27. As an Obama supporter I find your insights Dead On..

I've known this woman's tactics since October 10, 2002 when she voted for the IWR without reading the 90 page NIE to send our soldiers off to the bushit War On Iraq as political expediency for her presidential run in 2008. She Blood on her hands and an Agenda she won't let her stop undermining Obama.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

56. Oliphant hits a homer.

[Radio_Lady]

65. Oliphant has just lost my readership. I find this work odious and unproductive.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen

[Radio_Lady]

66. P.S. Just wait until the real push to the GE. Cartoonists like to do this sort of thing...

and they may be coming for OTHER candidates -- including YOURS -- before the election on November 4, 2008.

You don't think they will? Hahahahahahahahahah.....

:hi:

Radio Lady

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

68. One of the most talented political cartoonists?

Does that make it better?

[Radio_Lady]

70. I hadn't seen that one, but that's the sort of thing I am referring to...

I used to see more political cartoons when I lived in Boston and read the Boston Globe and the New York Times... I rarely notice them anymore.

[Cha]

72. I find your work odious and full of lies..

Oliphant nails your little shit, hilary.

[rodeodance]

83. More childish name-calling!!

.....
Oliphant nails your little shit, hilary.

[Lady-Damai]

4. Why do ppl have to do what Hillary wants?

I can't fucking stand her anymore.

[cali]

5. I agree with you. She's earned the right to choose when and how

to withdraw, and it's clear that's what she'll do, be it next week or after the primaries have ended.

[slinkerwink]

18. I think it may be June 4th, and that'd be alright with me.

[cali]

22. Me too, though I suspect it might be earlier.

If Obama reaches 2025 in May, I think that's when she'll bow out.

[slinkerwink]

25. we'll see

[redqueen]

32. What about all the talk about the May 31st meeting? MI and FL?

Do you think that's just bluffing or what?

[slinkerwink]

36. I think they'll give it one last hurrah, but it won't work

[Radio_Lady]

They're meeting for my birthday, May 31, 2008... and buying me a cake.

:sarcasm:

The Democratic hearing on the subject is supposed to be televised -- at least that's what I heard yesterday.

:popcorn:

[slinkerwink]

77. I do think that MI and FL will be seated before then, perhaps

[Radio_Lady]

82. Does that mean I won't get my birthday cake? [[smiles]]

[mac2]

6. I have never lived through such a crap primary.

No one is allowed to win but Obama eh? This is democracy and freedom?

[ima_sinnic]

30. hate to break it to you, but, yes, only one is "allowed" to win, and it wasn't Hillary

I really don't understand your bitterness. She started out with a ton of money, the Clinton name, a well-oiled machine, and even a complicit and obseesive media that gave her much more exposure than any of the others. But she lost. That's what happens in political campaigns. People lose, and one person wins.

[SoCalDem]

7. She needs to apologize to him and to us..in public

and to own up to the race-baiting..
unless and until she does that, her reputation is forever shit!

[mac2]

10. For what?

[slinkerwink]

16. just let it go. We've already won. They know it.

[CaptJasHook]

26. Perhaps, she is showing her apology right now.

I have found myself incredibly angry at the Hillary campaign over the few months. Just as many Hillary supporters have been angry.

But now is the time to come back together.

What Hillary gave to Obama in the primary is less harsh than what we can expect throughout the summer and fall.

We are all going to be needed in November to overcome the possibility of evote fraud.

[leftynyc]

46. I'm sure she's heartbroken

And as far as a public apology, you're really delusional. If you're expecting her to skulk off in disgrace, prepare to be bitterly disappointed.

[Cha]

49. That will never happen..hilary is not

capable of apologizing..and I'll believe she's contrite when there's been enough proof. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice Shame on me.

[BenDavid]

8. Unless Obama gets much stronger on his own,he'll need HRC more

than ever in November. That's the only ticket that makes sense now.

If our goal is to win in November then why not HRC, and vice versa.

[mac2]

12. Even if Obama wins the primary he didn't have a majority

of even Democrats supporting him. How will he defeat McCain without all the party behind him?

[cali]

20. The same way Hillary would have won if she were the nominee.

by uniting the party and attracting independents. Why do you think it would be any harder for him to do than her?

[TahitiNut]

47. "Inevitable Hillary, Part II"?

Sorry. No sale.

[Catherina]

11. I caught part of that talk while I was fading in and out to sleep

That was the impression I got too.

She looked very beautiful, poised and relaxed when she said it, as if she's resigned herself to the fact that it's over and dealing with it like an adult. I remember thinking "Why didn't you act with this much poise and grace during the entire campaign?" It made me sad. I loathe her politics but there's alot about her to respect.

Is that interview online? I'd like to rewatch it.

[slinkerwink]

17. I think it is. I don't have the link though. I had that same impression as well.

[mmonk]

13. I have no plans to attack her.

[WA98070]

24. Wait ten minutes and you will find her or a surrogate on the attack again.

[ima_sinnic]

34. watch out--we are now not allowed to say anything unkind about poor widdle Hillary

above, I got chewed out for not getting with the "unity" program. Now, we have to treat her with kid gloves because she has now found it expedient to "be nice."

whatever.

[Bake]

57. Fortunately, your candidate is more graceful (and intelligent) than you are.

At least he has a chance to unite what's left of the party. Apparently if you had your way, anyone who opposed Obama would be taken out and summarily shot.

Bake

[ima_sinnic]

71. because I say (basically) that Hillary is a poseur, a fake, & not to be trusted?

How did you get from there to "anyone who opposed Obama would be taken out and summarily shot"? Are Hillary supporters now bearing her cross of martyrdom? Anything negative about Hillary is an attack on her supporters?

No, the thought of shooting them didn't really cross my mind. Only relief that their weird desire to maintain the war-mongering, backroom-dirty-dealing, corporate ass-kissing status quo, the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty of politics as usual, will not be fulfilled.

[BlooInBloo]

31. I'll be done when she's done. Not a second before.

[JuniperLea]

37. What does that accomplish, Bloo?

I honestly don't get it, and no one seems to be able to explain it to me.

She is done. Cooked. Toast. If you feel her going on only makes her look foolish, then how are we to view DUers who keep going on too? Since when do two wrongs make a right?

I just don't get it. I don't get how this is helping anything. Quite the contrary. I think it's hurting Obama. We need every single vote we can gather to get him elected in the GE. Pissing off Clinton's supporters isn't going to do that, but the opposite.

[BlooInBloo]

39. I seriously doubt anything I could do would un-piss them...

Even if they had valid reason to BE pissed.

By contrast, letting up before the clock expires can cost you the game. Ask the Buffalo Bills.

[JuniperLea]

43. You think she has a chance? Really?

I don't. Not a snowball's.

You have no control over getting them un-pissed, that's a fact. But you do have control over throwing more TNT on the fire. That's all I'm saying. What does that help? It's not going to prevent Hillary from being elected president, there's no further chance of that.

[BlooInBloo]

45. As long as the clock's still got time on it.

[JuniperLea]

52. I don't get it

Guess I never will.

I find grudges cumbersome and unattractive, but if you get some pleasure from it... carry on I guess.

[BlooInBloo]

53. No grudge. When it's over, I move on grudgelessly. Just not until then.

[dorktv]

86. Somehow, I really doubt it.

[Bake]

59. So you being an asshole to HRC supporters is helping Obama clinch the nom?

Wow. It must be great to have that kind of power.

Because all you've done up to this point is piss off people. But you go right ahead. You're doing your candidate such a great service ...

:sarcasm:

Bake

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[JVS]

38. Someone who is still fighting shouldn't be left unattended.

[cui bono]

41. Yes, let her be. Her rabid supporters on the other hand....

:evilgrin:

;)

[rudy23]

44. She's still hammering away on Howard Dean with this "sexist" bit.

Can't just leave her be on that front. She's not done scorching the earth and finding power to grab onto to break her fall.

[slinkerwink]

48. that's not her---those are her supporters.

[madfloridian]

50. It does not matter at this point, slinker. It is just as destructive as if it were her.

She could stop a lot of this crap with just a few words.

It is destructive.

When her group is blaming the chairman for sexism in one breath and then asking him to seat FL and MI in the next....it hurts us all.

[slinkerwink]

51. just let themselves flame themselves out. They're working through their anger.

[madfloridian]

54. I don't think so.

Remember I live in the middle of this stuff. It ain't over. The media is fanning the flames here so badly with the help of Florida Democratic leaders that the anger is getting worse.

[rudy23]

58. She's going to try and pin Dem unity problems on Dean--

the problems that SHE worked so hard to cause in an attempt to splinter the party.

Then we'll get a week straight of CNN talking about how Dean's gotta go because he created a permanent rift in the Democratic party.

[Bake]

60. Then MAYBE Dean needs to show a little leadership

and come up with a SOLUTION.

Bake

[madfloridian]

73. He IS the one showing unity and leadership...

while her campaign is ripping the party apart.

[Cha]

75. Thanks mad, for dealing in reality..

It's all fine and good to make peace with hilary if she and her fux loving surrogates meet 1/2 way but no kissing butt and rolling over while they're still intent on destroying everything in their faux feminist path.

[Bake]

88. Leadership? How? He hasn't done a damn thing.

The Florida voters are still getting angrier and angrier, and he does NOTHING.

He needs to come up with a solution that at minimum pacifies Florida. Instead, he's just standing on the decision from months ago. You can call that leadership; I call it foolish.

Bake

[rodeodance]

84. The stalling only benefits his pick -Obama. Don't expect him to show leadership.

[Bake]

89. It benefits Obama, IN THE SHORT RUN, at the expense of the Party in the fall.

Obamites seem to think that getting the nomination is all that matters; that the GE will be a slam dunk after that.

I have two words for them: Michael Dukakis.

Bake

[Bread and Circus]

61. All I'm asking for is for her to be reasonable. I will gladly donate to help pay off the debt when

this is said and done.

[butterfly77]

62. Now someone needs to tell ...

Geraldine Ferraro to shut up!

[charlie]

63. Is it clear?

She's run one of the most impulsive, reactive campaigns I've ever seen. Who's to say next month's Hillary will be the same Hillary you're seeing today? I wouldn't trust it's over until after she concedes and leaves the media spotlight for a while.

[AtomicKitten]

67. While nasty HRC surrogate Geraldine Ferraro trashes Obama on Faux News today.

I'll believe this civilized ending to this protracted pointless nomination struggle when I see it. If Obama is too quick to let his guard down, she'll shiv him in the back for sure.

[DevonRex]

69. I'd be happy to leave her be. As it is, I'll leave her be until she or

Bill attack Obama. When and if they do, I won't leave her be anymore.

[Orsino]

80. No candidate should be "let be."

She can exit anytime the pressure from DU becomes too intense. :D

[Rene]

81. I want Clinton to fight on and take this right to the Convention floor.

obama is too slick....too shallow....too preacher-ish. I can't stand to watch/listen to his preaching, telling me what to do/what to think. I never even heard of the man 12 months ago...and he has the audacity to expect the Presidential office....with little to no resume/worthwhile background. what an absolute turnoff. I wouldn't cast a vote for him with a 10 foot pole.

[Beacool]

87. Ditto, but be prepared to be bashed!!!

:hi: